Mayor Of London Warns George W Bush-War Criminal: 'Bring Book Tour To Britain & Never See TX Again'

[kpete]

The Mayor Of London On George W. Bush, War Criminal
18 Nov 2010 10:31 am

Boris Johnson is a total Tory and an old friend from college days. In a piece in the conservative Daily Telegraph, he advises George W. Bush not to bring his book tour to Britain, because he could face arrest as a war criminal:

It is not yet clear whether George W Bush is planning to cross the Atlantic to flog us his memoirs, but if I were his PR people I would urge caution. As book tours go, this one would be an absolute corker. It is not just that every European capital would be brought to a standstill, as book-signings turned into anti-war riots. The real trouble — from the Bush point of view — is that he might never see Texas again.

“Waterboarding” is a disgusting practice by which the victim is deliberately made to think that he is drowning. It is not some cunning new psych-ops technique conceived by the CIA. It has been used in the dungeons of dictators for centuries. It is not compatible either with the US constitution or the UN convention against torture. It is deemed to be torture in this country, and above all there is no evidence whatever that it has ever succeeded in doing what Mr Bush claimed. It does not work.

How could America complain to the Burmese generals about the house arrest of Aung San Suu Kyi, when a president authorised torture? How can we talk about human rights in Beijing, when our number one ally and friend seems to be defending this kind of behaviour? I can’t think of any other American president, in my lifetime, who would have spoken in this way. Mr Bush should have remembered the words of the great Republican president, Abraham Lincoln, who said in 1863 that “military necessity does not admit of cruelty”. Damn right.

more:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/8133411/George-W.-Bush-cant-fight-for-freedom-and-authorise-torture.html
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/11/the-mayor-of-london-on-george-w-bush-war-criminal.html

[marmar]

1. I'd love to see * hauled off by the Yard.

nt

[valerief]

88. Alas, only in our dreams. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

105. Better yet...

the Tower of London :hide:

[gkhouston]

2. Why give a warning? That was ill-considered. n/t

[BeFree]

6. W should go see the Queen

Please, W, go see the Queen, and give her a big wet kiss for me while you're there.
Please, W, here's your last chance to make us all happy.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

135. Hopefully the Queen will behead him for treason

[Donald Ian Rankin]

7. Because it's nice to preserve the illusion that justice is blind.

I can't even begin to imagine the diplomatic clusterfuck that would result from the UK arresting George W Bush, but the inevitable upshot would be that he would be released without trial, and the comforting (and necessary) illusion that the law is enforced even-handedly and no-one is above it would be severely damaged.

[Hosnon]

21. Because he gets the accolades without having to actually arrest a former U.S. President. nt.

[yurbud]

23. it would have been more fun just to let it be a surprise.

[moondust]

53. Maybe they just don't want him there.

And figure that will be enough to keep him away.

[NewJeffCT]

76. That was my thought as well

surprise him right after he gets out of the airport...

[EC]

They don't want the riots

and anti-war demonstrations...they are telling him to stay home...

[Occulus]

125. Bush is arrogant enough that this might goad him into it.

Remember, we are dealing with a very self-entitled person here. He might try it just to try to prove something.

[Rex]

145. That is typical British behavior. I'm not surprised in the least

and maybe they are goading him into showing up to get arrested. I applaud the mayor of London for his bravery and support for a Bush war crime trial! This could get interesting.

[47of74]

189. That was my first thought too...

...if the Brits actually wanted to arrest him they should've kept quiet about this.

[Frustratedlady]

3. We could all chip in and buy the air fare. A tune is running thru my head...

"All I want for Christmas is..." Hmmmmm!

Does anyone else notice how often this is coming up these days? That book may not have been a good idea for GW.

[Iggo]

9. Iwas thinking more along the lines of 'Gimme a ticket for an aero-plane'

"John Yoo, he wrote me a letter."

[Celtic Raven]

42. Excellent choice!

"Lonestar days are gone,
I'm never going home,
John Yoo, he wrote me a letter."

:thumbsup:

[Iggo]

44. I like it!!!

:applause:

[Celtic Raven]

56. Thanks

couldn't have done it without you.

:hi:

[daleanime]

85. Now if some kind person would just...

put it up on Y-tube for us.:applause:

[Celtic Raven]

160. I'd love to see that!

:rofl:

[Art_from_Ark]

113. "Well he wrote me a letter saying we couldn't win the war without waterboards

Mister, mister, can't you see
I've got to get back and torture some more
Every day"

[Celtic Raven]

158. Good one

:applause:

[Art_from_Ark]

161. "I don't care how much money I gotta spend

I gotta get out and torture again
Torture's in my blood
I'm a manly stud
John Yoo, he wrote me a letter"

[MrMickeysMom]

144. You bet!

Give em a ticket for an air-o-plane
Ain't got time to take a fast train!

[Celtic Raven]

159. Love your pic/sigline!

:evilgrin:

[MrMickeysMom]

166. ...

Thnx.... I wish I knew how to put another picture IN the sigline...

[Celtic Raven]

184. I can help you with that

I haven't added a pic, but I know how because spanone helped me with it just this week.

i just put the image into my photobucket account

then i went to 'edit my profile' and pasted it in the 'signature' space.

that's all i did. hope it works.

spanone

I didn't have a photobucket account, so my link always simply showed up in my sigline as a link. I'm uploading pics to my new account so when I decide to put a pic in I'll have them all ready to go.

Good luck. :hi:

[MrMickeysMom]

187. I'll have to try this...

I was thinking more complicated, plus, I thought I'd be limited by dimensions or pixels or some damn thing. I do have a photobucket account, which isn't as simple as it used to be.

Thanks! :hi:

[Celtic Raven]

188. Just passing it along

I haven't tried it yet since I'm still uploading & organizing my PB account, but it sounds easy enough. And if not, I'm sure someone else will help us out.

:hi:

[mmonk]

63. +1

[rexcat]

104. We could also pay for Cheney's airfare. n/t

[begin_within]

183. I'm leavin' on a jet plane. Don't know when I'll be back again.

[chill_wind]

4. K & R.

[Kolesar]

5. Mayor Livingston sponsored an antiwar rally last time bush was in London

And *this* is his rival, who replaced him, talking!

[DirkGently]

8. It would be tragic if some country secretly "extradited" Bush to face these charges.

[Gin]

13. nothing is going to happen to the shrub...but that headline made

me happy for a minute..

[demigoddess]

99. not until his secret service protection runs out in 10 years.

alas

[awoke_in_2003]

107. I was about to correct you...

but then I found they changed the lifetime protection to 10 years in 1997. Not sure how to feel about that.

[drm604]

129. Not that I think we'll see this actually happen,

but could the secret service really protect him from the police forces of a sovereign government while on that government's soil? How would that work? Would we see armed shootouts? Would they try to get him on a plane and out of the country while authorities are trying to prevent that?

Certainly military threats, or even action, could prevent it, but would the military be used to protect a private citizen who happens to be a former President?

[Pavulon]

147. yes.(nt)

[Poll_Blind]

10. Bush and Israeli govt/military officials, like peas in a pod they avoid the UK like the plague.

The possibility of cuffs and the Hague are a little to schpooky for the brave torturers.

PB

[DrDan]

11. I paged through the book yesterday at Sams - and it is so clearly

written by someone else.

I am 100% confident that junior has never, in his life, ever used the word "silhouetted".

[madmax]

14. Can't imagine that either. nt

[formercia]

100. Next time, glue some pages together with a booger

so people will think it's an autographed copy.

[ooglymoogly]

115. Well if he can say nukular, he surly can say silly-outed.

he just thinks they mean something entirely different.

[DrDan]

179. funny part is - he spelled it correctly

[ooglymoogly]

182. If you mean all the ghost writers and checkers when you say he

The royal we, then you are correct.

[tclambert]

164. But do you think he even READ the book?

After all, it's longer than "The Little Goat."

[DrDan]

178. good point!

[Solly Mack]

12. K&R

[DearAbby]

15. K&R

[ixion]

16. I'll pitch in for a one-way ticket

who's with me?

[Bravo Zulu]

17. I am!

[Paper Roses]

81. Somehow I'd scrape up half--coach of course! n/t

[Kaleko]

95. Aye!

[HillbillyBob]

106. I would miss a couple meals!

Shouldn'a warned him though. I like that kind of surprise.

It would be a security nightmare for them though since so many Brits likely dislike him enough to take to the streets. I would feel bad for those that got hurt in the melee.

[ooglymoogly]

119. to the Hague.

contrary to what Jon Stewart thinks..."*" is a war criminal on a steroids.

[Dragonfli]

18. K&R

[malaise]

19. Freaking perfect

Rec

[laughingliberal]

20. K & R nt

[RZM]

22. I doubt Bush would risk going to Europe to promote his book

But let's think through what would happen here if he were apprehended in a foreign country. It would probably end up being the major political scandal of the era and would absolutely dominate the news cycle for a long time. It would cause a serious row with whatever country picked him up, but more importantly for us, it would have a devastating impact on domestic politics. Polls would probably show overwhelming opposition to the action (because a lot of people who vote Democratic would not support 'their' president being deprived of his liberty and tried under another legal system and Republican voters would universally oppose it) and Republican politicians/talking heads would milk it for all it was worth, which would force many Dems, including the President, to condemn it in the strongest possible terms, but that wouldn't fully insulate them from the damage. It would be an utter disaster for the Democratic Party and depending on what happened after, would probably increase Republican margins in the house, flip the Senate, and cost Obama his job in 2012.

[gratuitous]

24. At the time Dim Son was selected . . .

I recall that he had been out of the country three whole times. Yeah, he won't be doing any traveling to foreign countries now that he's out of office.

Part of the larger picture is captured in the article's commentary in the original post. How does the United States protest repressive measures by other countries when we've so freely engaged in torture ourselves? We have no credibility, and it won't come back to us as long as we allow our own crimes to go not just unpunished, but uninvestigated. Nobody's tracking this shit down, nobody's subpoenaing witnesses or gathering evidence. We're apparently closing our eyes and hoping it all goes away.

I really hope the people in other countries, in their righteous wrath over American depradations, are careful to target the guilty with their reprisals (we'll call it terrorism, because . . . well, just because). But if they're not, how do you all feel about paying with your lives or the lives of your loved ones for the crimes of the Bush administration? I'm not comfortable with that at all, but I could be in a vanishingly small minority. I often am.

[paparush]

33. Paraguay..he'll be taking the book tour to the Bush compound in Paraguay.

http://www.trufax.org/general/bush_family_paraguay_hideaway_up.html

[MedicalAdmin]

55. It won't happen soon, but I suspect it will happen.

IT took years before Kissinger was tried as a war criminal (which is why the assbag doesn't travel - too bad we can't have the secret service do the job) and they got Pinochet.

But they waited 20 years so that the people in power were FAR removed from them and didn't have to worry about fallout. I suspect that Dim Son will get nabbed sometime and tried. Or tried in absentia. But it ain't happening soon.

[JDPriestly]

83. I disagree. RZM.

Democrats are not so immoral that they believe "right or wrong, my President." If Democrats were that crass, the House would still be Democratic.

I hope that Bush does go to England and that he is arrested. It is a matter of rule of law rather than rule of power.

I support the rule of law. As the Mayor of London pointed out, waterboarding is torture and torture is a crime. It is a practice worthy only of a medieval despot. The day we close our eyes to Bush's cruelty, his torture, his illegal invasion of Iraq, his waterboarding and spying is the day we acquiesce to the loss of our freedom. Bush made a mockery of our Constitution. Bush showed no respect for American traditions about the treatment of prisoners. I would support arresting him.

In Washington's Crossing, the author describes the brutality with which the British and Prussian soldiers treated the American rebels and then discusses the fact that Washington prohibited torture or the mistreatment of soldiers. That began our long, noble tradition of treating prisoners in times of war with decency and human dignity. There have been exceptions, but those instances have never been condoned, have never been systematically approved at high levels.

Our country reached a moral low point during the Bush administration. Very sad. I think that the respect we would gain in the rest of the world, the respect for the spirit of government by law rather than by despots would more than compensate for any discontent on the part of Republicans in this country.

Here is the reference to the book.

http://www.amazon.com/Washingtons-Crossing-Pivotal-Moments-American/dp/0195170342

[liberation]

97. Any country detaining a US president (current or former) would be turned into a glass parking lot...

... unless of course they detain Carter or Clinton, who republicans don't consider real presidents anyway.

So let me rephrase that: any country touching as much as a single hair of a prominent member of the GOP would be turned into a glass parking lot. We underestimate the effect that the past 50 years of GOP strategy have had in turned this country into their own private Idaho so to speak.

[RZM]

101. But just think of how it could be spun

There's a million avenues that the Republicans could take to the electoral goldmine on this, but one that jumped out at me right away would be invoking the military. They could say: 'Anyone who supports the prosecution of Bush as a war criminal is essentially saying that our entire military - our brave fighting men and women, who put their lives on the line for freedom, are themselves war criminals.' They would repeat that sentiment over and over, day in and day out, every chance they got.

The fact that it would happen in a foreign country would be especially galling to many people as well -- obviously DU and the progressive left would support it, but that's not a particularly large chunk of the electorate. The fickle 'independents' at the center would break in overwhelming numbers to the Republicans over this. You'd probably see a fair number of registered Democrats unhappy about it as well. While not all of them would flock to the Republicans, some would, and many others wouldn't turn out for the Dems.

In fact, it would be so overwhelmingly unpopular, that I think it would be hard to find more than a handful of Democrats in Congress that would support it. There would be no fence-sitting or equivocating either -- elected representatives would be hounded on it by an eager press until they gave their position and probably most Dems in Congress would oppose it, some just as vociferously as the Republicans. I'm telling you, this would be a scandal the likes of which we haven't seen since Watergate and usher in Republican majorities in both houses of Congress and almost certainly lead to Obama going down in flames in 2012. The sad part is, all of the losses would be for nothing too, because there would eventually be a deal cut to get Bush out of hot water -- but by then the damage will have been done.

[JDPriestly]

156. So, if we want to place ourselves as lords of the universe, as the moral

marauders of the world, then we can ignore morality in favor of demagoguery and appealing to the basest instincts.

I don't think Bush or torture are that popular. And I think they would be even less popular if the victims of torture were allowed their day in court -- as they should be.

Torture is a slippery slope. Once it is OK to torture someone whom you claim presents some sort of threat, then you can justify more an more torture until it becomes an everyday means of intimidating those who are hungry and therefore steal, those who are angry and therefore disobey you -- almost anyone.

I don't know if you have ever dealt with a case of domestic violence. The abuser always justifies the violence. The abuser always sees him- or herself as the victim. Usually, the police, some higher authority figure, has to intervene with more force than the abuser before the violence stops or the abused spouse can move out. Even child abusers often cannot see themselves as the criminals that they are.

Just because Americans would resist the arrest of Bush does not make that arrest wrong or inappropriate or even, in the larger scheme of things, undesirable.

I believe that it would, all things considered, be a positive thing for our society and for the culture of our military and intelligence services, if all those in the Bush administration who authorized torture were called to answer for it. They are, in terms of the world, the equivalent of spousal or child abusers. They abused people who were already in their custody, helpless.

Some of those who were abused were no doubt criminals, even dangerous, but our law prohibits the torture even of criminals for very good reasons. It is hard to redraw the line against torture once it has been crossed. It is almost impossible to regain the moral high ground once it has been lost.

The Bush administration lost the moral high ground for the United States. The only way that we can regain it, that we can earn renewed respect for our country and our military is to punish those who authorized torture. Torture is a despicable, unconscionable crime.

[Hardrada]

149. Hessian soldiers not Prussian.

Frederick the Great had other projects for his soldiers.

[JDPriestly]

157. Sorry. You are right. And if you read the book, you learn that a surprising

number of the Hessian soldiers stayed or returned to America to become Americans.

[Hardrada]

190. True. They did indeed. Largely in Pennsylvania I believe.

[liberation]

96. The fact that you're correct in your assessment...

... says so many things about our country/society at so many levels.

We love to think our selves as the benevolent land of the free and justice, yet when it really matters... when push comes to shove, we drop our pretense and don't seem to mind to go into full blown "empire" mode. Almost without skipping a beat.

Orwell had us pegged with the whole doublethink...

[RZM]

108. I think it's more of a human thing

It's like the old adage about how an older sibling spends their whole childhood tormenting their little brother or sister, but if anybody else messes with them, then there's hell to pay. It would be interesting to look at work done on reactions to international war crimes trials in the countries which the defendants come from. I imagine in many cases opinion is very divided, with those who supported the leader angry about it and those who endured their wrath supporting it. But remember too that a lot of war crimes defendants are on trial for what they did to their own citizens. That wouldn't be the case with Bush and would thus greatly limit support for the endeavor here in the US. While a lot of people in the US don't like Bush, few here dislike him in the same way that a Cambodian disliked Pol Pot or a Bosnian Muslim disliked Milosevic.

[stevenleser]

127. I think it could go either way. There is something about international charges of "war crimes" that

is really damaging. There is no question that Repugs and the conservative media would try to come to his defense. I'm more unsure of what the indys and centrists would do. Its an ugly, ugly charge. Its the international relations version of charging someone with child molestation.

If this ever happened, the smart thing for the arresting country to do would be to turn him over to the Hague right away and let the UN deal with it. A televised UN tribunal where pictures and evidence were presented in stark terms would do much to quiet down those who were yelping about the goings on.

[Angry Dragon]

25. It is a sad country we live in

We as a country have decided it is more important to have our elected officials get re-elected than do the right thing, the honest and moral thing. We are not the country that was started over 200 years ago.

Yes, the right is correct, we do need to get our country back. We need to bring this country back to the country of hopes and dreams, the country where it was thought that anything was possible. We are at the point in time of this country that where 98% of the people fear that they have lost their country.

The first step is to bring bush and his administration to trial for war crimes. To hold ALL people to the same laws and justice. Until we do that this country will continue its slide into the Bowels of Hell.

[RoccoR5955]

26. I wonder if that warrant for him and Cheney are still valid in Vermont.

They NEVER visited The Green Mountain State, while they were in office. There is a standing warrant for them there, in Brattleboro, and Marlboro, for war crimes. It should be, the townspeople there voted it in in 2008.

[rocktivity]

27. Works for me.

Yum!

:9
rocktivity

[Historic NY]

28. Put him in the "Tower".

[ProdigalJunkMail]

29. Make him part of the tour?

[Bragi]

30. Notice that none of the Bushites travel abroad

Rummy was hauled out of Paris by the CIA a few years back before he could deliver a planned speech. The reason: the CIA feared he was to be served with a war crimes subpoena from the international criminal court.

Since then, I've noted a distinct lack of interest in foreign travel by most people associated with the criminal Bush administration.

Obama's refusal to investigate the Bushites under U.S war crimes law inadvertently makes their foreign travel situation more risky, since the international criminal court only has jurisdiction when the country of a person suspected of a war crime refuses to investigate and prosecute that person.

So if there is one thing about the Bushites you can feel good about, it is this: while most Americans are free to travel anywhere they like, Bush administration officials cannot travel outside the U.S.

I like that thought myself.

[kag]

126. I guess my problem with this is...

I WANT him to leave the U.S. I want him out of here...permanently! All of this just means that we have to put up with him for the rest of his no-doubt long, cushy, privileged life. Barf.

[Blue Owl]

31. Things are looking more sane across the pond

While over here we have Obama giving the Bu$h family medals of freedom -- how can this be?

[fascisthunter]

32. Please go to London Bush... you'll Like It There, seriously

[rurallib]

73. take your dad and Uncle Dick too.

[Jefferson23]

34. What an absolutely wonderful headline...how I wish it were true.

Salivating in Ct., I admit it.

[joeybee12]

35. Makes me want to offer to pay the airfare to make sure he does go...nt

[ElsewheresDaughter]

36. K&R

[Rambis]

37. As long as the tour ends with life imprisonment

I am for it:toast:

[patrice]

38. Oh shit! YEAH!!! Thank You, Boris!!

[jwirr]

39. See George you can go an see all your great ancestral site and

then get some free room and board. Just your thing.

[Uncle Joe]

40. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[goforit]

41. Well, the mayor just may tell the police to back off protesters, oops.

[me b zola]

43. K&R

[Drale]

45. They shouldnt have warned him

they should have just arrested him, when he showed up.

[NYCGirl]

61. Well, then the Mayor couldn't get his name in the papers

looking like a tough guy.

[Fumesucker]

46. What Obama would do to London would make the Blitz look like nap time at the preschool..

We would obliterate the UK in such a scenario.. h/t Secretary of State Clinton..

[GreenPartyVoter]

52. Oh, we would kick up a fuss but I don't think we'd bomb them. Economic pressures would

be far more likely.

Besides. If we bombed them wouldn't we hit ** too?

[MedicalAdmin]

58. That'll never happen.

We will do nothing of substance if it happens. Nothing.

Why? because there is no profit in bombing London and lot's of profits to be lost. It would, for one, close the entire EU market to the US. Imagine for a moment what that would do.

[Fumesucker]

62. Just imagine the Republican reaction to Dubya being held in the UK..

Anyone who thinks they wouldn't be falling all over each other to go to war in such a scenario is huffing some really strong glue..

[dbmk]

66. Can't be much glue left...

US attacking Britain over it? Who on their right mind would ever consider that a plausible scenario?

And thats without 2 wars that people are already sick and tired of.

That being said, as has been stated further up; Its a free posturing. Good old Big Brat Boris trying to score some cheap points.

[RZM]

79. The reaction would be strong

But it would stop well short of armed conflict. It would probably lead to a serious diplomatic spat and perhaps a recalling of embassy staff or something like that. It would probably seriously shake up domestic politics in both the US and the UK. I don't know enough about UK politics to predict how it would play out there, but here, it would be an epic disaster for the Democratic Party -- one that would take years to recover from.

[readmoreoften]

117. They may pal around these days, but Obama is way too timid to bomb other rich countries.

That would take an agenda beyond furthering his own political career.

[indimuse]

47. KNR! n/t

[MissDeeds]

48. In London he may be arrested for war crimes

And yet in this country he is given shelter. Okay....

:grr:

[dembotoz]

49. tea baggers will want to invade england if that happens

i can see it on fox now
those guys at that buckingham (is that a type of pork??) palace wear red because they are commies i tell ya. They even got that social government heath care thing.

[bluedigger]

50. I agree with Boris.

Kpete, your use of quotes is a little confusing. At first I thought you were an old classmate of Boris. Perhaps you should box the entire excerpt and use quotation marks within it? Or maybe it's just me being dim.:rofl: Thanks for sharing it in any regard!

[earth mom]

51. Please gawd-if there is one-please let * be stupid enough to travel to Europe....

O8)

:evilgrin:

[riverbendviewgal]

54. W won't travel

He doesn't like foreigners. He is probably like my bubba brother....who hates Europeans, Obama and blacks and immigrants. and is proud he doesn't read about any other cultures , countries and believes that there should be 700 overseas military bases because "that's just the way it is".

[DesertFlower]

57. i wish we had the balls to prosecute that bastard along

with cheney.

[tomp]

124. we? i got 'em, i'll bet you got 'em...

...it's obama and holder who ain't got 'em.

[Hannah Bell]

59. why does tony blair still roam free, then? i don't believe this.

[stevenleser]

131. Blair did not authorize torture. While he could be up for the war crime of

an unprovoked war of aggression, I do not think he authorized torture.

[Hannah Bell]

132. who authorized this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-military-intelligence-ran-renegade-torture-unit-in-iraq-1924784.html

http://www.ww4report.com/node/9230

http://nvs-stream.com/2010/11/07/british-version-of-abu-ghraib-in-iraq/

http://stopwar.org.uk/content/view/2126/1/

[stevenleser]

137. Did you read your links?

Well, your first link talks about a renegade intelligence unit. By definition it means one that was not authorized

Your second link doesnt have enough information to tell who authorized it

Your third link makes the suggestion that these were acts by small groups of soldiers that were not authorized.

The fourth link you provided makes no suggestions of torture at all

[Hannah Bell]

148. did *you*?

Secret operation 'REPORTING ONLY TO LONDON' deprived prisoners of sleep, documents show

They also reveal that OFFICERS RUNNING THE OPERATION CLAIMED TO BE ANSWERABLE ONLY "DIRECTLY TO LONDON". The revelations will further embarrass the British government, which last month was forced to release documents showing it knew that UK resident and terror suspect Binyam Mohamed had been tortured in Pakistan...ETC.

there have been multiple revelations about the brits running torture in iraq & fingers pointed at the government, plus protests. for that reason alone i doubt very much they'd arrest bush.

[Turborama]

60. He's also an old college "chum" of the Prime Minister, David Cameron

2. David Cameron 8. Boris Johnson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullingdon_Club

[Hannah Bell]

171. oh, gag. another billionaire boys' club.

The Bullingdon Club is a socially exclusive student dining club at Oxford University. The club has no permanent rooms and is notorious for its members' wealth and destructive binges. <1> Membership is by invitation only, and prohibitively expensive for most, given the need to pay for the uniform, dinners and damages.<2>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullingdon_Club

Gee, they've all been such successes. imagine that.

this is what the upper classes do for fun: trash ordinary people's businesses.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1478131/Oxford-hellraisers-politely-trash-a-pub.html

arrogant little pricks.

[Turborama]

174. Yep, I read an article detailing how they trash a restaurant & throw money in the face of the owner

on departure. I tried to find it when I posted earlier but can't remember where I'd seen it. It's not the one you added (thanks, interesting read), I think it was in another paper like The Guardian or The Independent.

[Hannah Bell]

185. this one?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6409757.stm

[harun]

64. I'm still hoping one of his flight "mistakingly" diverts and Obama says "Ooops".

Then he goes on trial.

[grahamhgreen]

65. Yes - let's get this mainstream and goad him!

[frylock]

67. we're all looking at you and waiting for action AG holder..

you fucking worthless piece of shit.

[Marr]

68. Why would he try to sell his book in England? They don't even speak American.

:P

[Raster]

69. Kicked and HIGHLY Recommended! bush*, cheney*, rumsfeld*, rice*, et. al,

...are war criminals. And should be treated as such.

[Jack Rabbit]

70. As I said when the story of his "Damn right I ordered waterboarding" remark hit the papers

Interpol knows where to find him.

Gentlemen, do your duty. No one in this country will.

[TxVietVet]

71. The former conservanazi pretzeldent can't leave N. America.

his a$$ is in abig jam and the conservanazis are being quiet about it. bu$h snuck into Canada to give a speech and snuck back in the US. he was harrassed yesterday at a book signing with protesters calling him by his correct name "war criminal". I don't think his sperm donor is being seen with him.

he has no conscience for he is one of those "born again" christian a..holes. If commits crimes or mortal sins, it's okay 'cause he's "saved".

bu4h, the f*cking maggot. :puke:

[rurallib]

74. too bad Canada didn't arrest his ass when they had a chance.

[howaboutme]

118. Too bad our own Party didn't take care of it either

but that's another sad story. I start reading all these "too bad they didn't do this or that posts", but the problem wasn't them, it was us.

I'll almost guarantee that Republicans will not take anything off the table and will be chafing at the bit to investigate Obama.

The investigation was needed and it didn't happen.

[lovuian]

72. Where is America going to stand when Bush is CONVICTED

on war criminal charges

[BetsysGhost]

75. hey Bush

I'll buy you a ticket on the concord. Take lots of reading material. :evilgrin:

[Roy Rolling]

77. I am taking up a collection....

to sponsor a "moron-a-palooza" and sending the guest of honor--- GWB ---to promote his book in London. Please give 'til it hurts, but not the hurt of organ failure if you know what I mean.

[KansDem]

78. I would gladly be scanned and groped as a proxy if Bush went to London!

Let that be KansDem's sacrifice to bring this war criminal to face justice! :patriot:

[Turbineguy]

80. Do they still have those

dank dungeons in the Tower?

[Major Hogwash]

82. And yet he is adored in America, and Scooter didn't break the law, and Al Queda was working with

Saddam Hussein and we know all of that is true because it was on ABC, CBS, and NBC for over 8 years.

Bush is adored.
Condaleeza Rice is adored.
Colin Powell is adored.
Rumsfeld is adored.
Tenet is adored.
Feith is adored.
Wolfowitz is adored.

They are all so adored.
They should all be on Dancing With the Stars.
Or maybe they should get their own reality show, call it "The Adorable Ones".

[Enthusiast]

91. It's true. In the minds of some Dubya is

downright fucking wonderful.

[proteus_lives]

84. Is he chasing Blair across the countryside too?

[stevenleser]

130. Did Blair authorize torture?

Blair may be guilty of the crime of an unprovoked war of aggression, but not torture.

[grace0418]

86. I would happily chip in all my miles for that ticket to London. Does he even know where London is?

Maybe we could convince him it's a city in Texas.

[The Backlash Cometh]

87. Well, Obama is going to give him a Medal of Honor,

so Bush is clean now.

[spin]

89. In all reality, if Bush was arrested, Obama would probably send troops

to rescue him, if necessary.

But the British government would never allow the Mayor of London to arrest him in the first place. If they did, they would also have to arrest Tony Blair.

Remember Bush has his own security and the Brits also protect a visiting dignitary. Watching a bunch of London Bobbies running up to arrest Bush would be like the watching a movie of the Keystone cops.



Is the London mayor up for reelection or something?

I have to admit that it would be great if it actually worked. Bush the Junior deserves to be in jail for the way he misled us into invading Iraq.

[Enthusiast]

90. Plus one, K&R and Dubya is a war criminal!

I'm glad someone pointed this out.

[RagAss]

92. I LOVE IT !!!

[Ken Burch]

93. Boris is likely saying this because he's up for re-election next year

And will likely face a fierce challenge from Ken Livingstone, the man he narrowly defeated for the post three years ago. Livingstone's coalition of supporters have a keen interest in foreign policy, and outside of his own base, the arrest of General Pinochet was virtually the ONLY genuinely radical act of Tony Blair's "New Labour" government, a sop to the non-Blairite majority of the party that despise Blair for stripping Labour's election programme of almost all recognizable left-of-centre convictions.

[MrModerate]

94. Boris Johnson is a total dick, but I'm behind him on this one.

Lock the bastard up!

[MellowDem]

98. If they didn't jail the previous PM...

they won't jail W.

[Mona Blue]

102. BRAVO

Well done.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. I'll even get him a first class ticket

[howaboutme]

109. BUT Boris did not take Impeachment or Prosecution OFF THE fxcking TABLE

Excuse my French folks. Vulgarities not intended as disrespect.

Some things such as conveniently sidestepped ethical obligations to the US Constitution and to the people for the sake of politics or opinions of Party operatives I'll not forgive nor forget.

Country first not Party. That's my vote, you make yours.

Too bad that Bush might require a trip to London for US citizens to get justice.

[democrank]

110. Go Boris!

[markmyword]

111. Why Did You Tell?

The Mayor of London, should have kept quiet and let Bush come
to the U.K. for a book tour.
If he hadn't said anything, there would have been the element
of surprise and Bush could have been arrested as a War
Criminal.

Now Georgie, won't go to England, knowing what the Mayor of
London has planned.
What a MISSED opportunity. People around the world would like
to see Bush tried and put in prison for the rest of his life,
for torture and getting us into an illegal war.

[howaboutme]

114. Just for once

We need to see some true accountability by and of elitist politicians and rich financialists, instead of having politically connected elitist poll taker advise others to allow public opinion to die down and the need for prosecution and corruption to fall by the wayside.

Too many pols are in the game of shafting us for their benefit. George Carlin RIP succinctly and vulgarly explained it all very well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

We need to see examples set so that others do not repeat the past.

[gateley]

112. I wish he hadn't warned him... nt

[KatyaR]

116. I say sic Gene Hunt on his ass...

Gene'll take care of that right away.

(vague "Life on Mars" reference)

[Pacifist Patriot]

121. Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust....

Love Gene Hunt!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

120. Sheesh...Don't warn the bastard!

Just effing take him away!

[markmyword]

122. Why Did You Tell?

The Mayor of London should have kept quiet and let Bush come
to the U.K. for a book tour.  If he hadn't said anything,
there would have been the element of surprise and Bush could
have been arrested as a WAR CRIMINAL.

No Georgie, won't go to England, knowing what the Mayor of
London has planned. What a MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

People around the world would like to see Bush tried and put
in prison for the rest of his life, for torture and getting us
into an ILLEGAL WAR.

[tomp]

123. i'll pay for his ticket and send obama the bill. nt

[former9thward]

128. Why doesn't he arrest Tony Blair?

He doesn't have to wait for him. He is right there.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

136. B-liar was part of the neocon treason

[in_cog_ni_to]

133. He doesn't have the balls to leave this country.

He knows damn good and well his ass is grass if he does. Neither he nor Cheney will ever travel to Europe. Maybe Dubai and Paraguay, but that's it.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

134. too bad they warned him

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

138. The mayor was actually born in New York

so New Yorkers, be proud. Very interesting mayor, and city.

[Mosaic]

139. Bush and his people must be brought to justice

One way or another.

[defendandprotect]

140. Wonderful to see that anti-war protesters would be out -- that some still care about law.....!!

Remember when America cared about justice - law?

[ProudDad]

141. "Anything you say will be taken down and used in evidence"

[klook]

165. Sidney Paget!

Love the way he illustrated the Holmes stories.

Perhaps Sherlock will track Bush down.

[BrklynLiberal]

142. and hopefully they can take care of Cheney and the rest of the Bushites...

[jmowreader]

143. The Republican leadership might actually go for it

The last administration is full of people who need to be washing sheets in Sing Sing for the rest of their twisted little lives. If they just handed Georgie over to the Brits, they could transfer one hundred percent of the blame for those eight disgusting years to Shrub.

Better: the Brits would probably remand him to The Hague, where everyone here is certain Shrub should go.

[Lindsey]

146. I'm thrilled that he came out with this statement. Unfortunately,

IMHO * has no intention of going oversees. Having said that, this would be my dream come true.

[derby378]

150. Scotland Yard can have Bush. Texas doesn't want him! (n/t)

[HuckleB]

151. WOW!

Just WOW!

:wow:

This is amazing, coming from this guy.

:)

[janewin]

152. really?

how about u start by locking up the War Criminal Tony Blair. I will this once u start a criminal trial for Tony Blair

[onehandle]

153. Bush will never leave the country again.

Except maybe to go hold hands with a Saudi or two.

[ashleyforachange]

154. They should....

have never told him. Let his war criminal tail get arrested.

[jtuck004]

155. Then put a "Mission Accomplished" banner across his cell door. n/t

[DemocraticPilgrim]

162. That is fasinating him being a Conservative, woo their cousin party even. n/t

[tclambert]

163. Let's buy W a plane ticket to London!

I would contribute $100 to that fund.

Rule Brittania!

[SharksBreath]

167. He shouldn't have warned him. He should have invited him.

Then had him arrested.

[Vinca]

168. Okay, so where's the fund raising drive for the plane ticket?

Chances are, Shrub will think it's a joke and go anyway.

[HipChick]

169. In the UK, Blair's book tour was brought to a halt by protests in the streets..

In the US, we just whine on forums and message boards

[tavalon]

170. Yeah, Bush. wouldn't you like to see a little British hospitality

OTOH. what have they done to Tony Blair?

[Turborama]

172. LOL I forgot to rec when I posted earlier & got probably the last 1 in (311) before closing time n/t

[Turborama]

173. Self delete of dupe n/t

[AllyCat]

175. Someone buy him a one way ticket...

[JohnnyK]

176. K&R - Wonderful!

[felix_numinous]

177. Why give him a warning?

It's like people are allowing him to get away. I'd rather just read he was arrested at a book signing. Now that won't happen.

[barbtries]

180. oh, please

i'm not a praying woman as a rule, but...PLEASE, take your book to london bush!

[WhiteTara]

181. I'm sorry he warned him.

I would have loved him to send an invitation to * and then greet him with an arrest warrant and the police.

more typos

[GreenStormCloud]

186. Meanwhile, back in the real world...

I W did travel to anywhere, he would do so under diplomatic immunity. The mayor of London, or of anywhere couldn't touch him.

That is similar to the fantasy that used to be posted about having a street cop go to his ranch and arrest W. Never happen in the real world.