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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:39 PM
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Curtis Got Slapped: Mother claims teacher slapped son, writes 40 crazed pages of demands
When a child named Curtis Bowen was slapped by his teacher at Martin Luther King Jr., Elementary School, no one really heard about it. Except for President Obama, Vice President Biden, their wives, three senators, and more than 20 other officials.

They all were CC'ed on the whopping 40-page letter that Curtis' mother, Lisa Henry Bowen, sent to school district superintendent John Covington. In it, Bowen makes mind-boggling demands for reparations. One recipient called the letter "one of the craziest things I've ever seen" and leaked it to the Internet. And Lisa Henry Bowen even created her own web site for the occasion: www.CurtisGotSlapped.com.

Lisa Henry Bowen, who copyrights her name and her son's name throughout the letter, kicks it off by identifying herself as the "intellectual property owner" of fourth grader Curtis Bowen (C). She alleges that Curtis was caught horse playing and was slapped by a teacher named Ms. Curry. Lisa Henry tried to report the teacher to social services for child abuse, but was denied as Curtis' skin wasn't broken.

That sent Lisa Henry into a spiral of outrage. She calls Ms. Curry "one audacious white bitch with 'balls'", and then conducts some informal gonad comparisons. "I happen to have some big 'balls' too. And I ain't afraid to use them." (All emphasis hers, throughout.)

more . . . http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/11/curtis_got_slapped.php


Some of her demands:

A trip to Disneyworld for Curtis and his classmates

A personal audience with President Obama

$13,500 worth of WalMart gift cards

A job ("Independent consulting contract position with the Kansas City Missouri School district, for the next nine years. My consulting fee begins at $15,000 per month, minimum 6 months contract.")


I am in no way condoning what this teacher did. But this list of demands is coming from a parent who obviously has a few 'issues'.

This is one of the most bizarre things I have seen in a long time.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:42 PM
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1. King?
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 09:50 PM by HuckleB
:shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:16 PM
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27. Huh?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:44 AM
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61. KING... CURTIS...
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:43 PM
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2. ....


She is the "intellectual property owner" of her son, who she puts the copyright symbol next to?

Da fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.....
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:43 PM
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3. I've been subbing at the local schools for the past two months
now, and I've been pushed and hit by students and had things thrown at me by kids as young as elementary. Yet the parents not only didn't care, they couldn't be bothered and the kids had an "entitlement" mentality. Wonder how long I'd last if I wrote a forty-page list of crazy demands like that?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:51 PM
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10. I was wondering when anyone who'd ever been slapped at school,
teacher or student, was going to receive that trip to Disneyland, load of gift cards, and guaranteed job.

Oh, except it's not the slappee that gets the goodies. It's the owner of said slappee's "intellectual property owner."

:eyes:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:58 AM
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65. If only I had had an intellectual property owner...
I could have gotten a trip to disney land :) Seriously though, never piss off the wood shop teacher- those bastards make the worst (or best, depending on perspective) paddles.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:23 PM
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114. I salute your courage.
As a former soldier in the wars, my hat is off to you. Stay safe.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:44 PM
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4. A personally audience with President Obama?
sounds like a hostage taker who wasn't prepared and/or didn't want to take hostages lol and Walmart gift cards? What a crazy women.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:51 PM
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9. I'm wondering why $13,500 and not, say, $14,000, or $13,723.48... (nt)
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:50 PM
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56. She explained that - $1500 per year for the rest of his school career
To help pay for incidentals and uniforms and such...

She does have one demand I agree with - no HAARP mind-altering emanations to be aimed at the local community, or other mind control techniques. They ought to just grant her that one and call it even... :)
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:47 PM
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5. I can't imagine a scenario in which slapping a child would be appropriate.
I'm also sure that the teacher will be disciplined.

The letter is just...

surreal.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:52 PM
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11. Looks like she will retire
which is too bad. She's really a good teacher. As crazy as this letter is, I'm wondering if this really happened at all.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:58 PM
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21. It certainly is never appropriate and I don't condone it
at all. Even though I'm the daughter of teachers and staunchly defend them and what they deal with every single freaking day, I do not blindly defend them or refuse to recognize that there are bad teachers who mistreat students. My parents would be the first to agree with that. However, given the craziness of this woman, I have a hard time believing the story as she tells it. AND I also know full well what teachers are subjected to at the hands of their students and enabling, coddling parents.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:14 AM
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89. Agreed. nt
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:47 PM
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6. It was only a matter of time before Orly Taitz sold franchises. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:14 PM
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109. Or maybe it's a spreading disease? Sheesh. nt
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:48 PM
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7. I'm sorry, but "CurtisGotSlapped.com" just sounds hilarious.
:rofl: :rofl:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:52 PM
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57. Probably to everybody except Curtis©
Poor kid...

:rofl:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:49 PM
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8. Poor Curtis.
When you are 18 go far far away!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:53 PM
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12. I'm hoping his mother is being checked for competence
This can't be a happy home for Curtis.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:59 AM
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66. I think the letter...
speaks of her lack of competence.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:05 PM
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125. I was thinking the same thing.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:53 PM
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13. Teachers should not slap students
But if the boy really was behaving badly, then I think a gentle reprimand from the school should suffice, and this woman's demands should be accordingly ignored.

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:53 PM
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14. The teacher needs to be dismissed; the crazy mother is just a distraction
Ha ha ha funny lady and her crazy demands. Now let's get rid of teachers who hit any child for any reason and then we can get back to laughing at the funny lady. Or do we want to ignore the real problem?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:55 PM
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16. I'm wondering if it really happened at all
I am in no way condoning slapping any child, but this is so crazy, I can't help but wonder if it is the creation of a very delusional mother.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:41 PM
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39. My thoughts exactly. Just because some psycho nutball said it happened,
doesn't mean it happened. I got sued in federal court years ago by a nutball who, among other things, claimed I struck a child in her care. It of course didn't happen, but she wanted to be as dramatic as possible in her suit and I guess she thought it added color.

I won, of course. And did it serving as my own attorney.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #39
91. I don't believe it.
Witnesses? of course her son will say whatever he's told to say.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:59 PM
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58. I'm wondering the same thing. n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:16 AM
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82. Anyone who works with the public gets these letters/lawsuits from time to time
Every year or so I get a long letter from someone who is schizophrenic/paranoid or something like that. Not the same person, although there have been repeats. Just a long letter, usually photocopied and sent to a lot of people. It makes you wonder if a person is this crazy should I feel scared that they have my name and address.

Part of this letter is also shares some idea with the sovereign citizen movement. That is why she is claiming copyright on their names, so the user can be sued for huge statutory damages. Ironically this long letter purports to be anti-racist when using white supremacist ideas.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:44 PM
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134. She probably hallucinated the whole incident.
I know a lady with Schizophrenia and she will insist that someone has dome something they never did.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:01 PM
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23. Yes, and what about teachers who are subjected to students
who are physical with THEM? I've been subjected to that as a sub, my parents dealt with that throughout their long career. It happens a helluva lot more than you'd think, far more than any incidents of bad teachers. It very much goes both ways, you know. I realize that teachers are to blame for everything under the sun when it comes to education, but students and their parents bear a large share of responsibility and blame as well.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:33 PM
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33. My partner has seen the same thing at his school.
he is a large bear of a man,ex-military,ex-cop 5th grade behavior-challenged students...and the kids don't usually say anything but "yes,sir" to him(even though he is a sweetie)
his best friend,however,has a different story.
she is a 4th grade behavior-challenged teacher...and the kids are horrid.She is a very strict,but kind,teacher...but the kids are getting bigger,more aggressive...and their parents are no where to be found.I feel sorry for the kids...but I also feel sorry for the teachers.these guys have dedicated their lives to kids the world has turned it's back on.There's no one there to defend them.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:40 PM
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37. My stepdad was attacked a few times in his classroom
throughout his career, as were some of his colleagues. It always terrified him because he couldn't defend himself, if he lay a hand on a student, even one who was attacking HIM, HE was the one who could get in very serious trouble. Total bullshit.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:27 PM
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117. I still have a scar given to me by a student....
A seventh-grader came into my classroom one day and threw a book at me. Off to the ER I went. Every time I look in the mirror, I thank God I'm out of that nightmare.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:38 PM
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36. Can we get rid of students who hit and attack teachers and
staff and their coddling parents, too? Or does that just never happen in your teachers-are-the-only-ones-ever-to-blame perspective?
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:52 AM
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60. They should be expelled and charged with assault
I actually went to school in this district. I'm aware of the low quality of both the students AND teachers.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:19 AM
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84. Nice broad brush
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:20 AM
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86. I guess you'd know.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:20 AM
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85. There is NEVER a reason for a teacher to assault a child nt
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:47 AM
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93. Oh please
are you kidding me?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:07 PM
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105. That is not at all what I said or asked. I asked
about students who attack and assault teachers. Because I can tell you that it happens a HELLUVA lot more than the other way around and, often when students are "hit", it's when the teacher is attempting to defend him/herself from an attack. And not just in inner-city or crime-ridden areas, either. My stepdad had to take a couple of assaults because he was afraid of what would happen to HIM if he attempted to defend himself. My mother taught at a juvenile reformatory for boys where there were often assaults or threats of assaults. Just as not all teachers are good and effective, not all students are little angels, either.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:08 PM
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106. This thread is not about students hitting teachers
Bringing that up implies that you think it's OK for teachers to hit students because some students hit teachers.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:16 PM
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112. That is not what I said at all.
Nor do I think it, and neither would any other decent teacher I know. I personally know many teachers who've reported the misbehavior of other teachers. It goes without saying that, unless you're being directly physically attacked, you should be immediately fired if you get physical with a student

But you cannot ignore the larger issue of this thread. Using your logic, you apparently seem to think it's okay for teachers to be assaulted and seem to have no idea of the prevalence of that (believe me, it's much more common than you'd like to think). Do you not think teachers should be able to defend themselves when attacked, or should they just take it? I can say from firsthand experience just how frightening it is to be threatened by a student, particularly one who's taller and stronger than you. And I'm just a sub.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:01 AM
Response to Reply #14
67. this lady sounds as balanced...
as a three-legged table. If she told me the sky was blue I might question my concept of blue.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:18 AM
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83. +1000 nt
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #14
138. You state "the real problem" as if you perceive merely one.
You state "the real problem" as if you perceive merely one. Is that correct? In this story you see simply one "real" problem?

It would appear as though the verbal indictments you so easily throw out like pennies into a pond apply just as validly to you also. :shrug:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:54 PM
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15. If I were a mean person
I would say his mother should be slapped. But I'm not.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:56 PM
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19. LOL first comment following the story:
does anyone else feel that ms curry should be allowed to slap lisa henry bowen (c)?

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:06 PM
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26. thanks. I feel much better
for my meanness! :rofl:
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:57 PM
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46. I *am* a mean person, and I thought you were going to say
"The mom is too damned high".

But you're nicer than that.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:56 PM
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17. I can't get the 40 page doc at the website
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:58 PM
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20. Try this:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:29 PM
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32. I like how she's copyrighted her and her son's name.
Edited on Wed Nov-17-10 10:31 PM by Drunken Irishman
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 10:39 AM
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102. It's a nice touch.
Now the school personnel will have to start referring to him by his student number in order to avoid paying royalties.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:56 PM
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18. From the letter, the principal was the one who told her about it.
So, the teacher did slap him. She will be disciplined (written up in her permanent file, which then becomes an issue every time she's evaluated from now on, and if she leaves the school, it will most likely follow her, as it's now all over the internet, making getting a new job very difficult--all of which is appropriate, in my opinion).

The mom, though, is nuts. If I were the principal, I'd ban her from talking to teachers directly and ask that a higher-up be present for any meetings (and record those meetings with her permission, just in case). This one's a big-time liability.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:02 PM
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24. I think Mom screwed her chances to win a lawsuit
with this insane list of demands.

The teacher is probably going to retire. I've worked with her and find this hard to believe. So I find her predicament sad. If she really did slap him, then she should retire. If not, she really doesn't have any choice but to retire.

And this poor little boy will still have an insane mother. He's the real victim here and my heart aches for him.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:52 AM
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78. I agree. I feel bad for the boy, too.
I once taught a kid whose mom was bat**** insane, and he admitted to siccing her on teachers he was mad at. We'd go on lockdown, just his teachers, when she came into the school, and we were told never to talk to her at all, not after she threatened a teacher and then his football coach.

This is a sign that it's time to retire. It sounds like it really happened, and if it did, then it's time to realize that the stress is too much, and it's time.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:58 PM
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48. The mother is still the only source on it though,
so who knows what happened.

When I was a cashier in a supermarket a crazy woman once insisted that I gave her the finger as I was checking her out. She threw a tantrum in the middle of the store, insisted on seeing the manager to tell him "this white bitch flicked me off". I said I'd never seen her before and asked her to show me the receipt to prove she'd gone through my line.

She started screaming "are you calling me a liar? then I'm leaving" and pushed her way out of the store.

So while it's not inconceivable that a teacher might slap a student, I wouldn't assume it actually happened based only on the accusations of a woman who is clearly suffering a severe break from reality.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:53 AM
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79. True, but she references a call from the principal.
The principal would have notes on that and would be the one who'd know what happened.
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:10 PM
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50. I have a few parents that I will not
meet with out a administrator present. Their out to get any teacher (not just me) any time any where in trouble. The father yelled and screamed at me after a 12 hour day (a saturday) at competitions and he wasn't happy about the events his daughter was in. My wife who was the bus had to witness this guy go off. He wanted to meet with me on monday so I made sure it was with a administrator. Him and his wife were calm at that point but left saying they like to rock the boat to keep things lively. I still have run in's with them, but I believe all the school board down believe they've flipped the boat over. i have a very supportive admin, not everyone does.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 12:50 AM
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59. Please tell me you don't teach Grammar and Composition


* an administrator

* they're out to get

* he and his wife.


Please.

No put-down, it just burns my eyes....



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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:56 AM
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64. I was thinking the same thing, but was afraid to say anything. nt
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #59
97. thanks for the belly laugh
at 7 am
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #59
111. No I don't
but the next time I write something in a minute and a half I'll try harder to meet everyone's expectations.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #111
129. Just don't call your wife a bus. It's not nice.
:rofl:
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #129
142. Your right
she would kick my butt for that. I think long and hard when I speak to her because she will correct me in a heart beat. Which is good, she makes me proof my grants, papers and recommendations over and over before I would submit them. On a msg board she lets me look like a fool. :spank:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:19 PM
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113. +1. nt
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:12 AM
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70. "Is our childrens learning?" This is snark, directed at the writing style
displayed in the message block.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:02 AM
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76. How on Earth are you allowed to teach when you're obviously
incapable of constructing a sentence?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:12 PM
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139. I imagine there's a relevant difference
I imagine there's a relevant difference between the informality of our personal lives after work, and the formal disciplines we structure ourselves to work within five day a week. Else fashion designers would never wear sweat pants.

"Ah, but for the high standards we set for all others but ourselves."
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #139
141. There is also a functional and relevant difference between "the informality of our personal lives"
and near-illiteracy.
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 09:59 PM
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22. k&r because everyone needs a good laugh.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:03 PM
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25. Insanity, it hurts looks fake (haarp mind control) 4channy, funny
"audience with the honorable minister louis farrakan..."
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:13 AM
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71. 'Fake' was my first reaction, I also wondered if it was a deliberately over-the-to
effort to make a point (as in, she knows how wildly insane it is, but she's having us on). Any way you slice it, though, it's pretty hilarious...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:18 PM
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28. Hey, kids! Let's laugh at the crazy lady!
The crazy dark skinned lady, no less.

:eyes:

Why else do you think that theses stories -- and stories about animal abuse, and about wacky government spending, and fat people, and about moral atrocities like banning smoking and spanking (not doing them but banning them) -- get so much press?

They're low-rent agitprop. "Buy our paper and get your outrage on!"

Funny how we are able to cynically write off news about Hollywood train wrecks and the upcoming royal wedding, but we still fall for this bullshit. (Or is "(mammal) puckey" the new acceptable term?)

--d!
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:22 PM
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29. curtis got slapped and her picture with GW bush is classic
if its fake its brilliantly executed. if not, even better.

http://www.lisahenryjazz.com/gallery/index.html
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:29 PM
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31. This got press because this woman IS crazy
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:48 AM
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62. How much press did this really get?
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 01:49 AM by HuckleB
And, sorry, but wealth, gender and race don't have a thing to do with it, once you write 40 pages like that, and start a web site.
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:20 AM
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72. hey, the complainer called the teacher a "white bitch"
what would you think if a parent accusing a black teacher of slapping her kid referred to her as a "black bitch"?

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Zanzobar Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:24 PM
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30. Because the skin wasn't broken?
Hmmm. I got a couple tings to say to my old man over tanksgivin.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:34 PM
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34. They slap kids at a school named for a champion of nonviolence?
Am I missing something here?

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #34
126. yeah - and the kids at that school are the "sovereign property" of their parents, too
a truly bad place to be a kid
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:38 PM
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35. Forget the kid, slap the mother. nt
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:41 PM
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38. I wonder if she has only recently developed this extremely manic behavior?
Because from all evidence on her website supporting her jazz career, she seems to be what she says she is, and she sounds like it too.

And I am evidently, from the photo gallery, one degree of separation from her, twice - one musician I've performed with and one other I've met.

She's documented, however, as having pulled a power play on a local KC jazz foundation, with "racist" accusation trash talk. So I don't know.

Too bad, the woman is really talented, she doesn't need to do all this crap.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:47 PM
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40. I've lived in this town all my life and am married to a musician
and I have NEVER heard of this woman. She can't be very successful or I would know who she is.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:54 PM
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44. here is her web page. it does have auto play audio
which is reason enough to slap curtis and her both, so be warned.

http://www.lisahenryjazz.com/about/index.html
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:02 PM
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49. I heard the autoplay audio already,
but honestly, she can sing, and her piano player isn't bad, either.

Not quite like arriving on an old Tripod/Angelfire page with a blasting synth version of some crap song, with so much crap on the page you can't find the freaking sound controls.

Hers are placed on the same place on every page... I found them within seconds... and honestly, she CAN sing.

That's what makes her such a sad case (in my opinion, anyway)... she's got so much going on... I wish I could sing like that... she doesn't NEED to be a professional @-hole, much less mess up her kid's head.



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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:15 PM
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53. I remember that first attack, in a lab facility in Idaho Falls
where surfing was frowned upon. Started blasting some terrible music while i was killing time, mid 90's metal trash and page froze. Had to be ie4, I finally powered the machine off and went to get a coke..

To this day i am offended by any noise coming from a computer that i did not initiate.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:37 PM
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54. hahahaha
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:10 AM
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69. that site...
brings back bad memories of the late 90's :)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:24 AM
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99. was it really THAT long ago when pretty much all sites looked like that?
:evilfrown:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:54 AM
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104. well, I think that was when it started...
it did continue for a while, though.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:56 PM
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136. Badly done GeoCities pages! AHHHHHHH!!!
:scared:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #54
135. LOL, that's great!
:rofl:
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:12 PM
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52. You may be right.
All of us in the music world know of the scenesters who are full of crap and talk a big game. She might be one of those.

Or maybe she just doesn't work anywhere that isn't a Queen Bee situation for her... local jazz foundation; gov't/public type gigs.

It's a shame she's guano poop crazy, she really can sing.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:48 PM
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41. No she is a professional race card dropper
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:51 PM
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42. Y'know, if I slapped an adult, I'd easily have a lawsuit on my hands
and depending on other circumstances I might actually have committed a felonious assault

I don't know what happened here, so I don't feel comfortable sneering at the upset woman who says her son was slapped

I will say I'm unclear on why people think it's OK to slap kids
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:52 PM
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43. Maybe curtis deserved it, and if you read the letter sneering is the last thing you will do..
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:40 PM
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55. We might think lots of folk deserve to be slapped -- but if they're adults, they can usually
sue us and can very often file a criminal complaint if we slap them

On the other hand, many people seem to find nothing wrong with slapping kids

Maybe as a gun enthusiast you would prefer if the lady had threatened to shoot anybody who laid an unfriendly hand on the kid?

So she wrote a bunch of long letters. Big deal
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:56 PM
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131. I got my ass slapped in school, my parents asked if i deserved it
and in hindsight I did. Now if the teacher broke the rules, thats bad and she should be reprimanded.

My hobbies are not relevant here. I also appreciate british sports cars, running her ass over with a bug eyed sprite (or shooting) her had not crossed my mind.

The letter mentions HAARP, meeting the honorable louis farrakan, obama, cornell west and 250,000 dollars with her kids name copyrighted.

It is fucking hilarious and curtis will be getting slapped when he goes to yale as a result of this rant.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:56 PM
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45. Who thinks it's okay to slap kids?
I clarified in my OP that I don't condone that.

But I also don't think we can be sure that even happened. This mother is obviously insane. This 40 page letter is full of delusional demands.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:51 AM
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63. It's very unlikely that a lawsuit would be made, or even get very far.
And most police officers aren't going to arrest someone for slapping someone else.

No one has said it's OK to slap a kid.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:08 AM
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68. People are regularly arrested for slapping other people
A little websearch will turn up plenty of cases

Elementary school student in Slidell arrested after allegedly slapping teacher
Published: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:02 PM Updated: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:26 PM
http://blog.nola.com/tpnorthshore/2009/03/elementary_school_student_in_s.html

Duval volleyball coach charged with slapping player
Posted: October 21, 2010 - 5:09pm
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-10-21/story/high-school-volleyball-coach-arrested-fired-charge-slapping-player
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jancantor Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:25 AM
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73. they said MOST police officers
unless the slap was domestic related (relatives, etc.) in most jurisdictions it is not a mandatory arrest, and sure SOME people are going to get arrested for it. Many aren't. Fwiw, in WA state it would not even be a crime, generally speaking because teachers under the RCW have the same authority to "physically discipline" as parents. A slap to the face CAN be excessive physical discipline, but not usually.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:26 AM
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74. Some people are arrested.
That doesn't mean that slapping someone is likely to lead to an arrest, or much of anything else.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:12 AM
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80. Who's saying it's okay to slap kids?
As for sneering at the woman, there's "upset" and there's the pile of wildly unrelated-to-the-incident "bills" she's put together to the tune of over a million dollars, demanding a $180,000/yr job at the school board, an African holiday, a car ("my choice"), her mortgage, home renovations, and nine years of professional tennis lessons. Oh, and claiming to hold a copyright on the kid, and wanting to bill people for using his name in any context.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 10:57 PM
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47. Child Protective Services should check in on Curtis. His mom is not well. nt
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-10 11:11 PM
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51. Thank you for posting this
This is really very funny. Though it is kind of sad too, especially since she is putting Curtis' name and image out there to be associated with her crazy.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:14 AM
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81. Yes it's very sad.
I feel for this poor little boy.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:35 AM
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75. I would NEVER email her...
she would have a 40 page reply:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:38 AM
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77. She'll be lucky if the kid isn't removed from her custody.
It's a reasonable presumption that she is mentally ill and incapable of caring for a child.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:23 AM
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87. An all new low
I'm not sure who released this story but I'm guessing it was an attempt to smear the mother and not focus on the assault that took place in a classroom. An all new low, IMO. Now we laugh at mentally disturbed people and defend people who attack children?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:29 AM
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88. The mother sent this out to hundreds of people
I'm amazed it took this long for the press to pick up on it. It's been a month since she sent the 40 page letter.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:36 AM
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90. She CCed Obama, Biden, half the federal government, and the honorable
louis farrakan, seriously, its public record. And will live on in internet lore for ages. Poor curtis will be at yale and still living this down.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:25 PM
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116. An all new low in not reading before you post, evidently. nt
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:21 PM
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140. Crazy like a fox, eh?
Following your train of critical thought, as she was the one who released it, I imagine were forced to realize that it was she herself that attempted "to smear herself and not focus on the assault that took place in the classroom." An all new low for her...

Crazy like a fox, eh?

Or (and I find this a bit less fictional) many of your fellow posters at DU are able to perceive (and comprehend) more than one absurdity in the story. There are indeed many people who are able to juggle more than one apple at a time. :shrug:
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:39 AM
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92. Although Curtis should not have been slapped
the sense of entitlement by people is amazing.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:48 AM
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94. Curtis' mother should get slapped
numerous times, for being absolutely ignorant!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 08:51 AM
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95. Sad about this is the mom is obviously coconuts and that's probably why
Kurtis behave in a way that this horrible teacher felt the need to slap him.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:01 AM
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96. Well, first of all, did anybody actually verify that Curtis got slapped?
Sorry, but knowing kids, if one of them got slapped, every other kid in school would know before class was out that day. I find it rather suspicious that until his Mom wrote the principle and everybody else under the sun, "no one really heard about it." Sorry, but this fact alone makes me wonder if the slap happened at all.

But let's assume it did happen. OK, then the teacher should be disciplined, and I'm certain that the school district has guidelines that come into play here.

But the biggest elephant in the room is Mommy Dearest here. First of all, she is simply batshit crazy. Who in their right mind copyrights their kid's name? Second of all, her demands are all out of proportion to the action. Does she honestly think she will get any of these? Is she stupid enough to actually go to court with these demands? And frankly, what kind of drugs is she on?

This is just fucked up all the way around. But sadly, in this litigious society, the school board will cave. The teacher will be fired, the parent will be placated, and Curtis, well, he'll learn that he can get by with murder if he screams and threatens a lawsuit.

Frankly, if I had ever gotten slapped when I was in school, my Mom wouldn't be going after the teacher, should would going after me, wanting to know what stupid shit I had done to warrant such a reaction from the teacher.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:13 PM
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108. Did anyone verify the woman actually wrote/sent this letter?
The story is all over the racist web, but CurtisGotSlapped.com seems to be a nearly vacant website, and the alleged letter doesn't at all resemble in style the letter she wrote on the jazz-hall issue
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:24 PM
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115. Yes it's been verified
She actually wrote this.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:41 PM
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119. By who? Got a link?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:57 PM
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123. The website set up is registered to Henry Bowen. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:29 PM
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128. The website curtisgotslapped has nothing but a few pictures, perhaps of curtis
Who is "Henry Bowen"? The woman once went by the name "Lisa Henry" and later by "Lisa Henry Bowen" or "LIsa Bowen" but not, so far as I know, by the name Henry Bowen.

The website curtisgotslappedbyawhiteteacher.com, which actually has the content, was registered on 11 November, the same day the pitch-blog was posted, and carries tags like "A slow descent into schizophrenia" so is presumably not her's; it seems to be a money-making venture, to judge from ads it hosts

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:11 AM
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98. Two words: Mental Illness.
Seriously.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 11:07 AM
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103. Yup. I say that as someone with bipolar disorder.
People often use mental illness as an insult around here, but she does really sound manic. I have bipolar II, so I've never been manic to the point of being seriously delusional - I tend to go to paranoia rather than grandiosity. My cousin has bipolar I, though, and this sounds like something she would have done back before she had a psychotic episode a few years ago.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 07:02 PM
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137. Knowing someone with Schizophrenia, This woman sounds schizophrenic to me.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:48 AM
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100. Awesome...She should hold stage performances where she reads it all aloud
You're telling me people wouldn't pay top dollar to see that? I'll buy a front row seat...It's like an unfiltered Sarah Palin without the whiteness and manufactured wholesome image! Better yet, this could be one of the great satirical works of the decade, as long as they don't go intellectually cheap and do it in a mock-reality TV style....A live wire of overlapping themes of race, class, education, politics, litigation, instant fame, etc...They could probably find a way for Michelle Rhee to put in an appearance as well...


Before some daring producer makes this woman a billionaire, do we have the first bit of confirmation that the teacher did what she claims?
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 09:51 AM
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101. Wow
I just can't bring myself to be bipartisan on this event. You see, there was this kid whose name was Curtis who grew up on the same block with my children. He was pretty big for his age and was a pretty nasty bully. He was always picking on the younger ones until one day, my oldest daughter who happened to be the oldest and biggest kid on the block caught him. She just so happened to be playing basketball at the time and invited Curtis to join her....when he did, she proceeded to try and put the basketball up Curtis' nose. The basketball didn't fit of course, but Curtis became much more docile and didn't pick on the younger ones as much... mainly because they would remind Curtis that Hanna, my daughter would be home from school shortly.

So unfortunately any kid named "Curtis" always reminds me of this obnoxious child.

It also reminds me of an old joke:

The first day of class a mother brings her son into the school room and introduces him to his new teacher. She also has a small request regarding her son that she thinks is very important that the teacher hears...

Mother to teacher: "This is my son Johnny, and he is a very sensative child, so when he misbehaves if you would just slap the child next to him, he'll straighten right up".
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:11 PM
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107. "Speaking engagements." *snort*--there are no entries. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:15 PM
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110. That poor chi--er, "intellectual property." Run, Curtis, run, ASAP. nt
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:33 PM
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118. OMG
Poor Curtis.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:45 PM
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120. She does specifically request that HAARP not be used against her.
So I guess that option is out.

:rofl:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:50 PM
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121. Money orders or silver coins for payment only
Can't trust a check. :)
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:52 PM
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122. Imagine the letter she'll write when they take her son from her
She's mentally unfit to parent.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:05 PM
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124. I just find it hilarious that she copyrighted their names
and he's her "intellectual property."
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:17 PM
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127. While I'm incredibly disturbed that a teacher slapped a student and then when another students asked
why she did it, she slapped that student as well, and while I understand the racial undertones of a white teacher slapping a black student, that letter is just bizarre.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:39 PM
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133. Where did you get that?
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Mona Blue Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 03:03 PM
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130. That is just plain nuts.
Very bizarre.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 06:39 PM
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132. This woman sounds schizophrenic and I bet the "slapping" never happened.
She needs help ASAP.
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