Today is anniversary of assassination of President John F. Kennedy ... any thoughts?

[defendandprotect]

[slackmaster]

1. It still bums me out deeply

:argh:

[derby378]

2. Oswald did it, and JFK was taken from us too soon

I'm convinced Oswald fired the shots, but I'm not convinced he paid for the bullets.

[defendandprotect]

14. Why ...

would you say that when FBI paraffin tests showed that Oswald hadn't fired

a rifle --

And Tunnheim Panel said --

"Oswald was employed by the CIA working on high level assisngments

and probably also for the FBI" --


?

[goforit]

19. Do your home work.

[derby378]

52. Already did - Oswald fired the shots

But I'm not ruling out the possibility that someone was pulling this guy's chain.

Remember how George H.W. Bush was apparently the only one who couldn't remember exactly where he was when JFK was assassinated?

[jdlh8894]

3. A bunch and then some. n/t

[Raine]

4. UGH what an awful anniversary. nt

:cry:

[Maccagirl]

5. My thoughts-more of a deeply felt anger at how we've regressed

My sincere apology to John F Kennedy for allowing his legacy, work and values to be shit upon and eroded on a daily basis.

[defendandprotect]

15. We have a bunch of liberals who were taken down during that period, probably

starting with Dag Hammarskjold at the United Nations -- and on and on --

Nice sentiments ---

[roamer65]

6. We need to know the truth about what happened in Dallas...

47 years ago today. It is time for the truth to come out.

[defendandprotect]

17. One minor advancement now is we don't have to wait until 2039

seems the Tunnheim Panel -- 1992 JFK Assassination Classified Records Act somehow

got the date changed to 2017 --

Just read that yesterday --

Of course they would have seen his employment records -- and IRS records --

The panel said --

"Oswald was employed by the CIA working on high level assignments and probably

also for the FBI" --

Thing is that day they didn't only take a president from us -- they took our "people's"

government --

[MichiganVote]

7. Every year someone finds a little bit more of Camelot to say good bye to

They were riveting, the Kennedy's. We owe them that much.

[classof56]

8. I am sad for many reasons.

Seemed like the soul of America died that day--we just didn't realize it.

RIP, JFK. We hardly knew ya!

[givemebackmycountry]

9. Yeah, I have a thought....

I stood in front of about 24 people today, and I asked them what Nov 22nd 1963 meant to them.
All but one of them looked back at me with that look you get when you talk to a dog.

Shameful, shameful.

Oh, and just as a aside?

NOT ONE OF THE SELF PROFESSED TEA BAGGER ASSHOLES KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
Real Americans, each and every one.

FuckWads.

[defendandprotect]

18. Any remembrances on MSM today ... ?

Like Earth Day this is another they'd like to bury --

[villager]

10. The coup was ultimately successful?

n/t

[defendandprotect]

22. Combined with many other ....

coups and assassinations, I'd say it did succeed in moving the right wing into

place to begin to destroy democracy --

Sovereign nations are being overtaken by corporatism -- that seems clear.

We are beginning to live the GOP's dream of a "third world America."

Only way the right wing can rise is by political violence, stolen elections, lies.

[villager]

25. Exactly so. They're willing to use violence to get what they want. We just wanna be polite.

n/t

[awoke_in_2003]

35. Once they took out MLK and RFK. nt

[reggie the dog]

44. jfk mlk rfk

in my opinion 19 years of liberal presidents were killed off

[defendandprotect]

51. True --

and then they took out even any rising liberal leadership -

the candidates we are being given to vote for are those pre-selected by TPB --

[deutsey]

11. He was one of many populares who have been killed throughout history, imo

[Bryn]

12. Last night I read all about Lee Harvey Oswald

and his dairy he wrote, his life, etc. I could see how easy for CIA to set him up to take out JFK. It doesn't matter if he acted alone or not, just that he sure did make it so much easy for CIA to control him. FBI/CIA were following him when he went to Russia. JFK himself wanted to dismantle CIA. Interesting coincidence...

[Historic NY]

13. The President of my youth will forever stay young ... We lost much that day...

our innocence and trust in government. Some say the battle lines went up on 11/22/63.

[defendandprotect]

23. It was a sharp turning point ....

in plein air violence --

and many acts of violence, coups, assassinations followed JFK's --

[MrSlayer]

16. I believe it was the day "They" stepped out of the shadows.

Change things will you? We'll see about that.

A tragedy.

[defendandprotect]

24. An appropriate description .....

The 1960 Democratic Platform which JFK ran on called for the NATIONALIZING of

the oil industry --

and JFK was also ending the oil depletion allowance --

PLUS, moving the printing of money from Federal Reserve back to Treasury --

JFK's father had served FDR well in setting up New Deal financial regulations --

he knew how the games were played -- and no doubt JFK had learned these lessons.

[roamer65]

27. John and Nitika walked away from the Cuban missile crisis...

with a realization that the world could not ever be brought to the brink of nuclear destruction again.

"They" had to put a stop to this "dangerous" vein of thought...and they did here in the USA and the USSR.

John and Nitika were soon out of power.

[defendandprotect]

28. Agree, they were moving to try to bring peace to the world ....

you also have to include a third man -- Pope John XXIII -- another peacemaker --

and liberalizing the church -- Liberation Theology -- freedom of conscience --

he was basically making the church/Vatican a democracy!

[Octafish]

36. They were the cronie warmonger insiders who wanted to overthrow FDR.

Prescott Bush was one of those Wall Street barons who approached Major Gen. Smedley Darlington Butler to lead the coup. Instead, Butler turned them in to the Feds.

As President, Kennedy stood up to these NAZI bedwetters. He said, "No!" every time the turds at State and the Pentagon counseled war. How many presidents since have said, "No!" to war?

So today, the grandsons of Prescott Bush work to phase out Social Security and empty the Treasury into the pockets of their cronie warmonger insiders bosses.

[defendandprotect]

50. What astonishes me is that so many Americans think something

somehow natural is happening in America with the rise of the right wing --

Actually, it is completely orchestrated -- mainly via violence.

[BlueDemKev]

20. The only one of our former presidents who never grew old....

John F. Kennedy: The man and his ideas will always be remembered as fresh and new.

RIP JFK. We love you and miss you. :patriot:

[goforit]

21. Can you imagine what JFK will say when GHWB crosses over?

[rainbow4321]

26. I'd prefer to think they will not run into each other

JFK in a good place, GHWB in the deep bowels of hell.

[TransitJohn]

29. We'll never see the Warren Commission Report.

;(

[Sugarcoated]

30. All I think of is that it's my sister's birthday

she passed away at 36 ten years ago. She was born the year before, November 22, 1962 . . . she was heavily into the Kennedy's, especially Jackie. She loved her.

[Octafish]

31. We've been living under some sort of Police State under war and under siege ever since.

WTF? Wars, power and profits without end for the cronie capitalist class. Reverse Robin Hood voodoo economics for the Darwinian losers Untermenschen. Stolen elections decided by a partisan Supreme Court. Penured middle class and Welfare for the Wealthy.

Yeah. Something's been wrong for 47 years now.

[Yeahyeah]

32. Wonder what it's like in a parallel dimension USA where they didn't manage to kill Kennedy.

Might actually have a democracy instead of a military industrial dictatorship.

[Octafish]

33. It's likely the warmongers who counseled Kennedy nuke the USSR also were behind his assassination.

Joint Chiefs and Allen Dulles wanted JFK to launch first strike against USSR.

[awoke_in_2003]

34. yeah, our media sucks...

this was on CNN's website today (of all days)
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/11/22/frum.honoring.reagan/index.html?hpt=T2

[1776Forever]

37. It has been a long time now and still the truth is withheld from us - I just read this today....

Take it for what you will:

http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/

by Judyth Vary Baker (Oswald's girlfriend in 1963)

.................

Will we ever know the truth?

[AmBlue]

38. I miss him still.

I miss all that he stood for. I miss his courage in the face of mighty foes. I miss his fiery passion and resounding eloquence, wielded like the sharpest of blades in defense of regular, everyday American citizens, in defense of equality, in defense of the defenseless. I loved that he didn't change his tune after he was elected. I miss his son and his beautiful wife. I still mourn for all the good he would do, and for the Presidency that was so brutally interrupted.

With his death, I lost not only my President, I lost my wistful innocence-- only five years in the making-- and my abject belief in the goodness of grown-ups, and that nothing really bad could happen to me, to my neighborhood, or to my America, the Beautiful. That November day I learned with jarring clarity that this "sweet land of liberty" can be a very scary, ugly place sometimes.

I miss Camelot.

[1776Forever]

40. The dream died that day - I know what you say is so true. Thank you that was very poignant. n/t

[reggie the dog]

45. i was born in 1979

carter left office in 81, i have been living a nightmare ever since..... at least you got to know the beautiful dream that was camelot... i sometimes cry when listening to his camelot speech with my students, where he dreams of the life one could have with one salary.... of course they killed him, he was too good to us regular people.....as martin luther king and RFK were too....they killed off the best of the liberals.... why dont us liberals have our own death squads that go about killing of neo cons???

[AmBlue]

53. Because we're better than that.

But that doesn't mean we should roll over. It means we need to fight smart, fight organized, and fight like our lives depend on it. Because they do.

What I want to know is where are our leaders now? Is there no one who will speak truth to power and lead? It's not enough to just speak it. The people of this country must be shown the way to organize the power they still possess by their sheer numbers. Martin Luther King did it. Who will do it now?

I believe this is Obama's greatest failing. The saddest thing to me is that he could still do it! If he would only stop trying to appease those that will never be appeased, speak the truth, and be willing to fight, he could lead this nation out of the abyss. We need him to pick up the torch. NOW.

[laughingliberal]

39. Still hurts. nt

[Festivito]

41. Justice is the first establishment of our Constitution. We failed it. Then the rest fails US.

That leaves us as a people, with a name, an attempt to form a more perfect union, and then, NOTHING, nothing more.

[Initech]

42. Oswald was a patsy. The real shooter was either GHW Bush himself or someone connected to the BFEE.

[JDPriestly]

43. The assassination of Kennedy changed our nation.

The assassins stole our innocence, our trust in our own goodness.

The integrity of our nation was lost on November 22, 1963. We will not regain it until we find out what really happened -- every detail.

[reggie the dog]

46. if only wikileaks could leak out the documents

[defendandprotect]

49. Especially Oswald's employment records ....

Obviously, the Tunnheim Panel saw them --

"Oswald was employed by the CIA working on high level assignments

and probably also for the FBI."

[Raksha]

47. I agree. I remember that day very well.

I don't have anything to add to this thread, except that it's all been downhill from there.

[defendandprotect]

48. Reminder .... as Jack Ruby told Earl Warren ... "the whole system of government will change" ....

Not only did Jack Ruby tell us that --

but John Mitchell ecoed it -- "America is going to go so far to the right it will

make your head spin."

and Dick Cheney -- "We create the reality and the rest of you live it."


There's only one way the right wing can rise and that's via violence, stolen elections

and lies.

We lost pretty much everything that day -- our president, our "people's" government,

the myth of a free press ....