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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:00 PM
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Post here if you would be effected by changes to "birthright citizenship"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4619984

Let's see, Grandma entered the country illegally around 1921. Under the proposed changes, I guess my Mom wouldn't be a citizen, so I wouldn't be!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:05 PM
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1. cook county no longer has originals
of either marriage certificates or birth certificates. It has images that it will print up for a fee.

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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:12 PM
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2. Dad came here legally I think
He did become an American citizen before I was born, so I think I'm OK. But Oy Vey - what makes us Americans?? We were born here!!!!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:14 PM
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3. how far back does it go?
I think my grandparents came in under a much looser laws. Would probably be considered illegal today.
If they were illegal, then my dad was illegal which must make me illegal? Think mother's parents were the same also.
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Travis_0004 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:15 PM
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4. Ex post facto. Look it up.
Illegal under the constitution.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:44 PM
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10. I raalize that - just wanted to once again get a count of how many of us here
have near relatives who were undocumented aliens. If current laws had applied then, Grandma would never have gotten her citizenship.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:30 PM
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5. Lets see grandma came here as her sister
so technically illegally, but she lived the rest of her life as her sister, so I don't know. Plus they would never be able to make the changes they want, because no matter how stupid Americans act, when It comes to the Constitution I believe and really hope america is more moderate.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:30 PM
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6. I wasn't aware that the proposal was retroactive. In fact, I am pretty sure it's not.
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Mona Blue Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 01:34 PM
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7. I'm more affected by the fact that you can't spell "affected".
Just sayin'.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:05 PM
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8. The period should go inside the quotation mark.
Edited on Thu Nov-18-10 02:08 PM by Still Blue in PDX
Just sayin'.

Edited because snarkiness loses its impact when a word is typed incorrectly. I left the "y" out of "sayin."

:rofl:

There go the God and Goddess, teachin' me humility again.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:45 PM
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12. I can spell affected just fine, it's just that I'm hazy about
when to use effected and affected!

:P
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 02:12 PM
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9. My grandmother and mother both came here in 1919 to steal jobs.
As far as I know, they just took a train from Canada to San Francisco without bothering about their British passports or worrying about citizenship. I guess my mom solved any problem by marrying (one at a time) 3 different Americans.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:45 PM
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11. I entered the country illegally in 1959 on a military transport flight.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:47 PM
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13. Neither of my parents are US citizens, only legal residents with a greencard.
That means I'd have to keep updating my greencard too, I suppose.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 04:53 PM
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14. Great great grandpa came illegally
I would be illegal along with one side's uncles and aunts and great uncles and aunts. All of those cousins, too. Fifth generation illegal immigrant.

Which is why it's insane. Even people who are for it aren't thinking about what will likely happen. We'd end up with more aliens than citizens in the country. Would that really be so great?

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:35 PM
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15. We'd end up thirty years down the road with an entire class of fugitives.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-10 05:39 PM
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16. My son was born in Mexico so he wouldn't be a citizen even if I am
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