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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 08:57 AM
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The logic of the 'haves'
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:40 AM
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1. Well, that bum should go get an edumacation and 're-train' his-self
Edited on Sat Nov-20-10 09:53 AM by geckosfeet
so that he can be a more effective drone in the corpo machina.

Yes - this is a real talking point for RW economists - Glenn Hubbard. The unemployed need to re-educate so that they can boot up the economy. Sheesh. Talk about out of touch passive aggressive elitist rhetoric.
Glenn Hubbard & Alice Rivlin on Economic Solutions

They claim, straight face and all, that in order to fix the economy we need a better educated workforce. People should retrain for the jobs of today.

Never mind that schools do not train you for jobs - they train you for careers. Never mind that school costs big dollars and big chunks of time - more than most can afford when they are unemployed. Never mind that families need to be fed, rent/mortgages need to be paid, cars need to be kept up, taxes need to be paid, health needs to be maintained while one is unemployed and 're-training'.

Popular solutions for the economy from both the left AND the right seem to focus on the middle classes. Specifically, that the middle classes should pay, in one way or another, to fix things.
Glenn Hubbard & Alice Rivlin on Economic Solutions

Somehow it is the middle class, who had virtually no say in driving the regulatory and commercial machinery of the financial world off a cliff, that must help the wealthy and corporations maintain their piles-o-cash. The middle class must provide the economic incentive for companies to hire. I am not sure that I follow this 'logic' (and I hesitate to call it that but I am feeling generous) at all.

And this is a compounding problem. The middle classes have lost so much aggregate wealth that they become more politically irrelevant with each incremental increase in wealth disparity. Because - as the Roberts court has indicated - the bigger your pile-o-cash is, the more 'free speech' you are entitled to.

If you dare - check this for some jaw dropping illustrations of the growing disparity in wealth in this country.
15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America



tax them and be done with it
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 12:26 PM
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3. Where do they go to get this education?
The PTB are working overtime to destroy the public school systems, all the while wringing their hands over the declining educational level of Americans.

The idea that these people want an educated populace is laughable. Educated citizens are too hard to manipulate.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 04:10 PM
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4. Correct. The idea is simply laughable for many many reasons.
But it sounds good you know? 'Educate the poor ignorant people so that they can be productive members of society'.

They say that with disdain and contempt all the while knowing the impracticality of it. It is a smoke barrage in the class war.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-10 09:42 AM
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2. K & R.
The "Have No Compassion"s, the "Have No Shame"s is what they are.
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