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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:44 PM
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Danish researchers finally solve the obesity riddle
Researchers at the Faculty of Life Sciences (LIFE), University of Copenhagen, can now unveil the results of the world's largest diet study: If you want to lose weight, you should maintain a diet that is high in proteins with more lean meat, low-fat dairy products and beans and fewer finely refined starch calories such as white bread and white rice. With this diet, you can also eat until you are full without counting calories and without gaining weight. Finally, the extensive study concludes that the official dietary recommendations are not sufficient for preventing obesity. The large-scale random study called Diogenes has investigated the optimum diet composition for preventing and treating obesity.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:46 PM
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1. Is there enough lean meat to go around, though?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:52 PM
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4. you can trim fat off with a knife and fork
no?
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 08:18 PM
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14. Fat is not always just on the outside of a cut of meat
marbling is fat all through the meat. Cheap cuts of meat are usually tougher and have a higher fat content then more expensive cuts, so poorer people tend to buy the fatter less expensive ones. There by leading to obesity in lower income families as they try to spread their food budget.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:13 AM
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16. I don't think most white meat like chicken has extensive marbling
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:56 PM
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7. A good point, but it does suggest beans as an alternative to meat
The successful diet was a "high-protein (25% of energy consumed), low-GI diet". The other interesting thing is that the high-protein diet had a lower dropout rate than a low one - easier to maintain interest with a variety of protein such as meat allowed, I guess.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:48 PM
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2. I wonder though, does this apply universally? What about Native Americans, Africans...
...Asians, etc.? I read the full article and it was unclear exactly who composed the test group. They are described as "European", IIRC, so I don't know exactly what that means.

I think it's great that these people lost weight, but does the added protein put stress on other parts of their body like kidneys?

Very interesting though!

PB
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:21 AM
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17. Here is the traditional Mexican diet going back
to oh Clovis People... (that is really early)

Squash, corn. chilis and some meat...

Oh I forgot the beans too.

If Mexicans today ate closer to that traditional diet and less processed crap... there is a direct relationship between the entrance of Mickey Ds and the incredible spike in obesity rates.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:49 PM
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3. Eating this way has worked for me.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:55 PM
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5. It probably works for Danes and others
of white European ancestry. I dunno about the rest of the world.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:58 PM
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8. Humans evolved without refined carbohydrates in their diet.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 07:11 PM
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9. Refined carbs are only a fairly recent product
of the modern world since humans learned to circumnavigate the world. What is your point?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 07:43 PM
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11. Errm. Point is that - humans evolved without refined carbs in their diets.
All humans. Not just the relatively new white euro populations.

Nuts. Plants. Meats.

Diets high in proteins and fats. Very low in usable carbs.

Of course they were probably much more active than most humans today. They had to travel many miles to deliver a message. We sit and type on our keyboards and the whole world can see what we say almost instantly.

The whole world.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:56 PM
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6. Wow - a low carb diet!?! Whoda thunk.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 07:16 PM
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10. duh...I believe I have been hearing something about that for decades....
:crazy:
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 07:54 PM
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12. You don't say. William Banting in 1862. First popularizd this type of diet.
Mega food corp's hated it then, they hate it now. They make a lot of money off highly processed carbs.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 08:13 PM
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13. More like a 'right carb' diet.
Veggies and other low-glycemic carbohydrate sources are key.

Eat more broccoli!

:D
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 09:55 PM
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15. butbutbut piggie fat gooooooood.
my cousin is eating that way cause he is pre-diabetic. but i live on bread + taters. cutting back on sweets. but i am not giving up 1/2 + 1/2.
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