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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:37 PM
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Woman says her TSA screening was sexual assault: agent inserted her hands between my underwear...
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 04:40 PM by avaistheone1
Business traveler, Penny Moroney, was flying home from St. Louis to Chicago. Like all other airline passengers, she had to go through security first. When the metal in her artificial knees set off the detectors, she had to undergo more screening. When Moroney asked if she could go through a body scanner, she was told none were available.

A pat down was the only alternative.

Moroney explains “Her gloved hands touched my breasts...went between them. Then she went into the top of my slacks, inserted her hands between my underwear and my skin... then put her hands up on outside of slacks, and patted my genitals.”

“I was shaking and crying when I left that room” Moroney says. “Under any other circumstance, if a person touched me like that without my permission, it would be considered criminal sexual assault.”


http://www.kmov.com/news/mobile/Woman-says-her-Lambert-security-screening-was-sexual-assault--109114934.html



Enough!
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:53 PM
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1.  Who is the person who put this in place?They should be fired!
That is totally not necessary.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:15 PM
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30. Who put it in place...
or who is ultimately responsible?
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 05:17 PM
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34. Some one had to okay the procedure.They should be fired.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 05:20 PM
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35. John Pistole...
heads the organization, and he was appointed by Barack Obama- someone who trumpeted the fact that he was a Constitutional professor- not sure anymore which constitution he taught
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:44 PM
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36. How about a petition to have Michelle Obama and kiddies go through .....
.....a TSA pat down while Mr. President watches. Wonder how fast that procedure would end. Unless of course Obama's getting a piece of the action from Chertof.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:48 PM
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37. I am vehemently against the "pat downs"...
and would wish them on nobody. But I get what you are saying.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 04:55 PM
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2. WTF WTF this is insane! nt
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:09 PM
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3. does TSA hire ex prison guards?
Just wondering if there is a crossover.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:17 PM
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14. Wait a second.
A prison guard pats down prisoners who have no expectation of privacy. And honestly, back when I worked in a prison we had guards who could spot contraband (weapons / drugs / whatever) pretty much based on how the clothes looked and how a prisoner was walking or body language. And I NEVER saw anyone frisked like that unless it was called for. I.E there was a darned good reason to suspect something.

It seems to me that prison frisking is not what we want the public going through unless we are assuming guilt, which, in thinking of it, is exactly what the TSA is doing.

Here it is folks, the cornerstone of all democracy, known as the 4th amendment and also enshrined in every other democratic constituion and document including the magna carta, shredded in order to make a quick buck.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 07:54 PM
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15. Yes these pat downs are getting as close as it gets to
criminals ...we are not criminals ...all we are trying to do is get on a plane
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:15 PM
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4. This is getting unbelievably out of control.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:32 PM
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5. Here we go..
..this will not end well - unless this agency is disbanded (won't hold my breath on that happening).
This agency is counter to every ideal that Americans SHOULD hold dearly.
I read on CNN that 80% of American support this!! I dispute that number, but either way, these people do not deserve the freedoms that that have.
See how easy it is to slip off to fascism?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:32 PM
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6. there is no way 8-% go for this. medias way helping govt to baaaah us as a people. nt
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:34 PM
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7. Maybe the 80% haven't flown recently. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:40 PM
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8. i watched cnn report with three women. all were appalled and felt invaded. all said, well, if they
have to.

the two ont reconcile for me. it makes me wonder why they found no one to stand the ground. they could fine none that weent bothered on the one hand, but no one could be definite either. whatever the supposed poll was, it is not 80% comfortable with this.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:55 PM
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31. you live in Texas...
you should know a lot of people applaud this invasion
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:39 PM
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38. i dont know how they feel. after busco election in 2004, i found myself
slowly isolating myself. now i am on about the shallowest interaction with my fellow texans, lol. i have pretty much isolated myself to all. i am curious. i will start asking people. doesnt feel so much txan as those that so willingly accomodate authority. either political party. i think there are more people that do that than people that can't do that. as i have seen in a lifetime, anyway.

advantages and disadvantages in both personalities.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:44 PM
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40. I wish I could isolate myself...
this country is getting crazy.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:43 PM
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9. She felt between top of undies and skin at belt line, then did the outside clothing pat down?
Am glad she got the crotch palpation outside her clothing.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:48 PM
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10. The woman said that TSA
"Then she went into the top of my slacks, inserted her hands between my underwear and my skin..."

The top of slacks is not limited to the beltline.

And I am not glad she got any kind of crotch palpitation. Completely unjustified.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:50 PM
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11. Chertoff's security corporation is thrilled.
"Moroney said she wishes there were full body scanners everywhere so that she could have avoided a pat down."

"...The government is currently adding more body scanners at airports across the country."

Mission Accomplished.



Michael Chertoff, Former Department of Homeland Security, is the head of the Chertoff Group, the lead cheerleader for what is being called the Full Body Scanner Lobby, reports the Washington Post and the Washington Examiner.

Ever since the Christmas Day Bomb Scare, Chertoff has been making the rounds championing the Full Body Scanners as a way to detect hidden explosive devices.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/full-body-scanner-lobby-michael-chertoff-rapiscan-2552674.html
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 05:56 PM
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12. This old lady says
touch me between my legs and you will regret it. You will know what hurts between your legs.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 06:08 PM
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13. Chertoff is laughing all the way to bank
(eom)
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:41 PM
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39. Absolutely. nt
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:14 AM
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16. What sorts of psychosis is all this going to cause to people?
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:13 AM
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17. I'm never going to fly again until they do away with the molestation
and porn pictures. It's strictly ships, trains, busses and cars for me from now on. Slower but I get to keep my dignity.

I have a latex allergy, I wonder if they do pat downs with latex free gloves?
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:15 AM
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18. where are the lawsuits on this?
TSA needs to have their asses sued!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:23 AM
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19. She probably just didn't follow the "DU Travel Tips" suggestion posted earlier.
So it's really her fault.

:sarcasm:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:54 PM
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20. She was dressed too provocatively, doncha know?
Dripping Dripping :sarcasm: (if it is really needed)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 01:57 PM
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21. And here we thought illegal wiretapping was bad...
It was sexual assault, but don't sue the lady doing her job - sue the govt for sexual harassment!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:02 PM
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22. This BS will pretty much BAN people with rape-derived PTSD from flying!
:grr:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:11 PM
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23. Only in terms of "self" banning. So that if someone has an emotional reaction, it IS their
"fault", because they "chose" to fly.

We all have "choices"...........

:nuke:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:39 PM
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25. Hah, isn't that the same "logic" used by the defenders of Capitalist wage slavery?
:hi: :hug:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:48 PM
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26. It is the dominant "logic" of this society. Trap people with no real options, then say "It is
your choice".

This is done to poor people ALL the time. As you go further up the ladder, it happens less frequently, but it is still always in the background.

The REAL choices are only for those with plenty of $$$.

Its not something that most of us want to look at.

:hug:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:59 PM
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32. minorities and the poor...
have been subjected to mistreatment by those in authority for years. Now it is starting to affect the middle class. None of them spoke up for the poor, now it has come to them.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:21 PM
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41. " None of them spoke up for the poor, now it has come to them." And that includes "progressives",
which brings me back to what I initially said that irritated some.

When are we going to stand up for poverty and homelessness???
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:37 PM
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42. ....
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:11 PM
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24. TSA - Touching Sexually Administration nt
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 02:53 PM
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27. I found a finger in my chili!
Damn You, Wendy's!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:09 PM
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28. Where are the Patrick Henrys?
The people who founded this country, from the Founding Fathers to the guys on the front line did not fight for our safety.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 03:10 PM
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29. where are the Patrick Henrys?
The people who founded this country, from the Founding Fathers to the guys on the front line did not fight for our safety.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 04:49 PM
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33. Just don't fly anywhere.
Nothing is worth going through that IMHO.
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