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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:25 PM
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Rep. Mica (R) is pushing for TSA to be privatized?! So he would rather have
blackwater/XE type people in the airport groping people?



I'm not sure which is worse the government groping us or a private company groping us.


http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rep-john-mica-pushes-tsa-privatization



Isn't enough Chertoff(ex homeland security CZAR) is in fact now head of the company who supplies the scanners for these body scans we need corporate Amerika to profit even more for out humiliation?
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:27 PM
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1. No shit. Whoever does it, the government is paying for it and screwing US.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:33 PM
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2. People have forgotten how bad the private security rent a cops were at airports
You had a bunch of poorly educated, unqualified and inept employees doing airport security for for profit companies. Your security was not the priority, making a profit was the bottom line. These employees often had felony convictions, and in some cases did not speak English. They received the most minimal of training (in some cases as little as 15 minutes) and had no experience in law enforcement and/or professional security.

And let us not forget that it was they who allowed 19 men with box cutters onto planes on that fateful day in 2001. No one was fired.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:21 PM
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11. Yep.
It would likely happen all over again if private companies went through a bidding process and profits were the main consideration. Little or no applicant screening or training, no job security, and low wages often translate into poor performance.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:43 PM
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3. I have to hand it to Anderson Cooper.
The other night he reported on this & asked, "How is it any different if the gropers are TSA or private industry?" Ok, he didn't say gropers, but you get the drift. ;)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:30 PM
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13. Here's how it could be different: privatized gropers have a profit motive to expand the groping
It's bad enough that the big ticket providers of "security equipment", aka the Rape-Scanner, have Michael Chertoff on the payroll and gain influence through him with the Police State apparatus and bureaucracy he left behind. That tie-in is already driving policy (and profits). Privatizing the police state apparatus is the best way to ensure it grows out of control. It's like deliberately converting the Brown Shirts into a money making enterprise.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 04:11 PM
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14. You are absolutely right about that, Kenny.
I was just stunned to hear anyone in the MSM questioning the privatization of anything. :wow:


In his book, "Unequal Protection" Thom Hartmann discusses the ramifications of privatizing the government - which is essentially what is happening with electronic voting & Citizen's United. He states that since corporations have claimed 4th amendment rights & courts have often backed that claim, once government is completely privatized, there goes any transparency. Once it's all 'corporatized' they don't have to reveal what they are doing.

Challenging Corporate Personhood
Corporations, the U.S. Constitution, and Democracy
An interview with Jan Edwards

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Controlling_Corporations/Challenge_Corp_Personhood.html

Multinational Monitor: What is the lingering importance of corporate personhood?

Edwards: Corporate lawyers began to go through the Bill of Rights and claim more and more of these rights for corporations. The Fourth Amendment right against search and seizure, for example, is used to keep corporations like Enron from having to open up their books. Corporations' Fourth Amendment protections require OSHA to produce a warrant to check for safety regulations, which gives employers time to clean things up. It also requires the EPA to produce a warrant before checking for environmental infractions.


We are headed down a very dark path & too few see that.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:47 PM
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4. He'd rather have RW private security
allow one 'to escape' rather than the state protect citizens.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:51 PM
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5. Taxpayer dollars going to security gropers...like tax dollars
Edited on Sun Nov-21-10 12:52 PM by rustydog
going to Corrections corp of America. They had a cool jail break a couple of months ago. woman walked upto the private corporate owned prison, threw a gun to the inmates and broke them out....
Yes, they do it better privatized.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:54 PM
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6. He's not head of the company, he has a "security consulting firm"
and the company is one of his clients, but I'm not saying he's not benefiting big time from this.

And, according to a guest on AC, the government made the commitment to purchase these when he was still the Homeland Security chief (undoubtedly at his urging) so next time the Republicans blame Obama for taking away our rights, we need to make them aware of this.

He's a spooky dude.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 12:55 PM
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7. The "R" after his name says it all.
This is the party that gets paid by corporations wanting to feed at the trough of federal funds.

He doesn't think that privatization will correct the current problems, he's just fulfilling his obligations to his clients by asking for it.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 02:17 PM
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8. This is payback for Campaign Contributions. The Companies
interested in the contracts if privatized contributed
to Mica and are pushing this.

It is always Follow the money.
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slater71 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 02:44 PM
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9. Here is why he wants private security companies
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 02:54 PM
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10. That is what this whole MEME IS ABOUT!!!!!!
They want to privatize. Isn't that the repug way!! Every channel you turn on talks about Privatizing the Screeners at the TSA. And whenever they want to do something it is beneficial for repugs only!!!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 03:22 PM
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12. That is even worse..the only way privatization could work is if the tsa didn't mandate guidelines.
Otherwise, it will be xe thugs groping your junk. No thanks.
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