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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:14 PM
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So South Korea fired first
Why am I not surprised?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:15 PM
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1. Source?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:18 PM
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4. Olbermann
and his guest.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:20 PM
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8. So south korea hit north korean ary positions first?
I hope this takes off, you are aware radar telemetry can track artillery exchanges. This aint' mihop, it shows up on tape.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:16 PM
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2. First I heard of that.
Link?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:18 PM
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3. What?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:19 PM
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5. Link from non pravda commondreams source please(nt)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:20 PM
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7. Apparently South Korea was on some training exercise
and fired and the North Koreans retaliated.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:21 PM
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9. So they killed people in response to a training excersice, got it
you know how many soviet training exercises there were in the cold war?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 09:01 PM
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20. One, it was an exercise. Two, they fired south.
Retaliation, my ass.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:19 PM
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6. I would be VERY surprised if that were true. nt
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:21 PM
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10. NPR said SK was holding war games and NK called that provocation
I did not see Olbermann tonight. Did his guest say SK actually fired first?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:22 PM
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13. KO said that South Korea fired first
His guest spoke about the exercises (war games).
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:24 PM
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14. Link, KO is not news, he is an showbiz guy, like lenno. Now the bbc, afp, ap, cbc, thompson reuters
cna (china's network) are news. I would like to see a link supporting this statement.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:21 PM
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11. Two things
1.- Scheduled exercises firing towards the West.

2.- They informed N. Korea before they were to start...

Source BBC on NPR today.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:21 PM
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12. Whether they "fired first" or not, I'd like to know what you mean by that "Why am I not surprised?"
crack? What are you trying to imply with that statement?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:24 PM
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15. They were doing wargames
apparently NK wanted to play, too
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Duckhunter935 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:26 PM
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16. Fired out to sea
They did not fire at the north. They also informed the north or the exercise.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:35 PM
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18. Apparently NK has claimed that bit of sea for themselves...
...and that's why they're claiming SK fired at them first.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:31 PM
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17. Keith had a good quote at the beginning.
Kim Jong-Il and his son, Seriously Il.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:58 PM
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19. How to provoke a hair-trigger paranoid nation
S.Korea says it test-fired in area before N.Korea firing

SEOUL | Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:27am EST

Nov 23 (Reuters) - South Korea said it was conducting regular military drills off the west coast before North Korea started firing dozens of shells, but that its firing exercises did not aim to the North.

"We were conducting usual military drills and our test shots were aimed toward the west, not the north," a South Korean military official said.

North Korea said on Tuesday that Seoul had initiated firing of shells, prompting it to take an instant military action.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE6AM05P20101123
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