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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 09:47 PM
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Take a stand...if we don't stop them now
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 09:59 PM by Slit Skirt
The flood gates will open..testing how much we can be pushed...how much we will allow in the way of indignities and humiliations. If we say this is ok...we are that much closer to scaring us into being a submissive public...into a slippery slope of police state

good info here and stories about what people have experienced
http://epic.org/privacy/airtravel/backscatter/



Airports Currently Using Whole Body Imagaing Technology

•Albuquerque International Sunport Airport
•Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport
•Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport
•Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport
•Denver International Airport
•Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport
•Detroit Metro Airport
•Indianapolis International Airport
•Jacksonville International Airport
•McCarran International Airport
•Los Angeles International Airport
•Miami International Airport
•Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
•Raleigh-Durham International Airport
•Richmond International Airport
•San Francisco International Airport
•Salt Lake City International Airport
•Tampa International Airport
•Tulsa International Airport

Professor from ASU contradicts what TSA is saying about Radiation Levels

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/12/body.scanning.radiation/index.html

"....Peter Rez, a professor of physics at Arizona State University, disagrees. Rez has independently calculated the radiation doses of backscatter scanners using the images produced by the machines. "

"I came to the conclusion that although low, the dose was higher than they said," he said.

Based on his analysis, Rez estimates each scan produces radiation equivalent to 10 to 20 minutes of flight.


imho....
scanners are invasion of privacy and give off dangerous radiation
the body searches are illegal and are not a reasonable option
security experts around the world say they don't work
michael chertoff if making money and tsa is trying to justify their jobs and the purchase of these machines

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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 09:55 PM
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1. This is just a way of keeping us fearful, ready to go fight for our
way of life ( think national interests, oil ). Why all of the attention on aircraft when there is bigger and better targets all around us?
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 09:58 PM
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2. you are right....will everybody jump at the chance at
a pat down at a football stadium...let's have a grope meister feel up the guys after their tailgate party...but before the game..

hell, we could save at least 100,000 people..why not?
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:03 PM
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3. And when they tell us to move into the camps, and then go into
the showers, we will believe them because they've told us it is for our safety. . . . .



Roger Ailes got it wrong. It's not NPR that's the nazis; it's the TSA and maybe even Homeland (why does that word make my skin crawl) Security.



Tansy Gold
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:07 PM
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4. yep....i know people that are saying it's ok....
you know...."if it makes us safe..."
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:11 PM
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5. Time to say NO! We Americans need to grow a spine.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:29 PM
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10. +1000 nt
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:16 PM
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6. Say no to the Prison Planet. No to the Police State.
No to the TSA.
No to Homeland Security
No to the Patriot Act
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:25 PM
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8. that is exactly what we have to do...I am tired of this crap
they are seeing just how far they can push us....well, time to push back
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:47 PM
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12. I am proud to live in a small town on the southern Oregon coast
that voted to be Patriot Act free. And I will be proud to stand with you and loudly shout NO!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:22 PM
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7. Thanks for the list. There should be French-like boycotts of
Edited on Fri Nov-19-10 10:25 PM by sabrina 1
all those airports until they remove those offensive machines and the Blue Shirts who are complicit in the 'enhanced patdowns'.

I agree with you completely and will not be flying anywhere that I can get to by car which may mean a lot more time, but people have DIED to defend their rights. Driving across country in your own car seems not to be too big a sacrifice rather than become complicit in the totalitarianism of this country.

It's really NOT up to them, it's up to us. We get the government we deserve. Let's see if the 'Land of the Brave' has the spine to forego a few conveniences to protect the rights of all Americans. I mean no one is asking them to die or anything, just to be a little bit inconvenienced until we get this ridiculousness under control. A couple of weeks of big losses for the airlines would probably do it, followed by a Boston Harbor event tossing those grotesque machines into the water. The Revolution started over less than the kind of abuses we have been subjected today. What is wrong with Americans? Sheep? Or not?
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:28 PM
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9. I love, love that idea!
time to show them...we ain't gonna take it anymore...

oh yeah...boner..i mean boehner was allowed to walk straight through and around that security...we need to make them do it too until this is settled!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 10:31 PM
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11. Right on, Sabrina! nm
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 11:55 AM
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