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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:47 PM
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If Pakistan won't let us attack them with drones, let's declare a religious war against them
Pakistan denies U.S. request to expand drone access, officials say
By the CNN Wire Staff

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan has rejected a U.S. request to expand drone access to more of the country, two senior Pakistani military officials told CNN.

"Neither the government nor the military is in a position to face possible domestic pressure on the expansion of drones," one of the officials said.

Pakistan's military and its civilian government have, however, agreed to expand intelligence-sharing with the United States, including enhancement of intelligence using CIA officials in the country, a second official said. "Pakistan has given a green light to the U.S. to enhance its intelligence capability on Pakistan's soil."

The officials asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the matter and because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/22/pakistan.us.drones/?hpt=T2


Christian Seeks Pardon for Blasphemy in Pakistan
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: November 22, 2010

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A Christian woman who was sentenced to death by a municipal court for blasphemy against Islam could be pardoned in the next few days by the president, a senior government official said Monday.

Asia Bibi, 45, an agricultural worker and mother of five, is the first woman to be sentenced to death for blasphemy, according to human rights groups.

The governor of Punjab Province, Salmaan Taseer, where Ms. Bibi has been held in jail for more than a year, said he had forwarded a petition presenting the facts of the case to President Asif Ali Zardari on Monday...

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan has documented scores of cases in which men have been harassed for being a Christian, or for being a member of the Ahmedi sect, a minority group within Islam, and then accused of blasphemy. The mere fact of being a Christian or an Ahmedi in Pakistan makes an individual vulnerable to the draconian blasphemy laws, the commission says.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/world/asia/23pstan.html?ref=global-home


The puppet media is sickening. Do you believe timing of this religious spin garbage is coincidental?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 06:23 PM
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1. No?
Who do the Pakkies think they are?
If we want to drone on and on, they got nothing to say, because we can do whatever the hell we want.

Besides, drones don't care who your god is or what your god does. No discrimination in a drone.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:25 PM
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4. at least they don't discriminate. Discrimination is wrong
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:36 PM
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5. Not only that
It is Non-PC. All men are bombed equal. And the children, too.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:00 PM
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2. The "religious spin garbage" comes out in a steady, though slight, stream.
Pakistan has a problem with interethnic and sectarian violence.

Sometimes they overlap, so it's unclear whether a given motorcycle bomb or mosque shoot-out is primarily tribal or primarily sectarian because it's both.

Often enough it's clearly sectarian: Ahmadis that are killed because they're apostate or not a recognized religion, blasphemous. Shi'ites killed because they're Shi'ite. Christians killed because they're Xian. The hudood laws are the second pass at destroying the person.

First, it's personal. You torment the person. You may destroy their house by fire or maneuvre things so that it's claimed by eminent domain. You try to get them fired. You spread false rumors about them. Sometimes it really is personal: You destroy the family's reputation and livelihood because they wouldn't give you their daughter--perhaps in marriage, perhaps as a "servant." Or because their daughter, working for you, went public about the rapes and beatings.

Second, it's still personal, but in the courts. The hudood laws bring you up on charges: desecrating a Qur'aan, destroying some part of a mosque, blasphemy because you say that Jesus is God and the only word you have is "Allah", daring, as a non-Muslim, to marry or try to marry a Muslim girl. Sometimes you go to jail for a long time. Often the charges vanish when the prosecutor's tribesman gets what he wants. Or the person is pardoned.

Not to worry, there are vigilantes to do what the apostate courts were too weak-kneed to do: And the person, often with his/her family, is killed.

This is a country where it's national news if a Muslim 7/11 owner in the US is robbed and the press speculates the robber hates Muslims. Riots for Muhammed cartoons and calls for a lot of non-Muslim blood to flow. Outrage that a poor woman whose only crime was trying to gun down American soldiers was actually arrested and tried. The West discriminates unjustly against Muslims, how dare the Westerners treat the best nation, Muslims, so shabbily! Oh, that person over there, beaten and dying in the corner: She, a non-Muslim, actually dared to suggest that her unborn, illegitimate child was sired by one of the virtuous Muslims in the house she worked in for slave wages--let's get together and spit on the infidel.

Hudood laws. Imposed by ul-Haq. The beneficent, enlightened Benazir Bhutto had no problem with them. Nor her husband. The good and kind Sharif had few problems with them--he rather liked them, actually, as he buddied up to those who liked them. The nasty, reactionary autocrat Musharraf tried to dispose of them and got raked over the coals by some of the Islamic parties for it.

This is garbage. The garbage, of course, is piled high in the streets of Karachi and Quetta, Peshawar and Rawalpindi.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:01 PM
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3. YEEHAW!!
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