For those of you who still don't understand why "some" of us are outrage with the TSA action.

[redirish28]

What if you woke up one morning and went to work to find that in order for you to get into the building you work at you need to be scanned and groped?



What if in order to get on public transportation you need to be groped?


For pilots and Flight attendants even those who have to travel often for jobs this is now "Normal" and we shouldn't get outrage?


What if some schools start demanding this for students going to classes?

[seabeyond]

1. some people re too comfortable following rules and would nothave issue with any of this if they

could say.... keeps all safe.

like they do not understand why some people just cannot submit, it is that hard to understand why people are willing to submit. two seperate personalities. there are more that are willing to submit in this world.

[flyarm]

6. The sheeple are all around us. Just like they were in Nazi Germany

I just took a couple to Berlin, I took them as their tour guide. when we were returning and going to the airport , I told them not to take their shoes off in security. It is not required in most of Europe.
But I told them, watch other people. I said watch what sheeple Americans are, I said over and over you will see Americans automatically take their shoes off , although not required at all in Berlin security. And indeed the couple I took, were astounded at all the Americans taking their shoes off. Europeans , no..just Americans.

Doesn't take much to train us to get on the cattle cars , don'tcha know!

Wake the fuck up Americans!

You have been had and will continue to be had because you are so easy to train to work against yourselves.
( and the rest of us pay for that as well!)

[seabeyond]

7. i would automaticall notice first person way up in line not taking off shoes. then i would be askin

we dont have to take off shoes? then i would be bitchin about the stupid ass rule in america all the way thru the line and joyous that europe doesnt fall for it.

that is what i mean. it is part of personality. from what i see. i couldnt not notice.

[remember2000forever]

11. I Always Secretly Thought That The "Shoe Removal"

was the first step in training passengers for further intrusions. I was always the only one in line complaining about EEEWWWW....foot fungus! I always said in line they should have at least given us disposable booties. No one else seemed to care though.

[spin]

2. That's the idea ...

You start off with the airline passengers and than once they accept the scan you place scanners in public buildings, malls and schools.

Big bucks in scanners.

[RKP5637]

4. Yep! If this continues probably in about a year DU will be talking about train

passengers treated the same, buses, subways, pedestrians, private cars - random screenings - looked suspicious. Then the thugs / bullies will move into being agents of the state. Beatings will occur for refusal to submit, there will be no opt out ... I see all of this coming, but many Americans are sheep and will just blindly submit to it all ...

Why anyone thinks this is stopping with airports is beyond me. It's all part of a pattern. This is not new. It's all about humiliation and submission by the masses to authority and loss of civil rights. We've seen this pattern going on and on. And, a lot of people are going to make big bucks off of this.

[HipChick]

3. I understand it...what people fail to understand

is females for years have been touched questionable when going through security. Now because a white male makes a complaint, it's an all out TSA outrage.
Once I was asked to remove my jacket by TSA, I refused because due to the style of the jacket,it was actually a top, which meant I only had my bra on underneath. I missed my flight while waiting for them to get a female agent available in a privacy area.

[flyarm]

5. No, the groping is much worse now!

I went to Berlin 1 1/2 weeks ago, the female TSA agent actually felt me up and down. She actually squeezed my boobs, and touched my nipples. And then had her hands all over my crotch area.

Oh and I do know the difference. I am a retired ( 33 yr) flight crew for a major airline. ( one of the 9/11 airlines). I was flying on a pass.

What I want to know is..when do they round us up and put us on the cattle trains????????? The signs are all there , if one chooses to see! Take a run around East Berlin and the museums, the signs are the same here as they were in Germany. One just needs to open ones eyes.

This groping has nothing to do with security. Intimidation yes, security no. Gotta sell more of Obama's buddies machines don'tcha know!!

[lunatica]

8. If we accept this it will get worse

The growth of corporate rule and the methodical destruction of Democracy have been happening in slow motion for a couple of decades at least. The last 10 years have changed this country so much that we're now finally paying attention. The Rubicon was crossed when the Supreme Court selected Bush as President. Accepting that was the beginning of the end of our Democracy. The US will continue to be, but in what form is up to future history.

[notesdev]

9. Regarding students...

I am of that middle-of-the-road age where I was just old enough to know a school environment that was free of police and police tactics... school was for school. Yet I am young enough to remember them putting up 20-ft. tall chain link fences around my high school, a prelude to all sorts of phenomena like metal detectors at school entrances, permanent police presence at schools, random locker searches, etc.

In the intervening decades, schools have neither gotten better at being schools nor have they gotten any more secure. Students, on the other hand, have been well trained to know no rights nor expect any.

[sarcasmo]

10. Schools will be the next place Chertoff and his company put these machines.