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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 04:51 PM
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a few things from the near past Re: TSA and Patriot Act-can you say "Karl Rove"?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A37480-2004Jul8.html
House GOP Defends Patriot Act Powers
Partisan Rancor High as Plan to Soften Anti-Terror Law Is Defeated

House Republicans, under strong pressure from the White House, narrowly defeated an effort yesterday to water down the Bush administration's signature law to combat domestic terrorism.
By a 210 to 210 tie vote that GOP leaders prolonged for 23 tumultuous minutes while they corralled dissident members, the House rejected a proposed change to the USA Patriot Act that would have barred the Justice Department from searching bookstore and library records. White House officials, citing the nearly three-year-old law's importance as an anti-terrorism tool, warned that an attempt to weaken it would be vetoed.

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-03-07/politics/patriot.act_1_patriot-act-renewal-controversial-provisions?_s=PM:POLITICS

Congress on Tuesday renewed controversial provisions of the USA Patriot Act, the 2001 law passed weeks after the September 11 attacks to help the government investigate and capture possible terrorists.

The approval in the House of Representatives, by a vote of 280-138, sent the measure to President Bush for his signature.

The Senate last week voted 89-10 to approve the compromise package, which covers 16 provisions in the act that are set to expire on March 10

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/09/us/nation-war-liberty-security-republicans-want-terrorism-law-made-permanent.html

When it passed in October 2001, moderates and civil libertarians in Congress agreed to support it only by making many critical provisions temporary. Those provisions will expire, or ''sunset,'' at the end of 2005 unless Congress re-authorizes them.

But Republicans in the Senate in recent days have discussed a proposal, written by Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, that would repeal the sunset provisions and make the law's new powers permanent, officials said. Republicans may seek to move on the proposal this week by trying to attaching it to another antiterrorism bill that would make it easier for the government to use secret surveillance warrants against ''lone wolf'' terrorism suspects.


And,Mind you-this is how it is all being displayed to the public

http://thatsmycongress.com/index.php/2010/02/26/house-democrats-sneak-through-patriot-act-vote/

House Democrats Sneak Through Patriot Act Vote
Posted on February 26 2010 by Congress Watcher .Yesterday evening, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to extend the Patriot Act, a law that violates the Fourth Amendment right of all people within the USA to be protected from unreasonable search and seizure. The Patriot Act grants extraordinary government powers to spy on Americans’ private lives, grabbing records of their communications, commercial activities, and even checking on which library books we’re reading. The law makes it crime for anyone conscripted into aiding these government spying programs to tell people that they’re being spied on either – they’re required by law to lie, and pretend nothing happened instead.

Last year, the judiciary committees of the Senate and House attempted to draft reforms of these kinds of terrible abuses. The reforms were weak, but a small step in the right direction. However, the Patriot Act extension passed this week by the House and Senate contains none of those reforms. In fact, the Patriot Act extension just passed by Congress has no reforms at all.

Let’s say that you want to go find out about this vote. You want to know whether your U.S. Representative voted to extend one of the worst laws passed under George W. Bush, a law that was supposed to expire years ago. You would go to the Library of Congress legislative archive and look for the roll call vote, right? The funny thing about this particular roll call vote is that you’d have the devil of a time finding it.

That’s because congressional Democratic leadership arranged for the vote to be held not for a stand alone bill, but for an agreement to a Senate amendment to the Medicare Physician Payment Reform Act. So, if you heard the news of a Patriot Act vote, and went looking for the roll call, you wouldn’t find it. You’d see roll call # 67 for this year, but would reasonably conclude that the vote is thoroughly unrelated to the Patriot Act. If you hadn’t heard of the Patriot Act extension, and just wanted to see what legislation had been voted on yesterday, you would come away still ignorant of what the House of Representatives had actually done.

The reason that the roll call vote in the House took place in this fashion is that Senate Democratic leadership wanted to extend the Patriot Act without any roll call vote at all, and without any debate. The House Democratic leadership was only too happy to go along with the game of camouflaging the Patriot Act extension vote.

The fact that the Democratic leadership of both the House and Senate chose this legislative approach indicates that they know that extension of the Patriot Act without any reforms is highly unpopular among their constituents. If they were proud of the vote, they would work to make it obvious. They’d publicize it. This Patriot Act extension is a piece of legislation that congressional Democrats clearly feel ashamed about, though most of them voted in favor of it anyway.

Yesterday, 97 members of the House of Representatives, 87 Democrats and 10 Republicans, voted against the reformless Patriot Act extension. 20 members, 5 Democrats and 15 Republicans, abstained. 315 members, 162 Democrats and 153 Republicans, voted in favor of extending the Patriot Act without any reforms.

Yes, more Democrats than Republicans voted for this concealed maneuver to perpetuate the abuses of the Patriot Act. Is that what Democratic voters thought they were getting back in the election of 2008?



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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 05:16 PM
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1. I had no idea. This really hurts. Punk leaders. Criminals. I am ticked.
Edited on Wed Nov-24-10 05:17 PM by peacetalksforall
Russ Feingold was the only Senator to vote against Patriot Act 1. Now he's gone from the Senate.

Coup after coup after coup.

And two? days before the Thanksgiving travel rush they pull this one out of their hat?

Our leaders are nearly all phonies.

The only ones who are trustworthy are hidden in the shadows while the spotlight sis aimed on the 'joiners'.

I would say the B Group people and their satellite organizations own us. Everyday it is more obvious.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:46 PM
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2. and The Liberals control the media...riiiiggghhhtttt
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