Everybody thinks Sarah is a dead horse because she's nuts, stupid & bull-headed.

[Jackpine Radical]

Reagan & Bush II proved that nuts & stupid are no barriers to the White House. And both also proved that the right is perfectly happy to put up dolts as frontmen, with craftier and more sinister forces running things behind the scenes.

That leaves bull-headed as a barrier. But I don't think it holds any water either. All they have to do is take Sarah down to the basement of the White House & show her the missing parts of the Zapruder film and then explain a couple of other facts about the CIA to her, and she will suddenly decide that "going rogue" is for elephants, not for mama grizzlies.

If the economy remains in the shitter through 2012, and I fully expect it to, the corporate media will push Sarah as the Tea Party outsider riding her moose into DC to clean house. It would be an easy PR sell. All they have to do is carefully manage and restrict all her contacts with the press (like they had to do with Bush II), and stage softball press conferences with pre-planned questions & scripted answers. There will either be no debates, or she will come like Bush did, with a third boob growing out of her back and a little invisible earepiece.

[Hawkowl]

1. +1000

I can't agree more! I'm absolutely flabbergasted by the amount of posters on DU who ROFL at this woman! Apparently they don't remember W. or Reagan, two dumb as a bag of hammer sock puppets.

People should be aware by now, that the president is nothing more than a figure head who is controlled by corporations, specifically Wall Street. All that is required is that they take orders and appoint whomever they are told to. If you can make a good speech and appear sincere like Obama, so much the better for keeping the people in line. If Palin is the most popular, charismatic candidate for the Rethuglicans and is willing to be bought off by the banksters, you'd better bet your ass she has more than an even shot at becoming President.

[roguevalley]

35. the scrutiny of a pres. race will kill her. She says today we have to

stand by our allies in Korea, both north and south. Beginning of the end.

[groovedaddy]

2. People in Kentucky were saying the same thing about Rand Paul. I consistently reminded them

that Kentucky had re-elected Jim Bunning when he was a babbling idiot. I don't like to think of "President Palin" and will do what I can to make sure it doesn't happen BUT, American political consciousness being what it is, anything is possible.

[leftstreet]

5. wrong spot

[Speck Tater]

3. If she wins it will be the end of the presidency.

From that point on the office of President of the United States will be a powerless figurehead and the country will be run from behind the scenes by the ruling elite. After that it won't matter who gets elected president. The office will have become meaningless and the takeover by the ruling elite will have been completed.

[leftstreet]

11. You thought it was still viable when that Bush heir was in office?

:shrug:

[Vinca]

4. The woman is dumb as a stump, but when you consider Shrub

served 2 terms, she can probably win. You don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[EFerrari]

10. Republicans love dumb. They think it's one of the 7 Virtues. n/t

[Phentex]

12. That it exactly...

I heard somewhat sane people talk about how wonderful she was (at first!) and I could not believe my ears. These same people now think she's an idiot but what the hell took em so long?!

[DeschutesRiver]

24. True about Bush, but though dumb as a board, he was from Republican royalty, ie the Bush family

Sarah Palin, otoh, the candidate who brags that she is "one of them" is getting rejected by a lot of her former supporters. She is almost reminding them too much of themselves, or their shitty neighbors, or the jerk woman down the street with a fat ego, mean streak and no brains behind it...and some appear to have decided that maybe they don't want someone who is "one of them" in charge of "them".

I'm seeing it happen on a ton of bbs/forums - it is quite funny. Sarah is toast, and she may be the only one left that doesn't realize it yet.

[Initech]

6. George Carlin once said there's three types of people:

- People who are stupid
- People who are full of shit
- People who are fucking nuts!

Sarah Palin is all 3!!!

[Vinca]

13. I really miss George Carlin.

[EFerrari]

7. Armageddon Spice probably can't even clean out her glove compartment

but that's it in a nutshell. They'd run her in a heartbeat and all we'll hear is how wonderful it is that a woman can be president.

[Stevenmarc]

8. "Nuts, stupid & bull-headed" are much admired qualities for America's Culture of the Mediocre

[RainDog]

9. never underestimate the stupidity of the American people when it comes to politics n/t

[AndrewP]

14. x1000

[leftstreet]

15. Were they stupid when they gave Obama and the Democrats a mandate?

:shrug:

[RainDog]

19. I don't believe my statement addressed that...

because, to note that Americans can be pretty stupid in regard to politics doesn't mean they are ALWAYS stupid.

personally, I wouldn't call the Democratic mandate stupidity. At this point, I'd call it hope, a desire to be able to have some hope that our political system was not totally corrupted. I'd call it desperation - looking for something that wasn't Republican or DLC (since Hillary was so closely identified with the same.)

But the election of Reagan was an example of stupidity, imo. It was an election that was predicated on the desire to wave a big dick in the world after the Iran hostage crisis showed Americans they weren't the only people in the world who had grievances and ways to make the powerful notice them.

All the while, those northern union guys voting for Reagan were getting their unions busted, their jobs taken away - but they got to feel like badasses when a fake cowboy and actor, not soldier, during WW2 opened his idiotic mouth.

Then there's the religious idiocracy of the U.S., something that especially expresses itself in the south, and it's no wonder that we have such shitty government when half the nation is too stupid to understand the difference between science and myth.

Other western democracies that also happen to have better representation for the middle class and poor, btw, don't have that same level of idiocracy. Maybe there's a correlation.

The selection of Bush was sleazy judicial bullshit. That moment was the one when I no longer held any respect for the Supreme Court of this nation - when, to me, it showed its utter corruption.

The entire Bush presidency was a process through which I gave up any respect for the law of the land or this nation as a place that I could be proud of. His re-election was a consequence of the war - as he told Mickey Hershkowitz - start a war and you'll get a second term. Americans do not unseat presidents during times of war, generally.

That so many of them backed the Iraq war, tho, was an example of the stupidity of the American people.

That tea baggers showed up to protest health care was an example of stupidity, to me.

That Americans think private corporations have their best interests at heart, or that they are necessarily more efficient than govt. is an example of stupidity, to me.

ymmv.

[Jackpine Radical]

22. I think a good deal of the stupidity in our populace

is directly traceable to their constant immersion in the officially sanctioned National Delusional System as fed to them by the corporate media. People don't do well at maintaining their own belief systems in the face of apparently overwhelming (albeit incorrect) opposition. Old Solomon Asch did some interesting social psychological studies along those lines 50 years or so ago.

[treestar]

16. Reagan and Bush II were still somewhat Presidential

Americans are shallow like that. A first woman President just can't look like Palin. With her voice and her glasses and her "sexiness" she does not come off as Presidential. Just proves Reagan was not the bottom of the barrel.

[immoderate]

18. Think "spokesmodel." It's what the people want.

With Bush and Reagan it wasn't acknowledged. But we've grown up. :)

--imm

[Orsino]

17. But her money ain't old enough.

She is not another Bush

[Jackpine Radical]

23. That doesn't matter.

Hell, Reagan wasn't from old money, nor Nixon before him. All that matters is that she be photogenic and controllable. Given her greed and narcissism, she will suit the purposes of the Powers Behind the Throne quite nicely.

[Orsino]

30. It matters.

Old money would have excused all her clownery thus far (would more likely have prevented it and/or hushed it up), and her supporters wouldn't have to feel so damned defensive. No, she has descended to stardom on the same level as a Paris Hilton, handicapped by already being married with kids, which prevents her from being enough of a sex symbol.

[Jackpine Radical]

31. You bring something to mind--the old Cowboy/Yankee theory.

This notion was current in the '70's, popularized by Carl Oglesby and Kirkpatrick Sale.


Oglesby, Carl. The Yankee and Cowboy War: Conspiracies from Dallas to Watergate. Kansas City: Sheed Andrews and McMeel, 1976. 355 pages.

Two books in NameBase, "Yankee and Cowboy War" by Carl Oglesby and "Power Shift" by Kirkpatrick Sale, are based on a single premise -- that there has been a more-or-less conscious shift in the source of American ruling-class power during the postwar period. The Southern Rim (roughly the states or portions of states south of a line drawn across the country from North Carolina to just north of San Francisco) is challenging the traditional control of the Eastern Establishment (Chicago, New York, Boston, and points between). Sale uses this hook to analyze economic and electoral changes, while Oglesby develops a rough handle to link the JFK assassination and Watergate. Both books are solid and valuable, although this pet premise isn't necessary to either.
Oglesby is perhaps the most capable theorist and prose stylist to emerge out of the New Left. Though I agree that Dallas and Watergate involved conspiracy and cover-up at some level, I'm not convinced that the conspirators are agents of a conscious struggle between Yankees and Cowboys. The book is essential despite this, and offers excellent commentary on Reinhard Gehlen, the Bay of Pigs, the Howard Hughes connection, the plane crash that killed Dorothy Hunt, and James McCord as a probable double agent. -- D.Brandt
ISBN 0-8362-0688-6

According to this model, Sarah is a Cowboy (cowgirl).

[Orsino]

32. I think that's applicable.

The myth of Sarah Palin as a rugged, outdoorsy survivalist has a lot in common with the all-hat/no-cattle Republican cowboys. If she had either the old money that backed Bushes or the romantic star power (and ability to speak English) of a Reagan, she could qualify. And Penis still trumps Pretty in today's America.

The faux-cowgirl image alone isn't going to cut it, IMO.

[bigtree]

20. I don't think that's exactly the calculation folks are using

Palin will pull the already divided republican party (and candidates) to the far right. Hell, republican primary voters will be far right. That's why she stands the best chance of winning their primary. That should turn off the independents who advantaged President Obama in the last presidential election from voting republican.

[KamaAina]

21. Don't forget that she slept with her business partner

Oh, I forgot, IOKIYAR. :eyes:

[Arugula Latte]

25. Normally I think she'd have a shot, but

I've never seen anyone so openly hated by women. It's a frequent topic of conversation, how annoying she is and how horrible and when is she going to go away and shut the fuck up. Even my (one and only) Republican friend voted for Obama, all because of Palin. She will rally people to vote -- against her.

[tjwash]

26. Americans in general tend to be nuts, stupid & bull-headed.

What do you the main reason was, that bush was in office for 8 years? Enough people voted for "the guy they would most like to have a beer with," for the powers behind the throne to steal the first election, and rig the second one.

[Jackpine Radical]

27. That's pretty much my point.

No matter what she does, all she needs is for the Chatterati to keep telling us how wonderful her performance was.

[tjwash]

34. She doesn't come off as genuine enough...not that they are not trying.

They are doing the whole reality show thing right now to try and correct that, but its failing, mainly because she really does not have that whole "genuine wholesome american" feel about her. Everything about her seems forced and fake, and the sheeple really don't like that. They like their forced sincerity not seeming so fake.

I think their first choice for figurehead will probably be huckabee. He's dumb as dirt, but he is genuinely clueless to the point where he can give speeches about the sanctity of life and really act like he honestly believes what he is saying, while simultaneously signing legislation in to place that sends other peoples children for more wars, and backs expansions to the death penalty.

[pamela]

28. President Palin

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I think it could happen and it scares the shit out of me. I think folks forget what a joke Reagan was before he was elected. I still think a Palin presidency is unlikely but... it's not impossible.

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[Desertrose]

29. Make that "sane people" think Sarah is a dead horse

but I agree...crazy, nuts & stupid IS no barrier to power anymore.....sadly.As you said W & Ronnie are proof of that.

[Jackpine Radical]

33. All you have to do is look at the whole Republican gallery of fools

to see what the scary potentials are for amathiocracy. (I just made that word up, by the way, from the Greek word "amathes," unlearned.)