This Friday Afternoon’s Challenge: The "re-interpreted image"

[CTyankee]

Here are works of famous artists “re-imagining” that of other artists’. Can you name the artist/title of each work and the artist/title whose work he was re-conceptualizing?

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[pinboy3niner]

1. #2, Francis Bacon...

Study after Velázquez's Portrait of Pope Innocent X, by Francis Bacon, 1953.


Velázquez's 1650 Portrait of Pope Innocent X:

/150px-Innocent-x-

:hi:

[CTyankee]

3. Great job! It's pretty famous...

are you a fan of Bacon?

[pinboy3niner]

5. Not a fan, but the Bacon reworking is striking

I recognized it, but had to search for the details.

[CTyankee]

7. I love it!

[readmoreoften]

47. Yup. That's the first one I got.

[CTyankee]

63. Areyou a fan of Bacon? I have to admit I haven't been but I think I did see some of his works

in Bilbao in 08...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. la petite dejeuner by either picasso or braque (?)

The original Manet is itself a re-imagining of a Rembrandt etching, BTW.

I don't recall what OLYMPIA was derived from.

[CTyankee]

4. What is the work it "re-imagines"?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

8. How embarassing!

In English it's always luncheon on the grass but for some reason I alway refer to it as le petie dejeuner.

[Hannah Bell]

9. .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_of_Urbino

[CTyankee]

11. Actually, there is another one that Manet probably also re-imagined.

He was before Manet's time but after Titian...

[Hannah Bell]

34. someone else already got it. i remember though reading an article on this painting

and i think one that came after it that hasn't come up yet -- do you know anything about that. can't remember the details but there was a black slave in it too -- or maybe the reclining woman was black?

[CTyankee]

54. You are thinking of Goya...yes, I do believe that Manet was re-imagining Goya...

He had done it before, very famously...maybe you can guess which other one I'm referring to...

[CTyankee]

6. Rembrandt? I know of two other famous artists you can say Manet re-interpreted,

but I didn't know there was a Rembrandt...hmm...

[Solly Mack]

10. 1. Olympia/Manet - Titian's Venus of Urbino

That's all for me :)

Edit to add:OH!Poo...2 people already got there (together) Kurt/HB

[CTyankee]

12. Not so fast, Solly! There is another one that Manet probably took into consideration

when painting this. He did with this artist's other works...can you guess it?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

14. I hope not Goya

I don't see the Maja as a real predicate here, though if there's biographical information then that's what it is.

[CTyankee]

20. Hard not to see it, though...and Manet DID some major works

"re-conceptualizing" Goya...I think you know at least ONE of those, but there is actually another one...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

35. Olympia reads like an Ingres homage to me

The Goya Majas are so snaky and expressionistic, while Olympia is all formal shapes, living on the surface.

But he would certainly never have painted a reclining nude without at least thinking of Goya, so I buy that.

[CTyankee]

41. He seemed to really like Goya...he did two homages (that I know of) to him

and one of them so fascinated him that his wife complained...heh...

[Solly Mack]

15. Odalisque with a Slave/ Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

18. That's right! The cheeky racial update.

[CTyankee]

23. Unfortunately, it has its roots way back...in lots of art with Venuses...

[CTyankee]

22. This whole "odalisque" thing was quite the rage in Paris at that time...

one of the reasons Manet's work was so controversial was the "gaze" of his odalisque...quite different from the others of the era...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

17. Amusingly, the Manet is the chaste one

In Dresden Venus by Giorgione and in the Titian the model has her finger tips into her business. In OLYMPIA her hand is just blocking the view.

[CTyankee]

24. Her frank, and unsettling, gaze, was what the Paris salons were so up in arms about...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

30. Though at heart what really burned them was it being contemporary

If set in a Roman bath the gaze might have been noted with distaste but folks would have gotten over it.

[CTyankee]

36. I was going from the feminist critique here...the "male gaze" returned...not so nicely...

[alittlelark]

13. #5 Gauguin x Picasso

[CTyankee]

16. Not Gauguin...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

21. Cezanne?

Just guessing since he'd be of obvious interest to Picasso

[alittlelark]

67. Rousseau?

[pinboy3niner]

19. I know the original of #4, but can't find the later work yet...

Rats! :)

[pinboy3niner]

25. AHA! Reubens/Rembrandt

Peter Paul Rubens, Descent from the Cross (center panel of triptych, 1612-1614).

Rembrandt, Descent from the Cross, 1634.

[CTyankee]

29. Wow, that was fast...

[CTyankee]

26. Interestingly, the Rembrandt is the "re-imagined" one here...major hint!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

27. This would have made a nice bonus question for your quiz:

You know, but a lot of folks would be amused to see the two side by side.

[CTyankee]

32. Give me a hint...I got the rosie the riveter thing...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

38. you have to look up to see the original

[CTyankee]

40. You mean Norman Rockwell?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

43. No, he based the work on a ceiling painting.

[pinboy3niner]

44. Wow! I didn't know that

"Rockwell's Rosie is posed as an homage to Michelangelo's frescoed depiction of the prophet Isaiah from the Sistine Chapel ceiling."

http://www.rosietheriveter.org/painting.htm

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

46. Yes

[CTyankee]

49. How wonderful of Rockwell to immortalize Rosie after a prophet!

Thank you so much! That was just wonderful...

[quinnox]

28. I love #6, wow

Please give the answer if no one comes up with it, I want to know who painted that.

Edited: So the person below got it!

Awesome, it is by a Mexican painter Diego Rivera, I have never heard of him before.

I think it is a breathtaking work of genius. I have to buy a poster copy of it...

[CTyankee]

61. Rivera was a revolutionary painter from Mexico, married to Frieda Kahlo

who has now outshined him in popularity...He was a dedicated Communist back in the 20s and 30s...this is not one of his controversial works...

[Hannah Bell]

31. #6 looks kind of cezanneish. is it, or same epoch?

[CTyankee]

33. No, it isn't...

[Hannah Bell]

37. no more hints? after? before?

[CTyankee]

39. sorry...no, you have the wrong century...but I am interested in why you picked Cezanne...

I confess to being a little ignorant on him, knowing him thru so much of his flowers and fruits but not on his other works...

[Hannah Bell]

45. view of toledo, diego rivera, after el greco (as i posted below)?

i have no idea why, but i kept thinking "toledo" when i looked at it, so i googled "toledo" & "painting". i was fascinated by el greco's elongated paintings when i was a teenager.

cezanne: i thought the painting you posted looked similar to this kind of thing by cezanne:

[CTyankee]

62. Yes! I can see that! It shows how limited I am in knowledge about Cezanne...

but I DO learn...thanks for giving this to me...I am fascinated by the roots of Impressionism and this will be another artist for me to research...

[Hannah Bell]

42. got it! i kept thinking "toledo" so I googled it!

view of toledo, diego rivera, after -- el greco?

[CTyankee]

48. Yep! Rivera visited Spain in the 30s, I guess before the civil war there...

I will tell you that I was in Toledo in 08 and it didn't look to me like either one of these works...however my vista was obviously different.

What a beautiful town it is! The immense gorge is not adequately represented in either work IMO. You have to see it for yourself...it is stunning!

[CTyankee]

50. NO GUESSES FOR #3?

Hey, all you art majors! You oughta at least know ONE of the artists here! Either who did this one or who he was copying it after.

Major hint: a 20th century artist re-inventing a 16th century artist...both really famous...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

51. Okay... dali or duchamps after maybe raphael?

I looks like a doctored photo, not a painting... I know the original is a little lively for Raphael but I can't place it.

[CTyankee]

52. Do you mean #3?

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

53. Yes... or Chuck Close... or Warhol...

I got nothing but since nobody was guessing I figured I tease some hints out of you

[CTyankee]

55. No...this is interesting...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

57. Jean Arp? Seurat on a slow day? Max Eernst?

[CTyankee]

60. see my apologia below...

[CTyankee]

56. sorry! My bad! You got one of those two right...mi scusi...

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

58. It looks like Dali colors. The squares are so inept, which fits Dali. (Terrible design sense)

No clue on what it is painted over, though.

[CTyankee]

59. Yes, congrats, it is Dali! Go with my hint on the original...

[pinboy3niner]

64. Is the original Titian's 'Assunta'?

[CTyankee]

70. No, it is Raphael's "Fire in the Borgo."

Dali also did the same thing with Raphael's "School of Athens" but I thought that might just be a little too easy...

[11 Bravo]

65. Is #1 Goya's "Nude Maja"?

on edit: (I don't mean is it the original, but a re-interpretation of same?)

[CTyankee]

68. Yes, I was referring to the maja desnuda by Goya...

Some art historians have referenced it (altho noting that Manet was re-interpreting the Titian mainly). Manet was highly influenced by Goya in two other instances: The Balcony (after Goya's maja at a balcony) and The Execution of Emperor Maximilian (after Goya's well known masterpiece, Third of May).

[Hannah Bell]

66. just wanted to compare these two

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ESC4bygtp2M/Rvzw2FTX6zI/AAAAAAAABfc/huG3JdDcSlo/s400/Cabanel+Albayde.jpg

[CTyankee]

72. Sorry I was unable to respond earlier...I was late for a dinner engagement last night...

and never got back to the board!

After I teach my ESOL class this A.M. I'll post the entire list of answers...

I love the image you posted! The gaze of each woman is incredibly similar. The second one looks very fin de siecle to me, almost art nouveau, altho some older works often fool me into thinking they are in later schools...now I'll be scurrying around looking for it on Google when I get back!

[Ichingcarpenter]

69. I love your once a week test but

I just got off work and I'm tired
and even though I know each artist
and their piece, I can't cross reference right now..

Still some of my favorite pieces.

I'll check back on the answers.

[CTyankee]

71. I will post a list of all the answers a bit later...gotta run and teach an ESOL class!

[Coventina]

73. Hi There! These are my guesses without consulting ANY of my books...

1. Olympia by Manet, Titian's Venus of Urbino
2. Francis Bacon, forget the title, Raphael's portrait of Julius II (or was it Leo X?)
3. Don't know the work or artist, but I think it's a re-do of the Massacre of the Innocents?
4. I'm really guessing on this one: Is it Rembrandt re-doing Rubens' Deposition?
5. Picasso doing Manet's Luncheon on the Grass????
6. Don't know the work or artist, but looks like El Greco's View of Toledo.

Wow! The CAA is going to be here momentarily to cut up my membership card....

on edit: just read through the thread, boy do I feel stoopid!

:blush: