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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:08 AM
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Did the progressive era start and end with Camelot (1960 - )
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:17 AM
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1. The progressive era started in the late 1800's as a reaction to the...
ills of Industrialization.

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1061.html

So the answer to your question is no...because you missed the start date. Also, whether you like it or not, the Health Care Overhaul was a progressive bill, the most progressive bill passed since Medicare. Yes, there is a lot to dislike in the bill, but it still moves the ball in the right direction. So your question is wrong with the end date. Which means the answer is no.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:23 AM
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2. What I really think of the Progressive era is a large number of Americans
wanting to end war around the world, people wanting to end hunger around the world (Peace Corp), people wanting to help others less fortunate.
I remember watching on network TV programs on the tenant famers, migrant workers.
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:32 AM
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3. Ozymanithrax is correct.
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 10:34 AM by End Of The Road
Your ideals of the progressive movement are the same as those that began in the late 1800s. Ending hunger, nutrition, public health, beginning of school lunch programs, more women attending college, to mention only a few, were all concerns of progressives then.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 12:41 PM
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9. But that isn't Progressivism, which has a long history...
here in the U.S. of A. It began long before Kennedy's Camelot programs and has continued since. Progressivism as a movement continues, though it has no real leaders or even a real manifesto, though it does have a lot of members.

Actually, Kennedy was a liberal rather than a progressive, but most especially he was not a member of the Peace Movement due to his promulgation of the Vietnam war, the Bay of Pigs, and his willingness to push the Cuban missile crises as close to full scale Nuclear war as we have ever come.

The Peace Movement of the 60's was a reaction to the Vietnam War and long ago fizzled. There has been nothing like it since. Contemporary Americans have proven unwilling to take to the streets and force the government to comply. They would rather play video games and watch American Idol.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:34 AM
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4. Seriously, enough with the Kennedy threads, they're all dead and all died before they bothered to do
anything remarkable. Ted bothered to suck my uncle dry of funds while lying about helping artists for a decade. None of them actually did shit.
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:39 AM
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5. JFK was the right man in the right place at the right time.
If Nixon had been elected in 1960, I think it far more likely that the Cuban Missile Crisis would have ended badly.

For that, if nothing else, JFK deserves a shitload of respect.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:57 AM
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7. So why the idolotry for Jonny On The Spot if you admit it was a fluke?
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 10:58 AM by bluetrain
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 12:58 PM
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10. Who said anything was a fluke? nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:56 AM
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6. Camelot has nothing to do with Progressive Era. This is to take
notjhing from President Kennedy whom I admire greatly.

Accoring to Historians Camelot was the Image deliberately
created by Jackie to make her husband's Legacy enduring.
Very smart PR.

Camelot refoer to the Kennedy Presidency and only the
Kennedy Presidency.

The Progressive Era--around 1946-47 until around 1977.
Years of Prsperity, Development of a real middle class
The gap between rich and poor the narrowest in history.

This is to take nothing from President Kennedy who lifted
the country's mood. Always keep in mind--just as with
FDR, Kennedy had his haters.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:09 AM
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8. Thank you, this is what I was looking for. I just could not remember when things changed
and 1977 really sounds about right. When self interest overrode the the interest of others.

And probably nationwide 1946 maybe right, but in the south it was a lot later than that.

The Progressive Era--around 1946-47 until around 1977.
Years of Prsperity, Development of a real middle class
The gap between rich and poor the narrowest in history.
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