What Is Kyl Trying To Prove?.......

[global1]

Doesn't he see realize that he is putting this country in jeopardy. Doesn't he realize that his holding up of this treaty will make the Repugs look bad even to those that have supported them up to this point. Doesn't he realize that if the Repugs ever get back into power that whomever the Repug president would be will not be trusted by any of our foreign friends.

This is a no win proposition for Kyl and the Repugs.

Obama needs more than ever to use his bully pulpit and come down hard on Kyl and the Repugs on the stonewalling of this treaty. If I were Obama I would address the nation from the oval office and look right into the camera and tell the American public how Kyl and the Repugs are putting us in peril.

I wouldn't hold back Mr. President. Your job is to protect the American people and if you have to step on some people or their feelings on this - that is what we elected you to do.

This is not a laughing matter. This is real serious business that Kyl and the Repugs are playing politics with. They don't have a leg to stand on on this matter.

It is time to put a stop to the petty political games that the Repugs are playing.

[Mz Pip]

1. Can't have a win for Obama

Partisanship at its most obvious and sickening.

[KharmaTrain]

13. And It's Been Working

Look at how many people (even around here) think this administration has done nothing. It's a perception spread by the right wing media that's taken root to make President Obama look inept and ineffective. This is just another part of the game as if the treaty doesn't pass then the rushpublicans will surely claim he's weak on defense and foreign policy. The game always changes...it's not Kyl or the GOTB obstruction, it's Obama not being "bipartisan" enough.

[Orrex]

2. He's trying to prove that he's an asshole. A wasted effort, since it was never in doubt.

[hobbit709]

11. Bingo!

[Ozymanithrax]

3. Kyl is an operative in a legal coup d'etat...

Destroy the President, destroy the Democrats. It doesn't matter how bad it is for the country. Bringing Republicans back into full power is the only goal. Simpson is part of it. Remember his cackeling about what would happen when we hit the debt ceiling.

This is about power, about a legal coup d'etat. Another word for his is Constitutional Crises.

[moondust]

22. As was Kenneth Starr. n/t

[NRaleighLiberal]

4. For one thing, he is in desperate need of a vowel!

:rofl:

sorry...couldn't resist. What a party - one lacks a vowel, another a chin, and another a normal skin tone. Too tired and outraged about too many things to give you the serious answer you deserve for your question....

[karynnj]

10. You forget the little jingle grade school kids learn - aeiou and SOMETIMES Y

There are, of course many things Kyl can and should be blasted for, including this appalling bit of partisanship. I have NEVER seen video of Lugar as angry at anyone as he is at this stunt by Kyl.

[immoderate]

17. We could shorten the vowel sound so it's Senator "Kill"

--imm

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. We are in the midst of the worst Constitutional Crisis since 2000

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9613965

And they are not trying to prove a thing. They are trying to bring down the LEGALLY ELECTED government.

It will get VERY UGLY... and this is not a petty political game... it is a power grab.

Oh and incidentally, see that word bandied about... conspiracy... this may (will likely) fit the legal definition.

By the way, as much as I care about the Fourth Amendment, in a year... worst case... all this discussion will be navel grazing.

[moondust]

6. That he's a sick hegemonist?

If you were Russia would you trust the U.S. knowing that some U.S. politicians are willing to risk a nuclear catastrophe in their unquenchable lust for power and wealth? And that the U.S. electorate is probably crazy enough to elect one of those hegemonists to the highest office in the land where they would have their finger on the button?

[flamingdem]

21. The world will lose faith and we'll lose prestige, power, and the US Dollar will no longer reign nt

[Loudmxr]

7. When I read the headline at this hour I thought "he was trying a hip hop dance on DWTS"

Oh!! Senator Kyl!! Not Kyle on DWTS.


Kyl wants Obama to look bad. Kyle just wanted to see if the Europeans "got" American dancing. Because they sure don't understand country dancing.

At this hour you gotta stay with the current meme.

[no_hypocrisy]

8. Kyl reminds me of a character that would have been in "Dr. Strangelove".

A parody/cartoon governmental figure whose words and actions eventually destroy the country and the world.

[AlabamaLibrul]

9. He never got a chance to use his fallout shelter? n/t

[karynnj]

12. I agree with all you say, but think that maybe Obama and Lugar together would be even better

Lugar is a gentleman, a responsible and serious statesman and Senator. He should be able to reach Republicans. He has already spoken out - with an anger that is totally different than his usual very polite, understated manner. If there is anyone who could appeal to whatever embers of conscience exists in Republican Senators, it has to be Lugar.

[NuclearDem]

16. Remember Lugar and then-Senator Obama worked on the nuclear issue with Russia together

Even though he's a Republican, I respect Lugar more than just about any other Senator. Makes me proud to be a Hoosier.

[karynnj]

20. Yes he did - and Lugar has worked on the issue likely since

Obama was in college!

I like to watch the SFRC and Lugar has always impressed me by both his intelligence and his genial, kind personality. I was impressed in the 2005 and 2006 hearings, that he was incredibly reasonable in allowing good questioning by Democrats, especially Kerry, to continue slightly over time - and then noting he did so "because it was productive. Although I liked the Democrats being in control, I thought Lugar ran the committee better than Biden did. Kerry, with his courteous demeanor, is more similar to Lugar, but far more dynamic. It is interesting how infrequently Kerry's and Lugar's opening statements disagree.



I was a Hoosier for the first 22 years of life.

[Still a Democrat]

14. They see the election results as a mandate for not cooperating

They are there to stop evil washing over the country, as they see it. They are not there to cooperate, find common ground, and make progress where it can be made, even where they happen to agree.

They are terrified of how any act of civility and common sense will be viewed by the teabaggers.

[emulatorloo]

15. Kyl trying to prove? That Obama is a "soviet spy" or some crazy wingnut shit.

That will appeal to the nutty base, and Republicans can run ATTACK ads on Dems who voted to ratify.

This is about the most dangerous thing they have done. Calling my Repub senator and tell him to STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH NATIONAL SECURITY>

[Winterblues]

18. Kyl got the short straw, if it wasn't him it would be another Republican

They have too much invested in proving a black man is unable to lead our country..They must stop anything and everything that comes from the Administration.. They MUST...IMO it is going to backfire on them "Big Time" but in the mean time this is what we get...When the backfire happens there will be a GOP route....They are sinking into complete insanity driven by their hatreds and eventually Americans are going to understand this FACT.

[flamingdem]

19. We need to put him in a ring with Vladimir Putin and sit back and watch nt