Ms. hart lost her job. The one Maher made fun of and some of you here.

[redirish28]

Woman who told Obama her financial fears has lost her job


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/22/AR2010112205270.html


Nobody is safe.

Velma Hart, who burst onto the media scene after telling President Obama she was scared about her financial future, has been laid off. Hart was let go as the chief financial officer for Am Vets, a nonprofit Maryland-based veteran services organization.

Hart has become another casualty of the tough economy in which so many people have lost their jobs.

"It's not anything she did," said Jim King, the national executive director of Am Vets. "She got bit by the same snake that has bit a lot of people. It was a move to cut our bottom line. Most not-for-profits are seeing their money pinched."

King would not say whether the organization had had other layoffs.

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She explained to President Obama that she was exhausted defending him to others. Some of us understood her fustration and people here as well as Bill Maher chastised her for her feelings. I am sorry she lost her job. I'm not blaming anyone except the economic times.

[TheIdiot]

1. Utterly stunning...

lack of sympathy.

[redirish28]

7. No I feel bad that she lost her job. I understood why she was fustrated with Obama

and I am sorry she did lose her job.

[avaistheone1]

2. I am really sad to hear this.

She is a very smart and articulate woman. Hopefully a good opportunity will come her way fast.

[LawnLover]

3. I didn't believe her.

And I still don't.

I think she was a plant.

[AlabamaLibrul]

5. I'm tired of defending him too. Am I a plant? Is her losing her job just a big ruse? n/t

[LawnLover]

12. I don't know. Are you? nt.

[readmoreoften]

20. Are you?

[treestar]

33. So tired you have to lay down and let the Republicans run over you

[Hello_Kitty]

37. And what were you doing during the election season?

I seem to recall asking if you did any canvassing or phonebanking and getting crickets in response.

Then again, I remember being glad you weren't since you seem incapable of expressing yourself without being condescending.

[sabrina 1]

60. No, that is what the WH has been doing.

Hopefully Nancy Pelosi will try to put a stop to any more caving in to Republicans by this WH. Obama was happy to let us know that the had added over 200 Republican ideas to the HC Bill and they still weren't happy. He seemed shocked by that. Let's hope he's learned by now.

[leftygolfer]

6. She could be both

truthful in that she lost her job and still a plant to embarass the President.

[redirish28]

8. Why does she have to be a plant? Why can't someone honestly ask these

questions of the President?

[gratuitous]

14. Well, after Not-Joe the Not-a-Plumber

And his celebrated 20 minutes (or, five minutes too long), as well as all the "coincidental" occurrences during the last 10 years or more, I don't think it takes a high level of cynicism to see someone like Velma Hart and wonder if we're getting the full story from her brief appearance.

On the other hand, this would appear to be a golden opportunity for the incoming Speaker of the House to create a great job for a deserving and qualified person.

[AlabamaLibrul]

21. They can honestly ask these questions of the President...... if it's Bush. n/t

[LawnLover]

10. Exactly. nt.

[Dappleganger]

30. Why, do you think she was too stupid to give her opinion on her own?

She couldn't *possibly* have thought of that herself!

/s

[EFerrari]

11. Fine. Now she's an unemployed plant.

Does that make you feel better?

[frylock]

16. it was obvious she was a plant..

the way she didn't kiss obama's ass. you'd have to be blind not to see it. :eyes:

[donheld]

17. Is that why Obama laughed at her?

[butterfly77]

34. Exactly...

[TheWatcher]

46. Well, that settle it then. She was a Plant. It MUST be true.

:eyes:

[pa28]

4. Just re-watched that exchange.

Almost makes you nostalgic for one of Bill Clinton's semi sincere "I feel your pain" moments.

[Mimosa]

42. Clinton was popular because people recognised he really did have empathy. n/t

[Rex]

9. Then she was right to be worried.

Unemployment has no advantages, I hope she can collect unemployment insurance until she finds something else. I feel for her, been there a few times and not so long ago. Non-profits must be getting destroyed in this corporate climate.

[HughBeaumont]

13. Why is NO one asking the corporations and the wealthy that run them . . .

. . . what the fuck THEY'RE doing to solve America's economic problems? Are they absolved of all blame here?

I really feel horrible that she lost her job, because I've been there and it sucks no matter who you are. That being said, I still feel that many, MANY people are barking up one empty tree while completely ignoring the cat-laden one next to it. What exactly was he supposed to tell her in front of CNBC's Friedmanite, Reagan-batshit-loaded panel?

"Yes Velma, I understand . . . really . . . uhm, what I plan on doing to cure America's ills is to
* fight centuries of human greed,
* tame capitalism's insatiable need for unrestrained and ever-continual profit,
* convince the wealthy that run this country and fund me, the government and it's electoral process to get on board with being nicer to the working, middle and poor classes,
* making logical sense out of the perpetuation of a linear economic system that demands infinite amounts of capital and resources where neither exist,
* try to reconcile the fact that while I don't believe giving every need and want to the rich works in the short or long term, but am still fully on board with this system out of political expediency (that and being deathly afraid of being called the "L" or "S" word) more than anything,
* create a new WPA in the face of massive opposition and out of a blow hole of wasted unpaid-for IOUs the previous uneducated dry drunk FUCK that ALL OF YOU VOTED FOR TWICE left me,
* do ALL of this without any personal sacrifice from anyone, without any change in lifestyle, no new taxes and not asking your precious rich people to even give one smidgen of a fair share.

Yeah, I'll put that on my 'to do' list, you greedbaggity ungrateful shitheads. Meanwhile, continue jacking off to photos of Larry Elison and Bill Gates as they continue to rip you off, ship jobs overseas and turn this into a Reagan paradise."

Oh, wait, that last sentence would have been what I'd have said . . . :)

[Hannah Bell]

15. +100

[tilsammans]

27. Excellent rant n/t

[BzaDem]

18. I think its possible to have sympathy for her and yet disagree with what she said. n/t

[readmoreoften]

22. Yeah, well, most of us don't disagree with what she said.

Nice try though.

[BzaDem]

23. Perhaps, though that would indicate that you (and the "most of you" who you describe) are an outlier

relative to the vast majority of progressives (who approve of Obama).

Of course, the fact that you are an outlier should prompt you to ask what you might possibly be getting wrong, are you making incorrect underlying assumptions, etc. But you'll probably just go on pretending that instead of your analysis being the problem, it is everyone else that is the problem.

[AlabamaLibrul]

24. "It is everyone else that is the problem" Looking at the last 30 years, I'll buy that. n/t

[BzaDem]

25. .

Duplicate.

[BzaDem]

26. What's the definition of someone who always thinks that everyone else is the problem?

Even when "everyone else" is restricted to those of similar ideologies?

When ALL the data shows that you are in a tiny minority EVEN of progressives, and yet you STILL blame not yourself, but the vast majority of progressives, how is that any different than Republicans who ignore all the data and claim global warming is a hoax? How is ignoring data simply because you don't like it a good thing?

[TheIdiot]

29. Personally, I think you should...

check your statistics.

Oh... you didn't CITE any statistics.

Never mind.

[Bluenorthwest]

55. The data you can not show

Gandpa said 'when a person talks about numbers using words, watch out'. Where are your figures?

[Tesha]

47. And on Tuesday, November 2nd, the Democrats are going to do just fine!

Right?

Didn't you read any news on Wednesday, November 3rd?

Tesha

[laughingliberal]

19. "Nobody is safe"

Quite true.

[saracat]

28. For God's sake, why are so many devoid of empathy and why is unquestioned

loyalty to the president so much more important that the fate of velma hart? Why is ity that the same folks who thought Bush should be questioned feel that Our president should NOT be questioined? The woman wored for a nonprofit for God's sakes.She isn't a likely candidate to be a "plant". She had every right to ask her questiions and she did so.
I just don't get the complete lack of any form of empathy for our fellow citizens who suffer in this economy.

[TheIdiot]

31. You nailed it. Sara...

For a long time now, unquestioned loyalty has trumped logic around here, and I'm kinda tired of keeping quiet about it... actually I'm exhausted...

[treestar]

32. It is natural human tendency to have less empathy for anyone

we passionately disagree with; she lost her job, not her life. And it sounds like it was a high paying job.

[Hello_Kitty]

39. Geez, treestar.

Isn't there a free trade thread going on somewhere where you can mock people for being concerned about outsourcing?

[saracat]

45. Wow. She is one of our own, a Democrat, which I am sure can be verified, since you know her name

and she worked for a nonprofit. Those are not usually high paying jobs. But does it really matter what her salary was? And I guess you do not understand that for some folks, the loss of a job can be the difference between life and death. Had my husband's diagnosis come just a few minths later, and if our condition doesn't improve, he would have died. And he has been looking for a job for years.And Obama's HCR would not have helped us. You do not know of what you speak with your lack of humanity. And BTW, he used to have a good paying job too.

[laughingliberal]

48. "And BTW, he used to have a good paying job too."

As did I. But we're all just a bunch of 'plants' and the economy is not really taking people down. How dare we question 'The One?'

[AngryOldDem]

57. High paying job? At a NON PROFIT?

:rofl:

I once worked at a nonprofit and my salary barely put me over the poverty line. I can guarantee that she was not making a king's ransom, CEO or no.

Just amazing, some of the comments I'm reading here.

[Dappleganger]

35. In agreement with you.

[Mimosa]

43. +1000 n/t

[CBGLuthier]

36. Mahr is a world class dick. Sometimes useful but mainly a dick.

Of course he would belittle a woman.

[Hello_Kitty]

40. I feel the same way. Plus, I'm told he gets a blowjob before every show. eom

[ecstatic]

38. Most CFOs don't get laid off to fix the bottom line

Her firing was probably more personal (bad performance). And again, college grads have a much lower unemployment rate than non-college grads (4.4% last I checked). Good luck to her.

[laughingliberal]

49. uh huh nt

[earth mom]

41. Who is ultimately responsible for the economy? Obama. Simple as that. nt

[otohara]

52. Really?

How about the American corporations who are sitting on butt loads of cash but not hiring OR they simply just ship more jobs to India, Bahrain, China....

or is your post lacking a sarcasm thingy?

[earth mom]

59. Who is going to stop them? I don't see Obama stopping them or even trying to.

Take off your rose colored glasses.

The buck stops with Obama.

[Hydra]

44. Not glad to see it

But here's a graphic example of how tenuous everyone's position is...and how wrong so many people were on DU to mock this woman's concerns.

Not that any of them seem to care. She's just a "plant." Just like the rest of us who aren't really struggling and wondering if we'll keep our heads above water, right?

[laughingliberal]

50. Spot on. All us unemployed who once had really decent jobs are just out here struggling to make...

the President look bad.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

51. I'm not blaming her. I'm not blaming Obama. And I'm not blaming the Democrats.

I'm putting the blame squarely where it belongs:

On the Republicans, Bush, and the entire corporate system.

I'm still trying to understand why this is Obama's fault.

[ProudDad]

53. Obama and most of the democrats

and ONE of the "independents" are all JUST as corporate as the republicans...

They all dance to the tune of the same master...

The only difference is that the Democrats pretend to have a velvet glove wrapping their iron fist...

While the republicans no longer even pretend that...

Same result...

Every pResident from FDR through Obama has contributed to the fleecing of the working classes by the corporate masters...

They've got you just where they want you if you continue to believe the myth that it's just the republicans...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

54. So put forth unemployment benefits were just a sham?

Small business tax breaks just a sham?

Jobs bill that got filibuster in the Senate just a sham?

Oh yeah, that's right. Democrats and Republicans are the same.

If that's the case, why are you still on DEMOCRATIC Underground??!?!?

[TheKentuckian]

56. Bush didn't extend unemployment or give out stupid fucking tax cuts?

A 30 billion dollar "jobs" program that was more stupid tax breaks and a drop in the ocean?
Essentially a placebo.

Democrats are no more willing to make structural changes than the Republicans. Both sides work to maintain the same system and that does go back to FDR.

There is no re-inflating the bubble or "proper" regulation, the system is just to laden with entropy and requires trillions in socialism to offset the downside.

[Odin2005]

58. The bashing of her was disgusting.