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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 06:21 PM
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TSA incompetence as far as all the crap they miss in bags is more dangerous than people trying to...
sneak stuff in on their person.

I once had my bags searched and they took a 1 and 1/2in in diameter snow globe that my daughter bought with her allowance. It was clearly below the liquid limit, but they said because it wasn't marked we could not take it. I was pissed and actually went back to go get it and check it, but they wouldn't give it back, and said once its in the garbage its gone.

Whats ironic is the fact that their was a much larger snowglobe in the same bag that they searched and they let me take it...lol. They miss tons of stuff in bags.

All the bad guys need to do is go in a large group, the odds are that most of them will get through regular security, even if one or two get additional screening, they could get on with prohibited items.

The groping and naked scanners are pointless when they are not used on everyone. And if they used them on everyone the backlash would be worse than it is now.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 06:49 PM
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1. Just add it to the piles of shit they steal every day.
You don't really think those laptops and other valuables are being stolen off the baggage belts.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 06:50 PM
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2. When I leave home, I rarely take my 3oz/qt baggie out of my bag
On the way home, I always have to.

The front they put up is so phony and then there are a few who are on a power trip.

Speaking of the 3oz baggie, I left home with it in my bag, when I was leaving for my return trip, they made me pull it out, then jumped all over me because I had the wrong baggie (wasn't ziplock type).

I simply tossed the baggie, contents and all in the trash can sitting there, then the woman TSA agent really jumped down my throat. I don't know what she wanted me to do with it and I wasn't about to fight about less than 3 oz of toothpaste and deodorant.

But it blew my mind away that I didn't have any problem leaving home with the wrong baggie but the TSA agents at another airport were in my face over it.

What goes at one airport doesn't at another.

If these procedures were to protect us from some threat, they would be more consistent.

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 07:07 PM
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4. Actually, no, consistency would not be a good idea

Consistent measures are easier to defeat that inconsistent ones.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 07:29 PM
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6. But if that 3oz is OK going, why is it bad coming back?
I could have had 20oz in my bag, they would have never known.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 07:45 PM
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7. not when the cause of inconsistency is incompetence
Sigh
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:27 PM
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8. Exactly right. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:47 PM
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10. Actually you have to keep them
inconsistent... to keep the bad guys guessing.

Just a note from the real world There are many things they do that are reactive and stoopid, but not being consistent at your level is not one of them.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 06:54 PM
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3. I've Had Nothing But Good Experiences
I always get patted down because of my brace.

They've been kind, sensitive, and professional.

Everyday American's doing their job.

I bet many are Democrats.

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auntsue Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 07:08 PM
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5. I traveled to Chicagoo and thought I was being so careful
When I got to my hotel room I was looking for a chapstick in the bottom of my purse and I found my swiss army knife. The TSA and x-rays totally missed it. Going back I made sure to put in check in 'cause I didn't want to lose it. Had one taken away at Magic Mountain.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:44 PM
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9. i'm usually juggling enough when i get to the checkpoint that i forget something
TSA never finds or even seems to notice that i left it in my carryon or whatever.

They are so focused on me that they seem to totally miss checking my stuff.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 09:36 PM
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11. Once they missed a 4" spring assisted tanto knife I carry at work.
They're pretty wretched at LAX. I normally wear the knife on set, and stuff it in my camera case at the end of the day. When I travel, I carry-on my camera case, and my knife goes into my luggage for the trip, but I forgot about it one time recently and was pretty surprised to find it in my camera case when I got to my hotel.

And speaking of snow-globes, the same month I took a personal trip to London, I saw a little girl crying cause TSA took away her snow-globe souvenir of the Hollywood sign. (Side note: Hollywood sign and snow?) It was definitely under 3oz of liquid in there, and I protested on her behalf, but to no avail. To top it off, the parents had gone through metal detector just prior to the girl and her teenage sister, and were past security putting on their shoes, but the two girls were still at the conveyor belt with the TSA bag checker. The father wanted to come back and another agent was telling him he couldn't go back into the security area. Which is also wrongheaded by TSA.

TSA: Keeping you safe from snowglobes and little English girls.
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