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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 06:59 AM
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Lake poll: 8 in 10 strongly opposed to deficit commission proposal on Social Security
http://www.strengthensocialsecurity.org/lakepolling
http://socialsecurity-works.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/SSWElectionPoll.pdf

Lake Research Partners released a new poll Thursday with dire implications for Democrats should Social Security cuts happen on their watch. And once again, the economy and jobs combined whomped the deficit as the primary concern of voters, 42 to 6.

Overall, of the 1,200 likely voters surveyed, 82% of respondents oppose Social Security cuts to reduce the deficit, including 83% of Dems, 78% of Independents, 82% of Republicans, and 74% of Tea Party supporters.

The implications for Democrats are serious.

According to national exit poll data, Democrats lost seniors by historic proportions—21 points—in the November mid‐terms. Even in 1994, Democrats only lost seniors by 2 points.
The survey reveals Democrats no longer have the advantage they traditionally have enjoyed on Social Security. However, candidates who made Social Security an issue often saved their seats, and voters who say Social Security was a top voting issue voted more for Democratic candidates.

As we have seen in previous work, voters see little relationship between the deficit and Social Security.

Voters strongly oppose cutting Social Security benefits, even under the rationales of reducing the deficit or making the program more solvent in the long run. They strongly oppose cutting benefits for those earning above $60,000, and they strongly oppose raising the retirement age to 69 years‐old. This includes voters of all ages and partisan groups, including Republicans and Tea Party supporters.

There is also strong bipartisan support for lifting the cap to impose Social Security taxes on all wages above $106,800. Support for this is stronger when both employers and employees are taxed.

...Social Security was a particularly important voting issue for independents who voted for a Democrat in this election, voters aged 65 to 74, and older voters who are women, independent, moderate, white and African American.

Democrats cannot afford to lose these demographic groups. That's the simple political calculus. The policy calculus, is that Democrats cannot betray their moral center and be the party responsible for consigning Americans to an old age of poverty and struggle.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:02 AM
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1. You watch. This, THIS, is when we will see Obama at the bully pulpit: against the majority's will.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:09 AM
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2. I'm hoping that with enough public pressure that will not happen
It will be the end of the Democratic Party.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 10:27 AM
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11. Wouldn't that be ironic with the current dancing and celebrating the GOP demise
and self destruction. Maybe they will have the last laugh.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 07:40 AM
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3. He's already made a trip to the pulpit on this one
And it won't be his last trip. Not by a long shot.

Obama Urges Patience on Deficit Commission’s Work

November 11, 2010

SEOUL – President Obama sent a stern reminder to lawmakers on Thursday to be open-minded about the work of a bipartisan deficit commission – a warning shot to Democrats, notably House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who have condemned the preliminary recommendations of the panel’s chairmen.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/obama-urges-patience-on-deficit-commissions-work/?partner=rss&emc=rss
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:31 AM
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7. The commission's body of work is sophomoric to a fault and amounts to nothing but a huge pile of RW
male bovine excrement that reeks to high heaven and this assessment is charitable: its passage into law would amount to the willful destruction of the Democratic Party and all a party to such betrayal would be complicit. ;)
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:53 AM
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5. Yep

It will be 'fiscal responsibility', better yet, it will be 'for the children'. It will be the logic of bankers.
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The Uncola Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:42 AM
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9. Sadly...
.. that was exactly the same thought that came to mind for me also. If the majority of Americans are against it, Obama is for it. How fucked up, tonedeaf can such an intelligent man like him be? Unless it isn't being tonedeaf at all, but actually is exactly what he and his owners wanted from the start.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:43 AM
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4. If Obama signs legislation to cuts Social Security, I will work as hard as I can against him. n/t
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:25 AM
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6. + 100 n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:35 AM
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8. k&r
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:46 AM
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10. And yet the President remains tight lipped
Becaue he is opposed to the will of the people.
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