Limbaugh Attacks Obama For Honoring Native Americans; Ridicules Them

[DearAbby]

Rush Limbaugh is horribly offended that President Obama honored the contributions of Native Americans, thanking them for their “rich culture” in his Thanksgiving proclamation. Mocking the people whose land we stole, Limbaugh believes their contributions amount to “casinos” and “reservations.” Yes, Native Americans should be so thankful to us for taking over their land so they could be relegated to reservations. (via Mediaite)

A caller seems very grateful that he is able to speak with a man who presents a true history of America, whose works, he says, bring him and his family to tears.

Speaking with a caller, Limbaugh clarified what the real story of Thanksgiving is about: “the true story of Thanksgiving is how socialism failed,” he tells the caller, noting that “the Indians didn’t teach us capitalism” and “we shared our bounty with them… because we first failed as socialists.” The caller, David, seemed thrilled with that explanation, but it sounds like the sort of thing American history scholars may have a bit of a problem with.

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[kentuck]

1. He also said they killed more of us than we killed of them...

Because they introduced the white man to tobacco...

[lame54]

10. that's a fair trade for smallpox

[Vinnie From Indy]

35. WTF does that mean?

Would you care to expound on your one liner?

[lame54]

38. It's the chemicals that are mixed with tobacco...

that kill people

The Indians did not put them in there.

[tblue37]

42. The Europeans deliberately infected blankets with smallpox

and gave them to the Native Americans, causign innumerable deaths. But even when they were not doing it deliebrately, just by bringing to the New World smallpox, measles and other diseases that the indigenous populations had no immunity at all for killed so many of them that whole villages were wiped out.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. The way they twist history to suit their needs is disgusting

[XemaSab]

39. It's not even twisting history, it's making shit up wholesale

Did you know that there was going to be a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the Scots-Irish a sovereign state, the capitol of which would be Santa Cruz, California? And that every Scots-Irish citizen would be entitled to 10% of tax revenue collected by the fed? And that it was a fifth column of English in the US who blocked this from happening?

It's all true. I heard it on Rush.

[unhappycamper]

3. In 1491, there were up to ten million natives living in what we now call 'our land'.

Read your history, Rush.

[classof56]

4. I guess there's no end to the depths to which Limbaugh will plunge...

and apparently no end to those who will plunge with him.

Lord help us all!

[somone]

5. Yep, Native Americans should have refudiated Marx's teachings

They should have just refused to read his books.
:sarcasm:

[FrancisTreptoe]

6. Seriously?

What the f**K does socialism have to do with Thanksgiving? Can't we just celebrate thanks and appreciation in peace?

[Poboy]

19. EVERYTHING must be politicized. This is what they do.

Every aspect of history, culture, and society must be put through their propaganda and language bending agenda. Truth or relevance is inconsequential.
When trying to have a conversation with these people who repeat this bullshit, it is impossible to even have a conversation about anything without them brining in some insane 'perspective'.
The belief must be maintained.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. The "Capitalists" of 1620 would have starved to death without the Native Americans coming to their

aid.

And to "thank" them, the descendants of the "Capitalists" starved the Native Americans by evicting them from their land.

[jwirr]

8. From the res: F--k you limpballs. on second thought I would not stoop

that low.

[salinen]

11. Which res?

I live in Chumash, Salinan, & Esalen country.

[jwirr]

15. Cloquet Minnesota area.

[XemaSab]

40. Wintu nation here, but the Maidu and the Nomlaki are right around the corner

:hi:

[CBGLuthier]

9. I would never ever agree with that fool, but

I do get tired of the nonsense that gets trotted out this time of year. Grouping an entire continent's population with the actions of a few people who lived on the east coast. Most of the native population did not have the "pleasure" of meeting their conquerers for a century or more after the "first thanksgiving."

[ben_thayer]

12. Limbaugh is a snake- I would not dirty my hands to kill a snake... EOM

:mad:

[sarge43]

14. You insult snakes.

Even pond scum would be insulted by any comparison. In fact the International Order of Pond Scum uses Limpy's name as an adjective for vile.

[tblue37]

43. Why would you say that about snakes? Snakes are marvellous creatures.

They are also great for keeping down rodent populations in a given areas.

[ben_thayer]

44. *Sigh...* It was a quote from an

old western. Extremely insulting to the Native American to whom it was directed. I just thought it was somewhat amusing to turn it around on Limbaugh in this context.

No insult to snakes was intended.

Sheesh...

:eyes:

[old mark]

13. I wonder if my Osage ancestors actually scalped anyone - got a nice head of hair there, Rush..

Let me get my pocket knife...


mark

[madokie]

17. I'd proudly help you

[Demoiselle]

21. I had a mental image very close to this one, old mark.

Only it involved a small handmade axe, skillfully thrown.

[sarge43]

29. Your pocket knife blade is probably too sharp

Recommend a rusty hacksaw blade.

[Barack_America]

16. What a vile human being.

[Swamp Rat]

23. "Human being?"

[Barack_America]

25. You're right, "creature" would have been more appropriate.

[SpiralHawk]

18. Typical prattling of a draft-dodging, pill-popping Republicon divorce freak

Broken treaty score, Rush:

Native Nations: 0
U.S. Governement: 376

That's right, Rush. Every single treaty has been broken or violated by the US Government.

A track record of dishonor that parallels Rush's own shameful record of failed integrity and sell out.

[KingOfLostSouls]

20. You know, seriously...

one of these days someone of us in the native american community is going to give rush the V for Vendetta treatment.


you don't fuck around with people from a warrior culture.

I'd sure as fuck like to scalp this sonofabitch with a rusty, dull knife

[struggle4progress]

22. "Besides they had about a peck a meal a week to a person, or now since harvest, Indian corn to the

proportion. Which made many afterwards write so largely of their plenty here to their friends in England, which were not feigned but true reports."

William Bradford, describing their first harvest in 1621, in his History of Plymouth Plantation. See http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1650bradford.html#First%20harvest

So they ate maize, that great gift to the world from the Amerindians

[Igel]

30. Mesoamericans, actually.

By the time corn spread from S. Mexico, Guatemala, and adjacent areas it had become a useful grain, made even better by the discovery--probably accidental--of nixtimalization. Mix in beans and squash--also from nearby--and you have a winner.

Many North American tribes owe a great debt to the Mesoamericans. N. American arboriculture wasn't transferable southwards and you can only do so much with Jerusalem artichokes and chenopodium. The "three sisters" let N. American tribal populations increase. How much of the territorial acquisition by some tribes and supra-tribal ethnic groups was made possible by them will probably never be known.

The Iberian fish-in-the-hole practice was a nice trick, too.

Then again, this kind of claim isn't common. Don't know how many Muslims I've met that claimed that Islam, somehow, invented the idea of zero instead of letting the "polytheists" that they conquered in N. India receive the credit they deserve.

[struggle4progress]

32. Thanks. I hadn't known about its earliest archaelogy. It apparently spread across

both the Northern and Southern hemispheres thousands of years ago, so a number of different groups were able to contribute to further domestication over an extensive period

[sarge43]

33. Two words - potatoes and chocolate. mmmmmmm

The cornucopia of the Western Hemisphere probably kept Europe from starving to death.

And let's not forget tomatoes.

[struggle4progress]

34. Potatoes!

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[sarge43]

36. Tomatoes!

[struggle4progress]

37. I say potato. You say tomato. Let's call the whole thing off

[madamesilverspurs]

24. I'm changing a memory --

thinking back to that memorable moment on the old Tonight Show - - - instead of a human outline drawn on a board, Ed Ames pitching the hatchet toward Rush Limbaugh . . .

[guitar man]

26. Good grief

When is this SOB finally going to do the world a favor and fatally overdose ? :grr:

[14thColony]

27. How Socialism failed?! WTF?!

Well except for the fact that Socialism wouldn't exist as a cohesive theory for another two hundred years, and Capitalism hadn't developed yet (we were still under Mercantilism then), and that everything else he said is wrong ... beyond all that I agree with Rush: there were English colonists and there were Native people and they did interact in some fashion. And Rush is either stupid or an opportunist or more likely a stupid opportunist.

[Igel]

31. Yes, it's a silly claim.

Then again, there are those who claim that Christ and early Xians were actually socialists.

Hell, it's hard enough defining "socialism" in practice terms for just the 20th century. Do you listen to what people claimed they were, theoretical political science, or adherents who really don't want to accept that "true" socialism has never been tried and therefore is untarnished.

I think of it as "communalism". Voluntary, self-policing communes are viable but usually fail after a generation or so unless they kick out loafers and import adherents. The tragedy of the commons and competing definitions of "fair" usually squash them. The Plymouth colony wasn't fully voluntary and self-policing, and either they had to lose the idea of working entirely and just for the common good or they had to resort to draconian measures. They chose the former, and even then were riven by the need to operate by consensus. Most governments opt for the latter because while a consensus among 30 or 50 people is nearly impossible, the idea of a consensus among 10 million is risible. (Not that I don't use "consensus" with its new-found meaning of "majority".)

[Enthusiast]

28. The false history according to Limbaugh. nt

[AnnieBW]

41. Actually, they taught us democracy

The basis Federated government was the League of the Iroquois.

[Ilsa]

45. Limbaugh is a pathetic, bitter, poor excuse for a human being.

He's proof that having lots of money can't make you happy.

[ladjf]

46. Limbaugh is so outrageously disingenuous that nothing he now

says can surprise me. He must have a staff of writer whose sole job is to think up repulsive political ideas. For exactly what purpose, I have no idea.