TSA agents aren't changing latex gloves between touching bare armpits, buttocks, and genitals

[Liberal_in_LA]

TSA pat-downs could spread sexually-transmitted disease and contribute to pandemics
Tuesday, November 23, 2010
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

(NaturalNews) There's a startling fact about the TSA pat-downs that most of us have not realized: TSA agents often do not change their latex gloves between pat-downs! With these pat-down reaching into your pants, feeling your genitals, and sweeping bare armpits and buttocks, those latex gloves being worn by the TSA agents are obviously teeming with germs.

And yet TSA agents often don't change gloves between patting down passengers. They're often using the same gloves on you and your crotch as they were using on the previous passenger's exploratory crotch feel.

This means, of course, that the TSA is now engaged in extremely risky behavior that could spread sexually-transmitted disease, cold viruses, skin fungi (such as ringworm), and even contribute to a pandemic outbreak.

So now, while the TSA claims to be protecting your safety, they could actually be infecting you with pandemic disease at the same time.

New aggressive pat-downs do not meet medical standards for sterility
None of this was a problem when the TSA pat-downs were merely touching the outside of peoples' clothing. But in the last few weeks, the TSA changed its pat-down procedure to include feeling down your pants and inside your underwear.

Air travel passengers across America have been complaining of the TSA fingering their genitalia and touching their sex organs. Just this week, an ABC News employee was fingered by a TSA agent who felt around inside her underwear (http://www.naturalnews.com/030492_T...). This process of touching traveler's genitals without consistently changing latex gloves means the TSA is involved in extremely risky behavior that could spread disease.

TSA agents are not trained as medical personnel. Just as they don't seem to grasp the Bill of Rights, they also may not understand how infectious disease is spread. They aren't medical personnel; they're Big Brother enforcers who have likely never been taught the principles of how to conduct a sterile body search.

http://www.naturalnews.com/030495_TSA_infectious_disease.html

[bemildred]

1. Yay, a new disease vector. nt

[woo me with science]

20. Could be done purposefully too.

Just load your pants prior to your screening.

[EFerrari]

24. Exactly. What are these people thinking?

More evidence that this has nothing to do with keeping anyone "safe".

[bluestate10]

2. Go through the scanner if you're concerned about filth transfer.

How many more TSA threads out there? You're working yourselves into a lather over nothing.

[lbrtbell]

4. Nothing?

Either you don't fly, or else you're a pervert who wants strangers fondling you with filthy gloves.

As for how many TSA threads there are, it's called concern. If there were a myriad of threads about Bristol Palin on DWTS, that would be an annoyance, but this is a legitimate news item.

If legitimate news items bother you, may I suggest you create an account at a non-news forum?

[Name removed]

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[blonndee]

5. Is this DU?

Seems like I've seen more stupid-ass, simplistic, right-wing crap here today than I've seen in the five-plus years I've been a member here. Now I remember why I've been frequenting this place less and less...frequently.

[Liberal_in_LA]

6. Yeah, it's DU, unfortunately

[Igel]

10. Well...

A lot of it is simplistic.

On the other hand, the world is seldom so nicely divided into pure black and pure white, pure (D) and pure (R). There's overlap in some attitudes and beliefs, meaning overlap in principle; and there's overlap in outcome, where (D) and (R) oppose or agree on something for utterly different reasons.

Sometimes the all-important group boundary finds itself around large percentages of (D) and (R), however distasteful it may be to them to find that the (D) vs (R) boundary isn't the end-all and be-all of existence and utterly disgusting those for whom the (D) vs (R) boundary *is* the end-all and be-all of existence.

Which reminds me, while simultaneously being a propos of nothing (except perhaps the IPA I've been drinking to excess), that there are some radishes in the garden ready to harvest.

[krabigirl]

19. It's authoritarianism, and the mentality is in both parties.

[woo me with science]

57. [phone] nt

[Incitatus]

28. no shit. If I wanted to read crap like that all day I would go to Free Republic. nt

[jberryhill]

60. Ummm... WorldNut Daily was first with the cooties angle on this

The assertion that they aren't changing gloves is not based on a single sourced observation.

[Desertrose]

38. It is now...been here 9+ years.....

it ain't the same place at all...sadly.

[drm604]

9. Not everyone has that choice.

If the scanner shows some medical device, a colostomy or urostomy bag, for example, than you HAVE to go through a pat down.

[daleo]

13. Medical staff take infection pretty seriously

Security staff should too.

[Eric J in MN]

16. Nate Silver of the New York Times wanted to go through the scanner

...instead of being groped.

The machine showed something in his back pocket, when there wasn't anything in his back pocket.

So Nate Silver was scanned-and-groped.

Senator Mike Johanns (R-NE) was also scanned-and-groped. He asked TSA Chief John Pistole about it. Pistole said he may have been chosen at random to be groped.

[saigon68]

22. Pistole is a thug and low functioning mental midget

His Hero would be a guy like Josef Kramer



Josef Kramer (November 10, 1906 – December 13, 1945) was the Commandant of the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. Dubbed "The Beast of Belsen" by camp inmates; he was a notorious Nazi war criminal, directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of Jews and other people. He was convicted of war crimes and hanged in Hamelin prison by noted British executioner Albert Pierrepoint after World War II.

[Gormy Cuss]

39. That's the part some don't get. Going through the scanner is not an automatic pass on the grope step

[Dappleganger]

42. I would if...

there were no x-ray emissions (I've had enough to last several lifetimes) and doing so wouldn't trigger and automatic pat-down due to the metal rod in my neck.

But if you like to be sexually assaulted on a regular basis, nobody's stopping YOU.

[Alexander]

47. Who let the sheep in?

[Lucian]

54. That's the dumbest fucking comment on this site.

By far.

Congratulations.

[proud2BlibKansan]

3. Sounds like they are more concerned about protecting themselves

than serving the public.

[laughingliberal]

32. Yes. Gloves are for the protection of the wearer & not good for infection control...

even under ideal conditions ie: changing gloves and hand washing between each person touched. Failing to change gloves renders them useless in protecting those being examined.

[LibDemAlways]

7. If the choice is an x-ray or a grope, the public is screwed either way.

What assurances do we have that the TSA workers are competent to operate the x-ray machines? Each state has a set of laws that govern training and licensing of x-ray technicians, yet I have been unable to find any information at all about whether TSA personnel are exempt from these regulations and, if so, what kind of training they receive. I have a feeling that this crack work force, recruited off of pizza box advertising, has no idea what the hell its doing.

[Myrina]

8. +10

:applause:

[readmoreoften]

12. +1

[pecwae]

34. +++

[BadgerKid]

35. +(1e+03). Deserves own thread. n/t

[LibDemAlways]

36. On another site someone posted that those who operate

the machines receive 2 days of training. That's it.

I think the public deserves some answers. Why are potentially cancer-causing machines installed in the airport in the first place? And why are unqualified individuals being allowed to operate them in clear violation of state laws?

I've already written a letter to the Radiologic Health Board of the state of California and am hoping for some sort of answer.

[guardian]

45. +100 n/t

[glitch]

11. FUBAR

I don't think they thought this through, other than as a handout to an important (politically) vendor.

[ShamelessHussy]

14. demonstrates clearly how much they care about their weTHEpeople vs their OWN interest

GROSS :puke:

[Tsiyu]

15. Well isn't that special

I had a feeling (no pun intended) that this was the case.

I can only imagine the diseases already spreading. Those warm, moist places grow all sorts of stuff.










yeehaw!

A Nationwide TSASTD!!!!!!!! Cuzz we cares abowt yer saftie!!!!!

[Generic Other]

17. TSA is going to lose this fight

It's too invasive and every grope will become a security issue. They will create millions of security risks as travelers squirm and complain and sue and scream. No two people will react the same way. One will curse, one will cry, one will wet themselves, one will take badge numbers. Non-exempt Congressmen and women's families will complain first. Cops and firefighters' families next. Soldiers and their families will follow. As will EMT's. All will demand to know how they can be trusted in their daily lives but not to fly without being groped. Teachers will want to know how parents can trust their kids to them but not trust the educators to fly. Doctors will ask why they can do heart surgery but can't be trusted to fly. Lawyers will ask all kinds of questions and take notes for future lawsuits. Everyone will be united against TSA.And TSA will stop requiring anyone to go through anything other than metal detectors because they won't want to deal with the nastiness they will inevitably bring on themselves.

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[inna]

43. It's not TSA per se. They are following the *orders* directly from the govnmt/DHS.

[chill_wind]

18. Gah!! They wear gloves for a reason, so they have to know about the germ concept.

They know they have to wear gloves to protect THEMSELVES. And this is all the further they and their superiors (supervisors and trainers) can think??? God we really are becoming a third world nation.

[EFerrari]

26. This is so out of control.

The very young, the elderly, pregnant women.

WTF. We're so sold down the river.

[Desertrose]

44. I can't imagine ANYONE going along with this...and yet even here...

there are too many defending this!!!

Really big W.T.F.

[Generic Other]

25. This disgusting public health warning needs to go "viral" so to speak

Insisting on clean gloves is not a crime.

When will the first "immaculate conception" happen?

[EFerrari]

27. This is Rumsfeldian. They wear the gloves to give the appearance of care

not to protect the TSA agents, bet me.

/oops

[Major Hogwash]

29. I can't wait to buy a pair of these gloves on e-Bay.

Because you know, they'll be selling them there by Black Friday.

[lonestarnot]

30. Now that is nasty.

[HipChick]

31. Read and weep..

no-one knows for sure how this is spread

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/morgellons-disease-symptoms.html

[Paper Roses]

33. Gross, I can't think of a better word at the moment.

This info turns my stomach. If I opted (which I never would) for the body search, I'd demand new gloves.
That would probably put me on the "No Fly" list.

This information should go viral, tell everyone you know.

Cooties

[Desertrose]

37. K&R

[avaistheone1]

40. But I thought

the government was trying to protect us?


:sarcasm:

[dkf]

41. Feeling around inside your underwear isn't a pat down.

To think for a youngster this may be the first person other than their parent when they were babies to feel around down there. Don't molesters get in trouble for this sort of thing?

[seafan]

46. The public health communicable disease aspect of this has been deep-sixed entirely.

It is a dangerous risk.


These TSA agents are not changing gloves between each passenger they put their hands on.



Remember the man whose urostomy bag burst during the *enhanced assault*, contaminating himself and his surroundings?


How about transmission of herpes infections? Lice? Gonorrhea? Worse?


I just cannot imagine the potential outcome of these authoritarian actions by TSA/Homeland Security on the populace. It is indefensible from any direction.




Maybe the CDC would like to comment?

[AzDar]

48. K & R

Ughhh.

[katnapped]

49. Nothing to see here!

Just a bunch of ungrateful people again beating up on TSA agents who did nothing to deserve this (and our dear leader who just wants to make us SAFE from the boogeyman)

Move along, people....

:sarcasm:

[spin]

50. Wait until a confirmed STD case involving a minor happens ...

the shit will hit the fan.

The TSA will of course blame the child.

[TheKentuckian]

58. The surrender monkeys that are always hand wringing about how the TeaPubliKlans

will react haven't considered this.

Wait till some sweet lil blond girl gets something off a glove. They'll probably blame the father and her older brother till they are found clean instead of realizing that they stood up for a bunch of crap that will reap a hell of a whirlwind.

As always, the media will be cruel, stupid, and relentless. Mika Mouse will shake her head and use hushed tones as she talks about a scarred little girl, spoiled and infected before she had her first crush or kiss.

Maybe then they will learn the value of doing the right thing and having principles that do not change on the whims of politicians' machinations.

[TheKentuckian]

59. or a plane blows up despite this bullshit as it eventually will.

[thanks_imjustlurking]

51. Of course not. The gloves are to protect *them*, not *us*. nt

[IDemo]

52. Look what I picked up at the airport, honey.

[Lucian]

53. But hey, at least we won't be blown out of the sky by a genital bomb.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

Or, the one I like: "It's not a big deal and it only takes a few minutes."

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

Anyone who doesn't mind this needs to get their heads examined. Now they're touching bare crotches? No. I will never fly if they feel the need to grab my bare junk. Touching one's genitals outside the pants is one thing, but now if they're putting their hands down your underwear, that's a totally different story. I will not stand for that.

[Eric J in MN]

55. This article has me leaning towards getting X-rayed if I have to choose...

...but after going through the X-ray they may tell me that the scanner showed something (false positive) & I may get both X-rayed and groped.

[LisaL]

56. Exactly. They don't even have to explain to you why they decided

to pat you down after they scanned you.

[Tsiyu]

61. These have a chemical in them that detects explosive residue

under lights?

So they are also rubbing a chemical on your skin? Swell.

It just gets better and better.



Is that correct?

Just heard Ian say this on Coast To Coast

[this_side_up]

62. latex creates lots of dust

which everyone inhales but you don't know it...yet.

If you are already severely allergic, get the inhaler(s) and possibly ambulance
at the ready.

If you are not currently allergic,
difficult how long.

The goobermint does not have the right to
inflict anyone's airway.