Can we stop it with the Palin posts?

[MadHound]

My Gawd, one would think that this is Palin Underground, or worse yet, Faux news, given the free publicity that we give this woman and her brood. If we're not obsessing over Palin's latest tweet, reality show or hair style, we're delving into the wit and wisdom of her offspring, obsessing over what they say, do or did. Hell, people even bring in accounts of the doing of Palin's daughters' ex's just so that we are completely, thoroughly saturated in all things Palin.

Let's face it, if Palin runs, it is highly doubtful that she will get the Republican nod. She was a drag on the ticket in '08 and the old boys in the RNC power circle aren't going to let that happen in '12. If by some freak chance she does get the nod, the Obama, even with the left in revolt, is going to win re-election.

But the more we keep her in the spotlight, the more outraged we are about her, her family and her antics, the more publicity she gets, and as the old saying goes, any publicity is good publicity.

So stop it, just stop it right now. Stop following the Palin soap-opera. Stop breathlessly reporting on everytime she picks her nose or tweets some inanity. Deprive her and her family of grifters of the one thing they desperately need, publicity.

You do that, then she and her family will go away. Anything else is simply feeding the Palin publicity machine.

[cowcommander]

1. She's our Emmanuel Goldstein, unfortunately

A common enemy is the only thing that keeps DU together these days.

[bvar22]

81. EXACTLY!

Palin IS the Misdirection.
She will NOT be the Republican nominee, and is NOT worth the attention.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

2. It's a website for political discussion on the Internet

If you don't like it, you can leave (read the site rules).

If you don't want to leave, you can hide the threads you don't like.

If you don't like the ongoing pos5ts of specific DUers, you can put them on ignore.

So the answer to "Can we stop it with the Palin posts?" is no. No, we can't.

[MadHound]

7. My, my, why are you going all authoritarian,

Yes, I recognize all those points you made, thank you Captain Obvious. What I'm trying to do is point out the actual harm that such ongoing publicity about Palin is doing. But you obviously don't seem to get that, and for whatever reason are willing to continue to feed the Palin publicity machine. Congrats, part of problem, not part of solution.

Keep on pumping and pimping up Palin.

[HipChick]

10. Can we stop it with the bash Obama posts too?

If we are going to talk about restricting the subjects of posts..

[ProSense]

19. Maybe

stop the Simpson, TSA, Boehner, teabagger posts too.

[MadHound]

30. Which has more effect on our lives, Palin's out of government antics,

Or the policies and decisions that the Obama administration is making everyday?

Oh, yeah, that would be the people actually in power, not the grifters who are trying to make a grab for it.

Keep your eye on where the power lies, not on the political effuvium that is disguised as power in this country.

[treestar]

39. Exactly! At least Palin bashing is bashing an actual Republican!

Such posts are positively good around here. Instead of the circular firing squad we actually go against Republicans.

[MadHound]

49. Useless, powerless Republican diversions

Meanwhile, Republicans who actually have real power are implementing programs and policies that will wreck our lives. Don't you think we should just as much, or more, attention to them as we are about Palin the bright and shiny?

[JackRiddler]

94. The OP is not talking about "restricting." It's a sensible suggestion to stop blathering 24/7...

about meaningless bullshit concerning the Palin family.

It's no more restrictive than a post urging you to eat more vegetables and get some exercise.

[Common Sense Party]

96. Especially when talking about her nonstop is EXACTLY what Palin wants.

She knows she has no credibility. But she figures (correctly) that she can overcome that through publicity and notoriety.

And we're only too happy to oblige.

[intheflow]

105. At least Obama is a real politician.

Palin is to politics what Jersey Shore is to journalism. The distinction is that one person has real power which should be discussed, and the other is having power thrust upon them by a willing, eager and compliant media. Including us, as we talk and talk and talk about Palin.

[lillypaddle]

112. There ya go!

I was thinking the same thing as I read the OP, and wondered if the Palin posts were taking too much time and space away from talking down the President.

[political_Dem]

114. I agree about stopping the Obama bashing posts. But nobody wants to go there.

[elleng]

13. ...

:thumbsup:

[ProSense]

18. The OP is the ultimate authoritarian post.

You claim you don't read the Palin posts, but are so bothered by them that you started an OP to tell others to stop it.

[MadHound]

34. No, actually unlike you, I am asking.

Notice the strange crook shaped punctuation mark at the end of the subject line? It is a question mark.

And you're not bothered when over a third of the front page of GD is taken up with Palin nonsense?

Look, if you want to discuss all things Palin, go for it. But as I said, all you're doing is feeding her more and more publicity, something she desperately needs to politically survive over the next couple of years. All you are doing is feeding the beast, and once again being part of the problem, not part of the solution.

[ProSense]

36. "So stop it, just stop it right now."

That's not a request, it's an order.

[MadHound]

42. Whatever,

Apparently you live in a black and white world where creative license doesn't exist and everything said is taken literally. What a sad, grey place it must be. Bye!

[ProSense]

52. "Apparently you live in a black and white world where creative license doesn't exist"

You started the OP, take responsibility for it instead of making claims that you did so even though you really don't care.

If you don't read them, why do you care?

[MadHound]

54. Wow, I don't even know what you're talking about here

I think you're just bashing out of reflex now, and not making sense, pro or con, while doing so. Keep this up and pretty soon you'll be foaming at the mouth.

[hfojvt]

100. one generally reads the titles on the front page of GD

when it reads like this

1. "Sarah Palin said what?"
2. Can Palin be elected President?
4. OMG! Sarah Palin farted! ROFLMAO
7. Another Bristol story from DWTS
8. Turns out it was a whoopee cushion, not a real fart
11. Will Fartgate finally bring Palin down?
12. Jesse Ventura weighs in on fartgate.
14. Bobby 'the weasel' Heenan- Linda McMahon is more qualified than Palin
16. Hulk Hogan to Ventura "shut up about fartgate, or I'll bodyslam ya - again!"
17. Sarah Palin's book tour
18. Sarah Palin's TV show
25. Sarah Palin on Good Morning America

After fifty straight days of a front page that seems to be 30-50% Palin, one gets the impression "crap, there's never anything interesting to read in GD any more." Like the History Channel seems to only talk about Hitler, all we can talk about is Mama Grizzly.

But tune in tomorrow for "As the Palin turns"

[Common Sense Party]

43. An order (use of the imperative) from someone without authority

is not authoritarian. It can't be, by definition.

It's a request and an expressed wish.

And one that will fall on deaf ears.

[ProSense]

50. No, it's an order.

Semantics in a discussion forum is laughable. Why even bother postint a directive to tell people what they shouldn't discuss?

[bettyellen]

67. And if we follow it, the MSM is magically going to shut the fuck up about the Palins, ha ha because

dontcha know this is all our fault.
Did you see the list of things we are "allowed" to post about here? I lost mine and I'm afraid I'll go rouge and get scolded.

[JackRiddler]

95. That's funny.

If I were sympathetic to your obvious self-appointed mission of playing ideological hall monitor on every discussion here, prosense, I'd advise you to learn more subtle rhetoric and not be so ready to declare enemies over every triviality. But carry on!

[bettyellen]

64. No one here is "pumping up or pimping up" Palin, that would be the media... and they ignore us

and seeing how the media totally ignores us, we are having no effect at all on her popularity. Zip. Unless you can show me some MSM links to show otherwise.
All this is simply some "WTF"type back and forth over the media coverage she does get. We also talk about the economy, the weather, the war and monthly photo contests- no one kids themselves that these are equally weighty and significant subjects, there is no reason they should be.
I'm tired or all this condescending BS that all discussion except that devoted to their pet causes as distraction of "bright shiny objects". Some people love to obsessively deride people for not following their lead, it;s controlling and offensive. To me it poisons this site more than any of the Palin threads.

[MadHound]

68. Sorry, but when day in, day out, one third to one half the posts on GD are about Palin,

That's obsession, unhealthy, unwelcome obsession. Hell, there are more posts about Palin on DU than there are on FR.

This is more than WTF type banter back and forth, and the thing is, the more attention she gets, good, bad or indifferent, the better it is for her. And we just keep feeding into that around here. Meanwhile, she continues to act as a diversion as more and more time is wasted on her latest whatever, and less and less time is devoted to true issues of substance.

One post requesting a slow down to the Palin posting isn't an obsession. An obsession is covering GD with posts devoted to one person, day in, day out, for two years. Now that's obsession.

[bettyellen]

76. How exactly are we at DU making it "better" for her? Pls post links or evidence that

we are on the MSM radar at all in this respect, Charlie. I don;t see it, don't believe it at all. The media is corporate controlled and doesn;t give a fuck about what we say here.

And I know enough DUers to know they can banter about loads of topics and not be "diverted" from their main purposes, YMMV.. but many here are capable of both, in fact one side inspires the the other to keep engaged.. Many people need to laugh to bond to spend some amount of time on other subjects. We do not owe you an apology for doing so.

In my experience people who insist on being single minded and intense 24/7 are quite difficult and inflexible and much harder and unpleasant to work with because they cannot cope with diversity. They cannot work with people who do not fit their own narrow mold and prefer dictating to them. Again, I see no evidence to the contrary from your posts,

[MadHound]

80. Name me one other subject or person that has had as many posts devoted to them as Palin

For over two years now. You don't think that's a bit obsessive? You find nothing wrong with that?

And speaking of inflexible and difficult, have you looked in a mirror lately? I step out of your accepted range of topics and dare question why we're posting so much about such a meaningless person, and you go ballistic, Charlie. You are chewing me out for that which you criticize, stepping out of that narrow mold. But I suppose the irony is lost on you.

[bettyellen]

90. Name the impact we have had on the media, and then you'll have a point.

No anger here, not ballistic, just asking you to show me why any of this is significant n any way other than the fact that you are finding it personally irritating.

You seems to have this idea that DU would improve only if people will devote their time to things you personally deem worthy all the time, and it's pretty much the definiton of self centered.
and frankly, it's too boring to even consider. I'd think if you wanted to spend your own precious time in a worthy manner you'd stop the scolding, because it's every bit as worthless as the coffee clatch Palin scuttlebutt, and it;s just darned judegemental and unpleasant to boot.

[tblue37]

110. +1

[Heidi]

3. Recommended. It just feeds her center-of-the-universe delusion. (nt)

[Common Sense Party]

16. No, it doesn't.

She doesn't know or care of DU's existence. So how can our incessant, obsessive discussions of All Things Palin feed her ego? She's unaware.

What it feeds is our need to have someone to hate.

[Heidi]

20. Your opinion is no more valid than mine.

I don't hate Palin.

However, if you sincerely believe Palin is entirely unaware of what's said about her on the internet and how that fuels the right's "with us or against us" mindset, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise.

Palin is clueless about many things, not the least of which is the difference between North Korea and South Korea, but her public perception is not among them. She, in her "Look at me! Look at me!" egotism, wears our loathing like a badge of honor and uses it to stir up discontent among her followers.

[Common Sense Party]

27. She is completely unaware of DU. I know we like to think we are

influential and all-important, but this site is pretty obscure.

I never said Palin is unaware of the hatred towards her; all she has to do is read the comment on her Facebook page (or Twitter feed, I guess, I'm not sure how that nonsense works).

I'm just saying, quite accurately, that the hatred expressed here on DU, ad nauseum, toward the Palins, serves no purpose other than to rile us up and provide a way to vent our hate. Sarah Palin is COMPLETELY unaware and unaffected by our ranting to the choir about her.

[intheflow]

107. Palin may be unaware of DU but

her handlers DO monitor hits on MSM stories about her, I'm sure. So every time DU posts a WaPo link to a Palin story and we go there to read the piece, we contribute to her "popularity" numbers.

[Common Sense Party]

108. Another reason to quit talking about her.

[Smarmie Doofus]

4. Truly. N/T

[H2O Man]

5. You first!

I don't tend to read the many Palin threads, but I think they do serve a good purpose. There is a good chance she will run in 2012, and do severe damage to the republican party.

[MadHound]

9. I don't read any Palin threads,

But I find it stupid and counterproductive, the way people around here obsess over her. So I decided to write about it in hopes of restoring some sanity and balance.

[Cirque du So-What]

40. Who died & made you the arbiter of sanity & balance anyway?

I sure as fuck didn't vote for ya!

[MadHound]

46. Fine, keep obsessing away

Keep your eye on the bright and shiny Palin, never noticing that the real political danger is coming from elsewhere, creeping up behind you.

I frankly don't give a damn, my eyes are wide open and discerning. Just trying to pass some advice on. If you don't like it, go back to another thread where you can babble about Palin all you want. Just don't say you weren't warned.

[Cirque du So-What]

51. You talking to ME?!?

I'm pretty fucking far from obsessing about that woman, and a simple search will bear that out. I DO take issue with people who go out of their way to compose scolding threads against people who talk about things with which you disapprove. Who the fuck ARE you anyway? Ever hear of 'hide thread?'

[MadHound]

53. Yeah, I'm talking to you sport

Your response to me was rather rude, so I responded in kind. You don't like it, then learn some manners, or learn to deal with the blowback from your rude remarks. It's that simple.

All I'm doing here is handing out pretty simple political advice, don't give your opponents free publicity when that's what they're desperate for. If you don't want to follow that advice, fine, don't. Just don't say that you weren't warned.

[Cirque du So-What]

91. Yeah, right...manners...

You're sofa king mannerly. Yours is the rude thread right from the get-go. FWIW, I also think there's far too much attention paid to her, but I'm sure not going to have a histrionic fit over it.

[MadHound]

47. edit, dupe, computer glitch, n/t

[terrya]

6. I agree.

I'm going to stop reading about her. She's a media whore. I'm no longer going to feed into it. Life is too fucking short to give one's attention to ignorant creatures like her.

[Stevenmarc]

8. Well if it weren't for Palin and the TSA we'd only have Obama to kick around

[bluescribbler]

24. Plenty of targets out there

John Boehner, Rand Paul, Glen Beck, Michelle Malkin, Mitt Romney, Mitch McConnell, to name just a few.

[elocs]

11. Palin is a DU obsession with a new thread started everytime she opens her mouth.

However, if DUers are free to start numerous threads about Palin, then you are also equally free to raise your objections to the frequency of such threads.

[Common Sense Party]

12. That's like asking a fish not to swim in water.

DU cannot EXIST without a nemesis like Palin.

[treestar]

38. Unfortunately true, at least it's not Obama or another Democrat

for that reason, any thread going after a Republican is a good one.

[otohara]

14. Excellent Idea

:fistbump:

[NNN0LHI]

15. How about making a list of all the subjects you don't want discussed here

Make things a lot easier on everyone.

Don

[ProSense]

17. Can you

So stop it, just stop it right now. Stop following the Palin soap-opera. Stop breathlessly reporting on everytime she picks her nose or tweets some inanity. Deprive her and her family of grifters of the one thing they desperately need, publicity.

...issue your directive to the media also too?

So you believe that people should ignore Palin and allow the media to push her unto unsuspecting people without any critical eye?

[Raschel]

35. I agree!

[MadHound]

37. Well, considering that even her supporters in the media are laughing at her behind her back,

I would say that the breathless seriousness with which Palin's every action is reported around here is, well, ahead of the curve.

So your answer to over the top media reporting of Palin is to respond with even more over the top posting about Palin? You simply don't get how publicity works, do you.

But then again, I can understand your POV. The more people obsess about a powerless nothing like Palin, the less time they have to worry about the actions of those who truly do have power, like the Democrats and the Obama administration.

[Raschel]

56. breathless seriousness,over the top posting, people obsess, powerless nothing like Palin

Seems like a lot of hyperbole, or amplification there.

I don't obsess over Palin. It bothers me greatly though how a positive image of her and her family is being crafted on TV.

We are the media as well. And the only part of the media that is going to expose her ignorance and purposeful lies. If it wasn't for the internets, we would only be seeing and hearing what Palin and Fox wants us to see and hear.

I have read posts on other sites where people said they no longer will support her after reading specific things about her. Things that are not reported on the "lamestream media".

She has a platform that most people aren't afforded. A platform to spread her hate and division. That REALLY bothers me. Palin, Bachmann and the rest are devoted to taking their country back(wards).

They say if a lie is repeated enough, people will believe it. The truth about Palin needs to be reported as often.

As a woman and a minority I will continue to post about every lie and hypocrisy of Palin's that is exposed.

[bettyellen]

84. Yep yep. But I think DU functions much more like a LW water cooler than it does as competiton to

media outlets. I get a wide variety of opinions here on a lot of topics, and know I shouldn;t sweat it when people actually talk about things Im already tired of. It's okay with me if they haven;t heard it all and are not focusing on what I am. All of us know people who are less informed, and who might be sympathetic to this woman, or to the dismantling of social security, or a dozen other topics I see posted about every time I come here. I think we all pick up lots of handy onfo here that helps us in practical day to day way, and that's great. I have no illusions that we influence the media. We reflect it back in a usually more thoughtful manner. And when people have patience and can educate each other, that;s a great thing!

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

104. You get it.

"I don't obsess over Palin. It bothers me greatly though how a positive image of her and her family is being crafted on TV."


Kind of what the MSM did for George W. Bush circa 1998-1999?

[tblue37]

111. +1

[madinmaryland]

21. Thanks for starting another one!

:D

[CLANG]

22. Just not a very realistic request

In a perfect world, it's a great idea. Unfortunately, we live in the USA in 2010, and Sarah DUMBASS Palin is a real danger to our republic. I can't believe I just said that.

[MadHound]

41. No, she's not.

She's political kryptonite. Why do you think that McCain lost? Because the power brokers in the Republican party put their money and support elsewhere. Every politician she has touched has lost, Miller, O'Donnel, etc.

Palin is a smokescreen, a diversion, a distraction from what is really going on in this country.

[ProSense]

57. "Why do you think that McCain lost? "

McCain got nearly 60 million votes. He lost, but that's not exactly a rebuke of Palin. A real rebuke would have been 40 million or less.

[CLANG]

88. Please don't tempt fate. You don't know what you're messing with.

This country long passed the kind of crazy I'd never imagined possible. There is plenty of room (and rubes) for this political climate to get even crazier and uglier.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. I agree there are too many posts here about her

But I disagree she has no chance of winning the nomination. The tea party folks will make sure she gets the nod. They are running the GOP, not Karl Rove and company.

[lunatica]

25. Maybe you shouldn't start threads about her or respond to threads about her

[MadHound]

45. I'm not.

I rarely open a Palin thread, and this thread is not about Palin herself, but about the ad nauseum Palin posts around here. Subtle but key difference.

[Brother Buzz]

26. The hide thread feature is wonderful

That is, if you use it.

[Common Sense Party]

33. How does one use it?

[Brother Buzz]

44. Tag the X is the little box on the subject line

prompts will help with the rest.

[Common Sense Party]

48. Isn't that the Ignore function?

I thought that only worked to Ignore a person.

[Brother Buzz]

55. It's for hiding/ignoring that individual thread

The Ignore a person feature is initiated with the head profile with the red X on their name line.

[TorchTheWitch]

28. If you think GD is bad, check out GDP

No wonder I almost never go in there.

[spanone]

29. a palin post to stop palin posts.....hmmmmm. she will NOT go away, don't kid yourslef.

[Upton]

31. I recommended your post

Some folks here seem to have a real obsession with her. I could speculate as to why, but I think it would be best if I kept it to myself..

[Common Sense Party]

32. Is there a way to hide all posts with "Palin" in the subject line?

I will do so if it's possible.

[Obamanaut]

69. click on that tiny box with the x on the subject line. nt

[Common Sense Party]

97. But I have to click on every thread manually?

I'm too lazy for that.

I was hoping to auto-block every thread that mentions her.

[Obamanaut]

99. It is indeed an aggravation. When Susan Boyle was in vogue it seemed

like every third subject line got a click to go away.

[grahamhgreen]

58. She's Obama's best hope of winning in 2012.

[pgodbold]

59. If Sara Palin runs she will win. The fact that she is as dumb as a rock is irrelevant. Bush was as

dumb as a rock and got 8 years. The fact is... if the moneyed elite want her in she is in. Why?... because the american voters are as dumb as rocks too.

[astral]

60. Welllll -- George Bush won . . . .well, SORT of . . .

People do not care how smart someone is, they just care whether they'd enjoy going out for a beer with that person.

We are in big trouble. Has anyone else here figured out it has nothing to do with who is elected President, at least not anymore?

As for talking Palin in general, we all talk about what we want here, and if everybody's into that topic, it's not gonna go away.

I should re-phrase that, we talk about what we want here within some pretty strict limits, but that's waaay too far off-topic.

[MadHound]

66. You posted your own rebuke, "if the moneyed elite want her in she is in."

They don't want her in, they never have, they simply want her to go away. Remember back to her VP inauguration speech? You took a look at the hoot and holler section up front, they loved Palin. But as the camera panned up, to the elite seats, the real seats of power, all you could discern on those faces was horror, and the sound of wallets snapping shut were audible over the din of the crowd.

Why do you think McCain had trouble raising money? Why do you think he lost? Because the power brokers in the Republican party didn't want Palin within a heartbeat of the Oval Office anymore than we did, and did all they could to insure that she remained outside looking in.

They didn't want her then, and they don't want her now. The only thing that is keeping her up in the spotlight is hot air, and even that is starting to fail her.

[valerief]

61. Oh, if only! Must be her fans posting them. nt

[KittyLover]

62. I'm going to rec this.

Because I'm sick to death of this bitch. I don't like hearing about her, seeing her, or anything else Palin.

HOWEVER, I also see the other side of the coin. We have to keep a watchful eye on Caribou Barbi if we want to defeat her. All we mest do is report on the stupid crap she said whenever she struggles to log onto her computer, and find her Twitter account, or when she roams on to Faux. The beginning of the month was somewhat worrisome, and if we're not careful, we're going to have a big problem on our4 hands. Like it or not, this chick is turning heads. She does in fact, have support. While ever so tiny, it CANNOT build! That's why we follow Palin with a magnifying glass, MadHound. That's why Rachael, Big Ed, Malloy, Goldman, Mitchell, etc follow what she's doing. They all know she's dangerous. WE know she's dangerous. For her to get anywhere NEAR Pennsylvania Ave. would be a travesty of the highest order.

So basically, that's why we make sure to scrutinize, and put what a fool she is out in the open.

[goforit]

63. Ahhhhh.......Don't take our fun away...come on!

[Starry Messenger]

65. I hide all of them, as soon as they appear.

I think it is the Dems keeping her in the news, she would have gone away after 2008 if people had stopped talking about her. But if the party in power didn't have Palin for its catnip toy, they might have to admit that they don't have any new ideas.

[bettyellen]

70. I think the media loves her nasty little soundbites, and it has nothing to do with DU.

I don;t think we can be blamed at all for her coverage. I wish I believed that if we shut up she'd go away, but I don;t think that's the case at all.

[MadHound]

74. I'm not blaming DU for all her coverage, so stop shoving those words in my mouth

What I am saying is that we're doing more than our share of giving her publicity and attention, which is what she needs and craves. She is also serving as a convenient diversion from other, more important matters. This obsession with her around here has become counterproductive, distracting and unhealthy and I think that people should consider putting an end to it.

Any other words you want to try and shove in my mouth, or will you let me speak for myself now?

[bettyellen]

77. actually you keep insisting we are giving her tons of "publicity" and I totally dispute that

Where is the evidence the DU is having an influece on the MSM's love affair w/ all things Palin? Show me one link to the MSM that we have impacted, just one please.

Please refrain from the violent over the top imagery- paraphrasing you and quoting you is not "shoving " anything anywhere. It;s an attempt as reasoned discussion, and should not provoke this over the top anger. Try it with a little less hyperbole, less vitorol. You know, less like a Faux newsreader.

[MadHound]

82. Again, you belie your own words,

Now you are doing what you accuse me of, dictating what I should say and how I should say it.

Geez, you are a mess of contradictions aren't you.

PS, if you think that what I write here is violent over the top imagery, well, you've not been exposed to the world very much, have you. Have you ever thought that it is your own interpretation of my words that is the problem?

[bettyellen]

85. Actually I merely asked you for evidence to support your claims here.

And the response I got was over the top, personally insulting off topic bullshit. Whenever you want to back up your claims, I'll respond, but will continue to ignore the narrrow minded "my anger is bigger than yours" bullshit. Fuck this pointless divisive bullshit. Put up supporting arguement or go pick on someone who actually gives a fuck what you think. Because you haven;t given me a single reason to take you seriously.

[MadHound]

89. Well, considering that you came on with the rude and anger from your first post,

Why should I play nice with you? Sorry, but when you insult me, and are over the top rude, I'm not going to play nice with you. You don't like that, you want a civil conversation from me, then by God, start acting like a reasonable person yourself. I am not going to be kind to somebody whose first post in the thread implicates that I'm some sort of control freak and that my OP is offensive. Not a real good way to begin a calm, civil, rational conversation, not in my book.

Try being a bit less irritating, and you will find that others aren't as abrasive to you as well. You can disagree all you want, but to be insulting and rude is simply over the top. You don't like my response to you, tough shit, next time give me some grace of politeness and I will be polite to you. If not, oh well, no skin off my nose.

Bye, our conversation is going nowhere, since you started off with the rude, so I'm not going to continue to participate. So get your childish last little word of insult in, and perhaps this thread can move on to some more polite, rational, sane posters. Bye:hi:

[bettyellen]

92. Okay, so you can't; back up your claims or stand by anything you have said here. And you have

every excuse in the book why you shouldn;t have to participate in a rational discussion or keep check on the nasty tone or personal insults. So it's only okay when you do it, got it.
(and all because I pointed out that wanting to control the dialog is controlling? Thin skin much Miss Shove it?)
Yet you'd like to give us all pointers on proper discourse. Of course you do.

[Starry Messenger]

79. Mmm, I became suspicious after some Barbara Boxer fundletters came this election with Palin's name

invoked in the tagline. I like Barbara and I voted for her, but what I meant is the professional Dems are keeping Palin alive in the media and in the mind of voters by doing things just like that. She's a nice softball to the wheelhouse.

[bettyellen]

87. Well if she;s an embarrassment to the party, then I am fine wth it.

Unfortunately I knw a lot of people who are woefully ignorant about what a dumbass she truly is. I don;t feel like I learn enogh about that from the MSM, but then again, I don;t fixate or read 90% of the stuff about her here. I try to edit what I spend time on, you know.... there are a lot of topics here that I ignore for one reason or another. I just wish we did have the kind of impact that others imagine us to! Ha ha, I think the world would be a better place if we did. ANd maybe then, I;d want to join the scolds here, but I just don;t see us having that influence. I think if Boxer is talking about Palin, it;s because she is trying to sway Indies, not because we inspired her to. Thatls just my take on things.

[MadHound]

72. Thank you for making my point so succinctly

Hell, even her "friends" at Fox don't like her, but the liberal media and DU seem obsessed with her. Let her sink back into the oblivion she came from.

[WinkyDink]

71. Start new threads, and the Palin ones will drop off the front page.

[MadHound]

73. Been there, done that, doesn't work, they keep coming back, day in, day out, year in, year out

It is getting tiresome.

[Warren Stupidity]

75. If your post is any indication: no.

[Waiting For Everyman]

78. You're right.

I'm making an exception to my norm of ignoring threads about her by posting to this one... please, let's just "unrec" those threads without posting and let them fall - similar to "don't feed the trolls". I'm really tired of seeing her brought up on the news too. She is a creation of the media and yet every story includes something about her bashing it. Goes to show what an ungrateful hypocrite she is (among other much worse things).

Give the skank an attention boycott. Until and unless something about her is newsworthy, why the hell should we care? She's nothing but a Diversion To Nowhere.

[MadHound]

83. Thank you, nice to see that there is still common sense and intelligence on DU

n/t

[bettyellen]

103. the NT belongs in the subject line, it;s there so you know not to open the message eom

[Greyhound]

86. K&R. She is simply a distraction, just hide all the threads.

Every active republik I know (a lot) is betting on Romney as their 2012 candidate.
:kick: & R

[Zax2me]

93. I like to escape the insanity here (at DU) but you are right

I can't shun Palin Inc., including her freaking daughter on a reality show, when it pops up here time and again.
I know I can hide the threads but at times it is overwhelming.
I don't need to be reminded over and over of the train wreck that is Palin.
To me there is no debate and the sport of pointing her out has been played.

[whosinpower]

98. Sarah Palin is dead to me

And the only reason I read this whole post is because it is on the Greatest Page, and had allot of discussion.

In a nutshell, for me personally, Sarah Palin is a hypocrite, a shyster and a fraud. There is absolutely nothing regular, homedown, wholesome about her. She is a privilaged elite who whores her family and her "Palin Product" as just a regular God fearing hockey Mom. Nothing is further from the truth. And if that is not bad enough (I do not care for frauds or fake people) where the tire hits the road, and the going gets tough, as it did In Alaska) - she quits.

I do not watch her show. I did not watch her daughter. And when her voice is on the radio, I tune it out, and if she happens to be on TV - I switch channels. She is dead to me. And this is the last time I will speak of her.

[Canuckistanian]

101. OK, I won't post any

But I reserve my right to comment on Palin threads.

It's practically irresistible.

[Initech]

102. It makes me sick seeing/hearing about her.

[bigtree]

106. no. It's not that simple, unfortunately.

We stop responding and reacting, we surrender to the stupidity and the bullshit.

[Sugarcoated]

109. How can anyone argue against giving the Bush-in-a-dress less DU space?

Yet some here do! DU is a great place with a lot of great people, but a fair number of people come here to argue and bicker.

[bobburgster]

113. Palin talks about being president,

ridicules democrats, and promotes prejudice.

As far as I'm concerned she should be talked about on here.

[demwing]

115. Can we stop it with the "Stop It" posts? Wait, I just crossed myself.

but then again, so did you...

[watercolors]

116. I agree, completely!! Don't give her any print.

nt

[Bosso 63]

117. I confess that I find the Palin phenomenon fascinating,

Palin seems to be the archetype of something really strange and disturbing in our culture.
She is a relatively attractive woman with a personality disorder, and she has managed to capture the imagination of millions of people despite the absolutely insane things that come out of her mouth. And it's not just her, their are others such as Michele Bachmann, Marsha Blackburn,and Kristi Noem that seem to be out of the same mold. It is true, that they seem to feed off the attention like a vampire needs blood, but I also think it would be a mistake to ignore them.

[newtothegame]

118. Yeah I've never understood it.

For a woman we claimed was a "dumb bitch" who ruined the 2008 Neocon ticket, we sure do act scared of her.

[astral]

119. Have all Palin Posts moved to a Palin category.

: ) Anything anybody has to say about Sarah, her hubby, her kids, her almost kid-in-law . . . they can all go under PALIN. Then everyone who doesn't want to step in it can just stay out of that room.

Not that I care, really, but it would be okay with me.

It will be telling how busy that topic would be . . .

[jamiefoxer]

120. I hope she runs

she'll be so easy to beat.