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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 07:25 PM Original message |
The Nation: TSAstroturf: The Washington Lobbyists and Koch-Funded Libertarians Behind TSA Scandal |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for your post. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Underlying all the screeching and screaming---excuse to further |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yep... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. This rebellion has been a Democratic issue for six years. |
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. ++++1 |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. +10000 nt |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
62. +++ |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. Sabrina, I love you! n/t |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
66. Wow! convolute much? |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. I have to agree with you. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Gee, I wonder how some people on this site would react |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. it's as obvious as a herd of elephants in the bathtub |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
57. Lol, it is all about poltics and your "team," right? Principles mean nothing. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
67. If I wanted to read right wing crap, I'd go to a freeper sight. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. You should see the comments underneath the story on the site. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. I really think the new enhanced search |
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WHEN CRABS ROAR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. I'm with you, I want all those freedoms I once had and if I have to |
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appleannie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. My son flies as part of his job. I never know where he is at any given time. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. Recommended. When this hit the news like the bogus Acorn stuff I knew it was a set up |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. This was a huge issue for Democrats for the past six years. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Unrec'd (thread, not you). You might really want to rethink that, talking about set-ups. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. Are you fucking kidding me? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Well Obama supports it so it must be all good. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. And the only people who oppose it here are just right wingers dividing us on purpose. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. It's the only possible explanation |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I think Obama is a right wing plot to discredit Obama. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. +1 |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
74. awesome |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. no it isn't |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Relax |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. In this case it obviously wouldn't have been overuse n/t |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. I came to DU when people were defending |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
68. That you held your nose voting for Humphrey, a died in the wool |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. it's sickening all right |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Hear, hear! |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. +1. Just because a libertarian group tries to spin TSA patdowns doesn't mean they're okay. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. +1 on that one. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
70. It did happen under Bush. The 'enhanced patdowns' were tried |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. It's not just RWers. A crap load of the left have been yelping like scalded dogs... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Bullshit nightmare scenario: |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The only thing I think is a problem is the radiation - |
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. "The only thing I see is a problem is...." |
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Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. I love your open-mindedness and willingness to rationally |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Really. Then what are the radiation dosage numbers. Energies, flux. Why no honesty? |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
69. Bullshit nightmare scenario; CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!! |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. making up bullshit nightmare scenarios.. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
60. So, you were on Bush's side when he tried to install |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. I guess I have been a right ringer |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
23. Don't like gropes = failure of DU Ideological purity test? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. The article has been debunked by Glen Greenwald and others. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Thank you. I can't believe the Nation is resorting to such low information bullshit. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Remember the hit job they did on Wes Clark a few years ago? |
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GETPLANING (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. You really have to admire their cunning |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. The Koch's are masters of diversionary tactics. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. read Glen Greenwald's response to this: |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. that was posted on DU yesterday too |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
35. fuck this shit. you all tried to align the left with the teabaggers when we opposed obamneycare.. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I mean, as we all know, the only problem is that people weren't buying over-priced health insurance. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. It's almost funny to watch the sudden abandonment of an issue |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Just when you think they can't stoop any lower... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Agree with you. It is very disheartening. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
41. Oh for sure. They want Americans to tie the feeling of being potentially violated by the TSA |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Do you really think it is just about 'having their junk' touched? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. It is also a civil right to be able to get on a plane that is safe. The terrorists have |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 12:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. If it is a civil right to be able to get on a plane that is safe, then |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. +1000 |
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kowalski1 (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 07:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
61. + 1000 |
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theFrankFactor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-27-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #52 |
77. A Fellow Outsider |
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Gravel Democrat (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 05:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. The underwear bomber was on a watch list, his dad reported him, boarded a plane without a passport- |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Yep, and now Chertoff has his scanners in the airports |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #51 |
64. only 20% of the cargo is inspected |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-25-10 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
48. The article my magazine, The Nation, published about John Tyner is a shameful smear. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
55. This garbage is considered journalism?! |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
65. I don't support privatizing the TSA. I support removal of scanners and ending the grope downs |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. I've been a subscriber of The Nation for about ten years. If they don't condemn this BS, I won't |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
75. Is there an article in The Nation on the corporate welfare for Chertoff's machines |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-26-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. ^ I bet there won't be one anytime soon ^ |
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