My daughter's friend got the wholeTSA treatment cuz of her bra!

[K8-EEE]

LADIES-- leave the underwires in the check in bags. She got nukes AND felt up because the underwire set some damn thing off,what bullshit. My daughter just went through normal metal detector/shoes off security, but the guy in front of her got singled out.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

1. my father in law wasn't wearing underwear when they told him to take off his pant's belt!

so the whole security area got a full frontal and he got carted off like a prisoner. This man is in his 90s!

[FedUpWithIt All]

3. WTF!

This is getting a little scary. I had stayed out of the conversations because i fly very rarely. But the treatment, in the stories being told, is beyond what could even be necessary and certainly beyond acceptable.

I am dreadfully sorry for your FIL. :-(

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. This was at Denver!

[Liberty Belle]

5. He should sue them. At the very least they could take someone like that

into a private area that is not in public view.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

27. it was a disgrace

[suffragette]

32. That's terrible

I searched and ACLU has a report form for abuses.
Do you think he would fill it out?

https://secure.aclu.org/site/SSurvey?ACTION_REQUIRED=URI_ACTION_USER_REQUESTS&SURVEY_ID=1440

[Rosa Luxemburg]

38. Thanks I will suggest that he follows this through

[Ilsa]

41. Agents shouldnt assume everyone wears underwear.

I don't always wear panties, and I've known plenty of people that consider underwear optional.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

2. I have an artificial ankle

and that is a guarantee that my vagina and breasts are fair game to some dip-shitty moran working for the TSA. (They will not keeping this to airports if they are not stopped).

I get singled out to be sexually molested because I have a medical condition. Fuck them. :mad:

[pnwmom]

11. Your breasts can be patted down but they're not going up your vagina.

Really.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

12. That's coming...

Logic tells me they will be up in our vaginas and rectums next. All it will take it some crazy son of a bitch putting something he thinks maybe explosive up his bum and they have you bent over. But I know you are cool with this and trust their judgement because you want to feel safe.

[adamuu]

15. prostate screenings reduce the medical cost arc... n/t

[Roland99]

22. Really?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9604349&mesg_id=9604881

[_ed_]

36. Is that you, Michael Chertoff?

How much did you score on this deal, anyway. Isn't it great that you have so-called liberals backing you up?

[Mimosa]

4. All my bras are underwire: I'm a natural DD. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. I use SPORT bras

there is are several rasons for that... and they will be problematic for OTHER reasons.

[sabrina 1]

8. Lol, well then, maybe you should consider

joining the nofly movement. I think the sooner we do it, and the larger the numbers, the sooner we can end this insanity. Here is a link to one site that is urging people not to fly unless absolutely necessary:

We Won't Fly

[TorchTheWitch]

9. most underwire bras these days aren't metal

But hard plastic. They might have started this change because of metal detectors but also because of issues of rust... and maybe issues of expense. Some bra companies still use the metal or plastic coated metal and maybe only in certain styles where the thicker and bigger hard plastic ones wouldn't work. Plenty of non-metal underwire bras can be obtained though.

I'm not getting why a metal pants zipper wouldn't set off the metal detector yet metal underwires would especially the big heavy metal zippers on the average pair of jeans... that's a lot more metal than the underwires. Or maybe it's the combination of metal zippers AND the underwires that makes enough metal to make the detector react? That's a ridiculously now level of metal to be setting off the detector... they need to dial down the sensativity of the detectors if this is the case.

[Iris]

25. I've noticed that some are more wired than others.

I have a certain style I wear when I fly. I went through a version of the pat down because I wore an underwire that included wires on the side, so ever since then, I wear a bra that only has underwire in the cups.

I've also been through the full body scanner twice over the summer at the Atlanta airport. I was wearing the less-wired underwire and had no problems.

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[Glassunion]

33. Wanna come over to my house and play TSA?

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Why I keep saying this is NOT security

this is theater and it gotta go...

It is NOT making us safer.

Now here is a real boy scout with a real threat... not that you will find this boy scout at the local airport...

http://www.lakewyliepilot.com/2010/11/23/931262/california-man-pleads-not-guilty.html

[mwb970]

14. What would you say if we didn't scan people and then there was a bomb?

Please tell me you would not criticize the TSA for "not doing enough".

It occurs to me that there are a few horror stories that we keep hearing, but that millions of scans have proceeded without incident. The trouble is, that isn't news. The bad events are news. So, all we hear about are the bad events. So, we overreact to the situation, sometimes even writing things like "it is NOT making us safer", which is patently false.

Sorry, I don't get it. You want safety, you pay the price.

[TBF]

18. What happens if you walk down the street and a bomb

goes off in a trash can?

You didn't HAVE to walk down that street. You could've stayed home. Should we put the damned scanners on every street corner?

I need to buy stock in these things. Whoops, except I don't have a portfolio. OK, you rich people should buy stock in them. Oh? Yes, you're already on that.
Of course.

[mwb970]

19. What a strange post.

Your analogy does not make sense to me. Why is a street like an airplane?

"You rich people"? Do you mean me? I'm 61, unemployed for six years, draining my savings fast. Where did you get the idea that I was "rich"?

Actually, don't bother responding to this post, because I'm done with this conversation. Have a nice day! :)

[TBF]

20. If you don't understand the profit motive

(or pretend not to) there's not much more to explain. March on good citizen.

[uncommon]

24. The thing is, something bad can happen anywhere, not just on a plane.

Oklahoma City? Mumbai?

Where do we say enough is enough and stop living in fear? There are bad people in the world, and sometimes they will kill people. That's no reason to treat ordinary people going about their business like criminals.

[Roland99]

23. You can be assured Michael Chertoff did buy stock, though

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. Given foreign airports are ditching these machines for being ineffective.

But I am an adult and understand that THESE machines give you the illusion. Also you know where the next breach will come? Google up preferred shipper program.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Seld delete

[Glassunion]

34. I would not criticize them one bit.

And it is not making us safer. It is a reaction to the Christmas bomber last year. Tell me how the new scanners would have caught the Christamas bomber?

[LWolf]

35. Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.

Deserves repeating, doesn't it? Franklin was right.

I value privacy, dignity, and respect.

[_ed_]

37. "Those who would sacrifice their liberty for a little safety

lose both and deserve neither."

[guardian]

39. You want safety, you pay the price.

NOT SAFETY AT ANY PRICE! They've already gone too far.

[TBF]

17. Profitable theatre at that ... and you are exactly right. nt

[BlueIris]

10. Yeah, I learned that underwire is a no go in airports back in 2003.

The year before I stopped flying, with no plans to resume the activity.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

13. So what happens to people with genital piercings?

Not that I have any, I'm just askin'.

[katnapped]

21. An invitation to invasion

Since you must be hiding something in there!

[Sedona]

16. What happens with a mouth full of braces?

just asking too

[Dash87]

40. 'Take your teeth off!'

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