TSA Patdown behavior: "Ooh, yeah, that's right. A little faster please. Ooh yeah."

[HopeHoops]

"What? I'm just in a hurry to get to my plane and wanted you to get this over with!"

[PBS Poll-435]

1. I think most are really missing the big point here.

A central agency dictated stupid policy.

I have a very hard time believing that every TSA worker that follows these stupid guidelines (to keep their job) is a pervert that wants to fondle you.

[HopeHoops]

2. I seriously doubt that more than a HANDFUL are perverts.

It is still part of a steady erosion of our rights - and yes, I'll say "Constitutional rights" here. If we just casually accept it, as with so many other things, what's next? There will be another "minor" step that everyone just "has to accept". When they do, there will be another "minor" step. My late father-in-law fought in WW-II and in some ways it is good that he's not here to see what is happening to our country. He would be heart-broken. It was one of his greatest fears - and this is a guy who wasn't afraid of anyone under any circumstances in a personal confrontation.

[bobbolink]

3. And I understand *your* point. I think most of us know what its like to be stuck in a job with

some ridiculous demands.

However, the pressure for change on this also needs to come from the TSA employees.

It is a matter of We, The People protesting the travesty, and ALSO the employess reporting on the public (pubic? sowwy) reaction.

[MineralMan]

5. I think they're going to get lots and lots of complaints from TSA

workers. I'd be shocked if that didn't happen. I can't imagine that more than a few TSA people actually want to be doing this. I'm sure that many are torn between their distaste for these searches and their need to earn a living. It's a difficult spot for them, too. I believe this will be scaled back soon, at least the hands-on searches. I expect the scanners to survive, intact, though and to be placed in even more airports.

But, I think the manual searches will be scaled back to avoid contact with genital areas and intensive breast contact. I expect it to happen shortly after this next week's travel. Thanksgiving travelers, though, are still going to experience some of this, although it won't happen to anyone but a small minority of travelers.

[Ian David]

7. You know who else would feel your balls to keep their job?

HITLER!

[Matariki]

12. LOL

:rofl:

[Ian David]

13. I'm series!!1!!! LOOK...

[Matariki]

17. Oh bravo!

That needs to get 'memed'. Hope you dont' mind.

:rofl:

[Ian David]

18. Oh, go right ahead! n/t

[HopeHoops]

20. My doctor and my wife - other than that, no.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. That's the problem. The fondler is missing the big point.

A little to the left... ahhhhh, that's the spot.

[CreekDog]

19. No, but I bet a bunch of new applicants are!

:wtf:

[Better Today]

4. I don't fly, but if I did, I think

I would put on one of the bigger varieties of panty liners, y'know the ones for incontinence. As I waited in line, I'd be sure to pee fully into the pad, and then when they want to know what that wad in my pants is, I'd reach down and pull it out and squeeze it out all over the TSA, the floor, everywhere I could reach.

Oh, I'd also have a clean pair of panties and pants and a plastic bag for the dirties in my shoulder bag so as soon as it was over, I could scoot into a bathroom and change.

[LisaL]

6. Some people, especially elderly and sick, do have

bladder incontinence issues. I can only imagine how humiliating it is going to be to explain to TSA agents what they got under their pants.
And then what? If TSA agent feels up a bulky diaper or a pad, what exactly is TSA agent going to do? Will the wearer have to remove a diaper or a pad for an inspection? How low can we go?

[Better Today]

8. Exactly, and I am older so I know about these things. Perhaps we should

just all do this as a form of civil, non-violent protest. Sort of like non-cancer patients shaving their heads in a show of support.

[pipi_k]

11. I'm wondering what do they do about people...

who have to wear urinary catheters and bags, which can fill up with pee pretty quickly

If there's a limit on liquids that can be brought on the plane (in bottles, etc), then what happens when someone shows up on a scanner with a bag full of pee attached to his or her leg? How would anyone know whether or not it's some deadly liquid bomb? What then? The person is taken into a back room to show a TSA agent the entire device, from bag all the way to the catheter tube going into the urethra?

Same thing with colostomy bags...

They'll either have to inspect each and every one, or leave the person alone, raising the chances that someone intent on mischief might try to smuggle dangerous substances on the plane under medical pretense...


ugh.

just awful

[hedgehog]

14. Here's the sad thing - someone , somewhere is trying to figure out

how to use a urinary catheter to smuggle an explosive on board. I mean, first shoes,



then underwear,



what's left?


And yes I know, the odds against a bomber being on my flight are astronomical. Let me ask you this: if I were to tell you that one bottle of a common pain reliever had been tainted with cyanide, but that there were literally thousands and thousands of bottles that hadn't, would you feel safe taking one of those pills?

We got around that problem with the tamper apparent packaging that is such a bane to our every day existence. I just hope we can come up with less intrusive methods of ensuring airline safety.

[pipi_k]

15. Yep....I agree

and each time we come up with what we think is a good way to foil said evildoers, they're going to come up with yet another scheme and it's going to be this never-ending game of cat and mouse until one side is left with no other options.

Sadly, I think we're the ones who will lose, because there's only so much freedom to give away before we're all virtual prisoners of our own fear...

[hedgehog]

16. My husband calls it whack-a-mole. Seriously though, my son made a good case

for metal detectors combined with "puffer booths" to detect explosives. He says the problem with puffer booths is that the calibration can be tricky. Getting functional equipment into every airport will be expensive. Still, considering how much we spend on a single bomber, why not put the money to where it is needed?

Despite all the anecdotes about Israeli security procedures, I don't believe in the existence of security agents who can talk to people and magically pick out the one terrorist in millions of travelers. I don't think we can rely solely on screening devices to spot trouble, either. I think we will need a combination of human and technical checkpoints.

That said, as far as i know, all the bombs found on aircraft since 9/11 passed though inspection overseas, not in US airports. Maybe we've just been lucky, but maybe we have been doing something right.

[pipi_k]

10. Probably wouldn't work like that...

liquid is awfully hard to squeeze out of those things...


You probably don't want to know how I know this.... ;)