The TSA in action

[Boudica the Lyoness]

Take a gander at this bullshit. :mad:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Gallery+Pat-downs+protests+get+personal+really+personal+at+U.S.+airports/3882760/story.html?tab=PHOT


And this;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOSHu-UpQmg

[LisaL]

1. WTF is their excuse of doing these pat downs in public?

At the very least they could have provided privacy screens.

[sabrina 1]

2. Chertoff is smiling. All that money the ACLU stopped him from eanring

over the past five years, until last year when Democrats with the help of Civil Rights organizations succeeded in doing what the left managed to stop the Bush administration for five years.

Rapiscan, yes they really did name their company that appropriately, has made a fortune in just one year.

I'm hearing that MY outrage, which is about six years old regarding these abuses of our Constitutional rights, is a result of astro-turfing, and a 'rightwing plot' to embarrass this administration. Which means that the ACLU has been part of the plot for six years now.

Disgusting abuses of our civil rights, using fear to help the fear-profiteers make even more money they can spend on buying even more of our elected officials. I am proud of my long opposition to this. But very sad that Democrats refuse to stand up for our rights, choosing instead to stand up for Corporate America.

Rec'd although it didn't register for some reason.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

13. I'm very upset that some people here

don't have a problem with this.

I don't like abuse and I don't care if it's Democrats or the Republicans doing it, wrong is wrong.

I do have a feeling if McCain was president and this was going on, the people on this board who now support the TSA abuse, would be outraged. They are hypocrites.

[sabrina 1]

18. Yes, they would be. They WERE back in 2004 when under Bush

'enhanced pat-downs' were stopped because of the outrage, mostly from the left. Hypocrisy is right.

[DemReadingDU]

25. Rape-scan

These nudie scanners and TSA assaults are soooo wrong.

[awoke_in_2003]

28. damn rightists at the ACLU...

:)

[LibDemAlways]

3. There isn't an American who shouldn't be outraged by this shit.

The picture of the elderly woman forced out of her wheelchair for a groping is especially hideous. What ever happened to common sense?

I realize that most of those people bought tickets weeks or months ago before these new outrages came to light. I hope their experience was unpleasant enough that they take the time to complain about it to the ACLU, elected officials, and airlines. The airlines, especially, need to hear from the public that they will drastically curtail discretionary air travel until this stops - and then follow through. If people keep acting like sheep and meekly going along, they'll find themselves dropping trou and spreading cheeks the next time they fly.

[Individualist]

5. Agree.

Yet some are catapulting the propaganda for increasing fascism.

:puke:

[LibDemAlways]

8. There are some here on DU who are now reflexively arguing

in favor of this crap because the rightwing has belatedly and opportunistically latched onto it. Doesn't make it right. I've been vocal in my opposition since it started and have no plans to back down now. This is the encroaching police state and Americans ought to be fighting it at every step.

[awoke_in_2003]

29. no, they are arguing in favor...

because it is happening under a democratic president. They did the same thing with Obama's surge- Bush surge bad, Obama surge good. But what the fuck do I know, I am leftist who is mentally challenged and needing a urinalysis.

[awoke_in_2003]

30. no, they are arguing in favor...

because it is happening under a democratic president. They did the same thing with Obama's surge- Bush surge bad, Obama surge good. But what the fuck do I know, I am leftist who is mentally challenged and needing a urinalysis.

[TorchTheWitch]

15. There's a one paragraph "story" at the first link...

"New Transportation Security Administration's (TSA) screening procedures aren't going over well with many travellers during the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday. The TSA has been flooded with complaints concerning what some term their law-enforcement style pat downs of passengers opting-out of full-body scans."

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Gallery+downs+protests+personal+really+personal+airports/3882760/story.html#ixzz16QBmtpic


At least now people are complaining... and the more it goes on the more the complaints.


On Edit: OMG! That woman they made get out of her wheelchair!!!! WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK????



And notice how in most of these photos the agents are doing the OLD pat-down with the back of the hand.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

4. Absolutely revolting.

I really don't think I could tolerate it. A total disregard for citizen's dignity and civil rights.

Watching those wheelchair bound older women treated in this manner just infuriates me.

[lunatica]

6. Thanks for posting this

This shit is for a false sense of safety. The next terrorist suicide bomb will come while he/she is being patted down in a crowded airport.

[goforit]

7. And in broad daylight in public.

[tblue37]

9. Personally, I would rather not let the TSA agents get me alone, with no witnesses.

That said, however, I must say the agent in that video was very respectful and professional in her demeanor. The whole business is absurd and demeaning, but at least that particular agent was clearly NOT on a power trip, the way some of them are.

[LisaL]

10. You can request a witness.

[TorchTheWitch]

26. what about all the millions of people who fly alone?

Frankly, I'd feel less comfortable being felt up by one agent while another one watched, and I sure wouldn't want some random stranger passanger watching either.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

11. I see people who have worked hard all their lives

Always done the right thing. Been polite courteous and kind to their fellow man. Raised their children right, teaching them right from wrong. Always saying please and thank you. Paying their taxes. They have always believed that if you work hard, obey the law and always do the right then you won't get in trouble and you will be respected.

And now their are being publicly humiliated. They are forced to stand there as some stranger touches them in places that are very private. They have to let a person that got the job as a TSA worker by applying for a job they saw on a pizza box, feel their breasts and genitals, feel and peer down the front of their pants as other people look on. Everything they have taught their children suddenly means nothing.

What the hell as it all been for?

If the government is so concerned about our safety then why don't we have universal healthcare?

[avaistheone1]

12. It's worse than that - people are pretty much treated like criminals.

[Individualist]

14. True. All are presumed guilty until proven innocent by scope and grope.

Wouldn't it be nice to see the old fashioned innocent until proven guilty practice again.

[avaistheone1]

17. Yeah. There was something proudly American about that approach.

:kick:

[AsahinaKimi]

20. +1

spot on.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

16. The commentators on MSNBC seemed against the TSA abuse,

then, I think it was on Monday, Chris Mathews tried to spin the protests as RW 'only' outrage. The next day it seemed that was the spin they were putting on it at MSNBC.

I read somewhere that the porno scan machines are build by GE and GE owns NBC. Has anyone else heard about GE's involvement in the building or design of the abusive porno scan machines?

[Agent William]

19. Enhanced pat-down, Enhanced interrogation,

I'm just waiting for 'enhanced freedom'

Congrats on making it over a 1,000 posts

[Boudica the Lyoness]

21. Freedom frisks

It took me almost 10 years to make 1,000 posts but this TSA thing has got me fired up.

If it was President McCain now instead of President Obama, DU would be 100% against the TSA abuse. As it is most Democrats know the difference between right and wrong and are not idiotically partisan like a few here.

:) at you William.

[awoke_in_2003]

32. ever since the passage of the patriot act...

and establishment of the fatherland, I mean homeland security we have had "enhanced freedom"

[RoccoR5955]

22. This is FALSE security. I predict that the next bombing...

Will not be on an airplane, but in an unsecured area of the airport. Someone's gonna slip a bomb in there, and BOOM goes the dynamite. They'll do it on a major travel day. The terrorists have won anyway, they managed to get the government to spend tons of money on this, and they are taking away the citizens' freedom. That's just what they wanted.

[DemReadingDU]

23. or a bomb in the cargo belly of the plane

The get people to feel safe via the nudie scanners and or groped by the TSA handlers. Then, boom goes the plane...

11/16/10 "It is a gaping hole in the nation’s anti-terrorism security system, experts say. About 22 percent of all U.S. packages shipped via air cargo are finding their way into the bellies of passenger jets, according to the General Accounting Office. Yet, there is little or no screening of such parcels.
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/blog/broadway_17th/2010/11/air-travel-today-doesnt-scan-for.html

11/2/10 Only 20% of cargo to U.S. checked for bombs
Billions of pounds of packages bound for the U.S. each year are delivered on passenger flights in which cargo is checked with an electronic system that does not screen for bombs, lawmakers and security experts said Monday.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-11-02-1Acargobombs02_ST_N.htm
http://homelandsecuritynewswire.com/only-20-percent-us-bound-cargo-screened-bombs

11/2/10 In Air Cargo Business, It’s Speed vs. Screening, Creating a Weak Link in Security
It is an essential lubricant of the global economy — the multibillion-dollar air cargo industry, which every day carries millions of express packages of every shape and size around the world, parcels that can include things as diverse as an electronic component and a human body part. But the discovery last week that terrorists had used United Parcel Service and FedEx to ship two explosive devices has set off a debate over what can be done to improve cargo security without damaging a business built on getting packages anywhere, quickly and cheaply.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/business/02cargo.html

[Boudica the Lyoness]

27. Yep the terrorists have won.

I bet they are really laughing at us.

[Agent William]

24. BTW, K&R

n/t

[woo me with science]

31. OUTRAGEOUS.

They must be STOPPED.

I am enraged with this President. This cannot stand.