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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:12 AM Original message |
TSA updated rules for people refusing pat down |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. Boy, if they are going to start shutting down terminals |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yup. Even longer if they have a gun or a knife. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yep. But letting people refuse without threat of a fine is a tiny step in the right direction. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yes, at least now someone can leave |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. I don't believe the fine would withstand a court challenge |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. It was in place because of a court challenge. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. But it is all kabuki theater. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Hmmmmmmmmmm |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. The TSA resorts to guilt and peer pressure. |
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Ted_White (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
6. Unreal. What a deceitful tactic. They know damn well that they aren't refusing |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
7. Why not save trouble |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
8. The idea is to make this person The World's Worst Person |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
9. It just gets better and better all the time. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. Let me guess: and when they shut down the terminal and send everyone outside |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. I hope this decimates airline profits and wreaks havoc on the entire system. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Which will be followed |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:02 AM Response to Original message |
12. Well, well, we are starting to see a roll back |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I bet TSA got worried becuase of the upcoming opt out day, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. They must have intel, no pun... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
16. Glad they can leave without a fine or having names/info taken down. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
18. They just keep asking for more outrage, don't they? I hope they keep |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. While reform in the agency is needed |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I did not say that. Not sure why you would think I did. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. What do you think disbanding means in real policy speak? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. There are more out there that could kill me, and indeed did kill |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Disbanding, eliminate, defund, remove, go back to where we |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You mean the time I brought a six inch blade |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Was that during the Clinton administration? If so, seems they |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Yes, that was the Clinton Administration... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. From an actuarial point of view, you are far more at risk of death or serious injury getting onto |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Tsa is now expandinf |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I agree and have not really complained about screening until recently |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 03:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Good question, I've been asking it forever also. And I've been pointing |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. U.S. policy-makers' arrogance and hubris is nowhere more amply |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. 'The best way to get rid of an enemy is to make him a friend'. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I got fooled into thinking Obama would be my generation's Lincoln. He is not |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. What is the track record for the TSA? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. The shoe bomber came from a European airport |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. The TSA doesn't have a presence outside of the US. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I also realize why we need security |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Exactly, we could spend it far better. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. What we need as a country is to have an ADULT conversation |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 05:17 AM Response to Original message |
20. The TSA once again shows it has ZERO respect for Freedom and Liberty |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I will ask you the same question I asked Sabrina above |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. knee jerk is the TSA, DHS, the unPATRIOTic Act, MCA, etc |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. So since you are for going for the ante |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. They won't do better if they're allowed to act in that manner |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You are right, they will be worst |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I am an adult who wants to live in the Land of the Free and the Brave |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. I was wondering if changes would be made before National Opt-Out Day tomorrow |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
29. Man, talk about making this shit up as you go along! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. Does this mean the "don't touch my junk" guy is off the hook? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. this guy beat the system-- |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
49. So he claims. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 03:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
62. There is audio he recorded on his iPhone |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I sort of doubt the story. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Did you listen to the audio? It's real enough. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Were for these full body scanners during the Bush administrion? |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
35. "Springtime For Airport Security...." |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. Refund their money & escort them from the building...simple |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I take it you are a frequent flyer |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. And that is the other knee jerk extreme |
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Caretha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Now that is the |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-23-10 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
45. Lot's of DU'ers don't Realize...THE RULES HAVE CHANGED...we are on HIGHT ALERT |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #45 |
63. "Hight Alert?" "Fuly Monty"? |
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Primitive Mind (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
59. The scanning and groping is worthless |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-24-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Add profiling and you got the Israeli system |
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