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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 07:52 PM
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Punishment First at Brooklyn Charter School
My name is Jasmine Crawford and I’m a parent at Achievement First in Crown Heights. On Monday night, after stories surfaced about dozens of children being mistreated, more than 70 parents came together and attended the Achievement First Crown Heights Board meeting to call for a change to the school’s discipline policies. This was the most parents they had ever seen at a board meeting.

As parents, we are outraged at the excessive disciplinary actions taken against our children in Achievement First schools, and, at the meeting, we let our feelings be known. Many of the scholars have had detention almost every day of the year! Trivial infractions such as dropping a pencil, not making eye contact and “slouching” have landed our children in after-school detention. Students have received demerits for having tissues in class if they were sick; one scholar stood up and told of how, after she’d used her asthma inhaler, she laid her head on the desk and received a demerit. Although she was feeling sick, she didn’t want to ask to go to the nurse out of fear that the teacher would call it “talking back” and “being disrespectful.” What kind of environment is this school producing when sick students are scared to ask to see their nurse?

Even at the onset of our press conference, held before the board meeting, AF staff tried to silence parents and challenged students as liars.But we would not be silenced then, and we won’t be now. We entered the meeting and were all given the opportunity to tell our “war stories.” The board chair, Judge Pricilla Hall, was very patient despite the urging of her assistant to close the open floor and go on with the business meeting. Even though the chair did not answer any direct questions, she did listen.

Each war story varied, but each also had a common theme. As parents, we completely agree with and understand the need for a consistent discipline code. But the stories we heard made it clear to anyone with a modicum of common sense that AF has gone overboard. When you are trying to control natural impulses of students such as yawning, you have truly gone off the deep end, and your policies become indefensible. Parents recanted stories of terror on the parts of their children in the school. With each story, a constant theme was being developed: a lack of respect from the school’s administration for parents and students, especially from Principal Blanchard and Dean Solomon.

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More alarming and disturbing is that Chi Tschang, who has a history of emotionally and physically abusing children, was brought in as Superintendent of their schools. Mr. Tschang had been reported in California to have put his hands on students and using harsh punishments like sitting out in extreme cold/sun for hours. We are calling for the removal of Mr. Tschang immediately. Although we saw him walk in the build shortly after 5pm, he was not at the meeting.

more . . . http://edvox.org/2010/11/24/punishment-first-at-brooklyn-charter-school/
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 07:55 PM
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1. How fucking totalitarian can it get?
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:00 PM
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2. Holy shit. Chi Tschang, the notorious Fresno KIPP guy.
"Mathews can assume most of his readers are not familiar with the disturbing doings in Fresno and this allows him to pretend that he is giving and objective overview. The national media has barely touched the story, but the Fresno Bee has been very thorough and Jim Horn at Schools Matter has been posting news and opinion on the case (Schools Matter is how I learned of the situation).

The basic story is that after extensive allegations of abusive discipline, punishments and practices by the principal, Chi Tschang, and staff dating back to 2004; requests for help by the local Charter Board; the resignation of four of six Charter Board members, an investigation by the Board of Education that documented many undisputed incidents of what read like psychotic abuses of power by an unstable control freak (the principal has disputed some of the allegations and given a blanket denial of all since the report gives indisputable documentation for many things the blanket denial lacks credibility), uncredentialed teachers, massive violations of mandated testing procedures including open access to tests by students. extra time given and teachers telling students to correct answers, not following rules for student suspensions, and violations of student and family legal privacy rights; the principal resigned and under a new KIPP appointed principal the school and KIPP are fighting to avoid closure."


http://madisonamps.org/2009/03/20/how-to-spin-a-story-jay-mathews-on-kipp-problems/
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:00 PM
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3. I went to a Catholic school where discipline was priority #1, but it wasn't as bad as this.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:46 PM
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15. There is a world of difference between discipline and punishment
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:01 PM
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4. if she's unhappy then she should send her kid elsewhere... n/t
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:31 PM
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9. It speaks pretty poorly of the alternatives if folks are sending their kids to this place.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:40 PM
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12. Don't forget
you're only hearing the sensationalized one side of the story.

If it's as bad as she claims, then wth would send their kids there?!?


Great thing about Charter public schools - attendance at one is ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY! Enough people walk, they change administrators, change policy, or close. Pretty simple really.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:52 PM
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16. they bought into the Charter school BS, just like you do....that's why.
now they're stuck, and don't know what to do....just like you are in WI, without your snappy train

employing your very own logic, why don't you move elsewhere if you're so unhappy

high score for your very disingenuous, misleading responses, though
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 01:06 PM
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19. no they're not "stuck" - they're free to leave
at any time.

I'm not unhappy in liberal Madison. I am unhappy with idiots who have not one lick of sense, though.

I suspect this is a highly inflamed and one-sided "article".

that's not to say - maybe is IS a really crappy place. And if it is, I suspect it's demise - or radical change - is forthcoming.


Again - one of the best things about Charter Public Schools is they must respond to those who attend, or they'll have their doors shut.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:45 PM
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13. Says more about the sales pressure, IMO
One charter here gives kids a Wi for enrolling. Another gives its students $200 for recruiting friends. Your tax dollars at work.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:02 PM
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5. No words. Just no words.
Not even words incorrectly used, like "recanted," can take away from the heartbreak I feel on reading this.

What's wrong here? What's wrong with this picture? Oh, I know I go off sometimes on this wjole "they don't care" thing, and I truly believe those at the top DON'T care, in part because they're so far removed from the battlefield.

But are there really enough teachers out there -- or should I say "teachers"?? -- who will tolerate this? I don't want to think so. I know they sure aren't here on DU, and they sure weren't among any of the teachers I had or my kids had.

On the other hand, BRAVO to the parents who stood up.



With each story, a constant theme was being developed: a lack of respect from the school’s administration for parents and students, especially from Principal Blanchard and Dean Solomon.

I wonder how much Principal Blanchard and Dean Solomon and Superintendent Tschang are paid.


TG, NTY

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:04 PM
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6. Hey, look at the bright side.. They'll feel right at home in corporate America..
This is the best possible training these kids could get for their coming serfdom..

Corporations don't want slaves, you have to feed and house slaves, they want serfs who can starve and shiver on the street on their own time.

I'm not quite sure myself if I'm being sarcastic or just honest..
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:11 PM
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7. I really do think that's the point.
America is not a free country anymore.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:28 PM
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8. Read this part:
Edited on Wed Nov-24-10 08:28 PM by tblue37
DATE: Retribution on our kids was seen the very next day at school. Scholars were forced to sign a statement in support of Mr. Solomon and praise the school and staff on videotape. More disgusting, a teacher denied a scholar a high school recommendation because of the board meeting. All was done without parent knowledge and the penalty for not following was an automatic detention. What lesson is the school teaching our children?
Wow. Just wow. Like Stalinesque show trials and North Korean propaganda videos!
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:32 PM
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11. I'd write that kid a recommendation.
I've written scads of them in my time and would have no trouble writing one for a scholar who stood up for justice or even just agreed with the side of justice.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:31 PM
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10. It makes me want to swoop in there and rescue them.
Bring them to my school or kick out those teachers for retraining (if that could even work at all) and bring in a brand-new staff.

We hear stories similar to this all the time in our alternative high school. They're not part of a consistent policy, though, just times when teachers have snapped (like when one tied a student of mine to her chair) or teachers in particular who are known in the community to be crazy or overboard in their discipline. This kind of story makes me ill.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 08:46 PM
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14. Sounds like the catholic school I went to in the 50s
Why I sent my own kids to public school. These people need to take a course or two on what is considered child abuse and then FIRED and brought up on charges.
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auntsue Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 10:41 PM
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17. In my experience people who need that much control
Edited on Wed Nov-24-10 10:42 PM by auntsue
are actually afraid of kids getting the upper hand. You can't command respect. You can rule by fear and intimidation but you have to be ever-vigilant. OR you can acutally be respectful and earn kid's respect, then they'll follow you anywhere. The staff at this school sound pathological. I wouldn't let them sit with my dogs.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 11:10 PM
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18. The best way is to build trust
Being a hard ass is not going to teach kids a thing.
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