How to steal a body-scan picture

[n2doc]

John Roach writes:In an effort to reassure skittish fliers, the Transportation Security Administration says its body-scan images "cannot" be stored, transmitted, or printed -- unlike the tens of thousands of images that were stored in a machine operated by the U.S. Marshals Service. But just how ironclad can that kind of denial ever be?

The TSA acknowledges that this sort of thing is possible when the machines are in test mode. What's more, there's no magic technology that would keep a truly dedicated (and twisted) screener from smuggling out a cell phone picture of a screen shot showing you in and all your glory passing through airport security.

Instead, the TSA relies on a policy that bans cell phones and cameras in the screening area. "Our officers adhere to the highest professional standards, so we are confident our policy is followed," Lauren Gaches, a TSA spokeswoman, told me.

These reassurances fail to appease privacy rights advocates. Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, told me this a "double standard."

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[madinmaryland]

1. So when Ron Jeremy passes through the body scanner, no one will be

checking it out and recording it.

Yeap.

[hughee99]

10. It seems to me you can find those pictures online already.

It's not like it's hard to find naked pictures of "the Hedgehog".

[CLANG]

14. Here's one:

[Gold Metal Flake]

12. So when Emma Watson passes through the body scanner, no one will be

checking it out and recording it.


I fixed your post.

[madinmaryland]

15. Nice post, Emma...

Who is Emma Watson?

[tblue37]

23. Hermione Granger in the Harry Potter movies. nt

[madinmaryland]

29. Who is Hermione Granger. The owner of Granger Electrical Supplies??

:shrug:

[tblue37]

31. I asume you know who Harry Potter is--the young wizard in the famous books.

Hermione Granger is a young witch, one of his two best friends.

The Harry Potter books and films are part of popular culture now. Even those who don't read the books or see the movies normally hear about such things unless they are hermits.

I never watch spectator sports, but I knew who Michael Jordan was back in the day, and I know who a number of other famous sports figures are. Not that it matters to me in the least, since I have no inetrest in professional sports, but when general conversation references generally known things, it is nice to at least have an idea of who or what is being referenced.

[madinmaryland]

34. Yes, I know who Harry Potter is. Sadly, though, there are a lot of trivia things

which I am not aware of nor have the time to learn. Just as you knew Michael Jordan back in the day, there were supporting players on his team that you would probably not know nor really care about, since you don't watch it. Same thing.

:shrug:

[Rebubula]

39. LOLZ

I love it when people get all obtuse in order to show that they are 'above the base cultural references'!!

Obviously, you could have Googled this question but you wanted to appear cool and progressive. Good Job.

[Segami]

16. All those politicians who voted in favor of implementing these X-ray machines should definitely

be scanned each and every time they pass through airport boarding gates. I trust this X-ray security scan extends to them also, is that a correct assumption?

[Taitertots]

32. She is rich, I doubt they make her go through the lines n/t

[Gold Metal Flake]

33. Fine. How about any number of 14-16 year old boys and girls.

Name a neighbor of yours. Someone you might care about. Face what is happening instead of trying to excuse it away.

[Taitertots]

36. I'm not excusing it away

It is more about how these laws don't apply to the rich and/or powerful. We got through with our children and get sexually assaulted while anyone with money gets a free pass.

[Gold Metal Flake]

40. Yes, a fine way to hijack the point.

Hint: We already know it's happening to us. We want it to stop.

[Love Bug]

37. True, that.

If I were a celebrity still flying commercial, I wouldn't be happy about the possibility of my TSA scan showing up in some tabloid.

[Rebubula]

42. Who??

Who is Ron Jeremy???



Just busting your chops for making references like this and then getting all 'who is Emma Watson' downthread.

[Ian David]

2. Look at this image I found...

Apparently, it *is* catching some unsavory elements.

[demmiblue]

4. Lol... good one!

:rofl:

[Segami]

11. HAHAHAHA. Excellant! n/t

[MineralMan]

3. Why on Earth would anyone WANT to steal one of those images?

Occam's razor applies here, I think. Given the accessibility of naked photos of just about everyone who's famous and thousands of people who are very nice to look at naked, why would anyone care about a dim, fuzzy image of some random person? Think about it. Hell, I'll give someone $50 to post a naked photo of me on the internet. Nobody would ever look at it, but I'd be freaking immortal, innit?

[CreekDog]

8. why would they gawk at fully clothed women in their midst

when they can see more on their computers at home?

i don't know --but the point is that they do.

not surprised you are discounting this.

[MineralMan]

20. Not surprised, are you?

OK. I stand by my point. Your opinion of me is irrelevant to this discussion.

[CreekDog]

28. it's not an opinion of you, it's just that you don't seem to be troubled by much

so why would an invasive search bother you?

:shrug:

[LisaL]

9. Maybe not of regular folks.

But if it's a famous person or someone with some unusual body characteristics I sure wouldn't be surprised someone would be willing to store these images.

[Shallah Kali]

13. some people get kicks from unwilliing participants

was it a year or two ago a man got arrested for filming women up their skirts with a camera in the toe of his shoe.

[Segami]

21. Voyeurism has many face fronts and tentacles.

VOYEURISM


" Voyeurism is a psychosexual disorder in which a person derives sexual pleasure and gratification from looking at the naked bodies and genital organs or observing the sexual acts of others. The voyeur is usually hidden from view of others. Voyeurism is a form of paraphilia.

A variant form of voyeurism involves listening to erotic conversations. This is commonly referred to as telephone sex, although it is usually considered voyeurism primarily in the instance of listening to unsuspecting persons.

Description

The object of voyeurism is to observe unsuspecting individuals who are naked, in the process of undressing or engaging in sexual acts. The person being observed is usually a stranger to the observer. The act of looking or peeping is undertaken for the purpose of achieving sexual excitement. The observer generally does not seek to have sexual contact or activity with the person being observed.


If orgasm is sought, it is usually achieved through masturbation. This may occur during the act of observation or later, relying on the memory of the act that was observed.

Frequently, a voyeur may have a fantasy of engaging in sexual activity with the person being observed. In reality, this fantasy is rarely consummated.


A number of states have statutes that render voyeurism a crime. Such statutes vary widely regarding definitions of voyeurism. Most states specifically prohibit anyone from photographing or videotaping another person, without consent, while observing that person in the privacy of his home or some other private place.


Causes and symptoms


Causes

There is no scientific consensus concerning the basis for voyeurism. Most experts attribute the behavior to an initially random or accidental observation of an unsuspecting person who is naked, in the process of disrobing, or engaging in sexual activity. Successive repetitions of the act tend to reinforce and perpetuate the voyeuristic behavior.


Symptoms


The act of voyeurism is the observation of an unsuspecting person who is naked, in the process of disrobing, or engaging in sexual activity that provides sexual arousal. To be clinically diagnosed, the symptoms must include the following elements:

recurrent, intense or sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors

fantasies, urges, or behaviors that cause significant distress to an individual or are disruptive of his or her everyday functioning.


Demographics

Voyeurism is apparently more common in men, but does occasionally occur in women. However, the prevalence of voyeurism is not known.

Contemporary U.S. society is increasingly voyeuristic (as in the example of "real" television); however diagnosis is made only when this is a preferred or exclusive means of sexual gratification.

The onset of voyeuristic activity is usually prior to the age of 15 years. There are no reliable statistics pertaining to the incidence of voyeurism in adulthood.

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<http://www.minddisorders.com/Py-Z/Voyeurism.html>

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[WinkyDink]

17. For the frisson of it.

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[Missy Vixen]

5. It's a matter of time before celebrity photos hit the Net

The TSA will be happy to write the check for that lawsuit, right? Do passengers have the ability to sue if their privacy is violated?

Of course we don't, do we?

:eyes:

[LostInAnomie]

6. I personally don't give a shit about the body scanners...

... but I don't buy that it's hard to steal an image from them at all. Camera phones are too prevalent, and there has to be some sort of recording or documentation if they are going to use them as a means of security or even prosecution.

[Occulus]

And if the radiation shielding is faulty? n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Here is a fly in the ointment

Lets assume for a moment that I am a bad element... and try to sneak something in... and the machine finds it. Ok kids, that scan is evidence, so you are telling me that it is TSA screener against my word?

Or they have a way to keep the scan the can for evidence?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

18. they don't have to keep the scan

they just pull you for 'additional' screening...if they confirm the find there is no need for a scan.

does this mean they can't or won't keep them??? oh hell no...

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Think of rules of evidence though

[MineralMan]

19. I imagine that if they find something, there will be a real search

of that person, and that will be recorded. The evidence will be seen. I'm sure the TSA person who saw the thing in the scan will be an expert witness that it was seen, and the reality of it following the actual search will be more than enough.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. again think of rules of evidence

that scan is part of the chain of evidence.

So if they are telling they don't record them... bullocks... and an earlier gen of this gear that did not, just had 100 of them released... they were not s'posed to save them either.

[MineralMan]

26. The scan would be probable cause for the ensuing search.

The evidence discovered in the search would be adequate, and probable cause can be established through the testimony of the operator who saw the suspicious item. No problem with the rules of evidence. Cops do it all the time. "Reasonable suspicion" is probable cause. Simple.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. And if you believe them that they have no capacity to save them

or in fact are saving them. I got some lovely ocean front property in Arizona.

[CreekDog]

30. then why the heck should we go through the scanner?

if they see something they want to check, they are just going to check me with a patdown.

forget that. :wtf:

i'm no threat...i'm going through security with the least amount of inspection that will get me through and the prospect of a body scan and a patdown sounds like more than i have to subject myself to in order to fly.

i'll tolerate the patdown within the asinine levels i have to in order to fly but i'm not going to go through both.

[LisaL]

38. My feelings exactly.

You can still be patted down even after going through the scanner, no explanation necessary.
I've decided I am going to opt out from the start.

[MadHound]

35. I've worked with similar scanning machines,

Designed for package inspection, not people inspection, but the basics are the same. Each one of these machines has an onboard computer. Like all computer controlled equipment, it will have at least one way of hooking up to another device in order to perform diagnoses, upload upgrades, and download information. Anybody who is halfway clever with a laptop or smartphone, or even just a large capacity USB device, could hook into one of these machines and download images in real time. It isn't hard, in fact for both security and logistical reasons, it has been made fairly easy. All that is really needed is the access code and voila, you can download gigabytes of images, cap your USB device at the end of a shift and walk off with eight hours of naked scans.

[Vickers]

41. "Our officers adhere to the highest professional standards"

:rofl:

I can't believe I'm the first person to point this out!

:rofl: