Marines the biggest opponents of lifting ban on gay troops

[defendandprotect]

Marine pushback to permitting openly gay military


By JULIE WATSON, Associated Press Julie Watson, Associated Press – Fri Nov 26, 1:39 pm ET
OCEANSIDE, Calif. – They are the few, the proud and perhaps the military's biggest opponents of lifting the ban on openly gay troops.

Most of those serving in America's armed forces have no strong objections to repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" law, according to a Pentagon survey of 400,000 active duty and reservists that is scheduled for release Tuesday.

But the survey found resistance to repealing the ban strongest among the Marines, according to the Washington Post. It's an attitude apparently shared by their top leader, Commandant Gen. James Amos, who has said that the government should not lift the ban in wartime.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gays_marine_corps


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Because they're no such thing as a gay Marine -- ???

:rofl:

[the redcoat]

1. This whole "during ____ " thing is getting fucking old

Can't grant equal rights to human beings "in wartime," even in the supposedly land of the free

Can't let tax cuts expire for the rich "during a recession" when the latest numbers show corporations are making record profits

Next it's going to be: Can't have healthcare reform while people are sick.

[EFerrari]

2. I hope the Marines deal with al Qaida better than they deal with

openly gay troops. :)

[bluestateguy]

3. Um, so?

???

[EFerrari]

5. The Marines are the only branch that is pushing back against equality.

You don't think that deserves comment? What is your deal?

[bluestateguy]

6. We have civilian control of the military in this country

So I really don't give a damn what the uniformed military thinks about a personnel policy that is made by the president and Congress.

Once the policy is changed, I expect prompt and immediate compliance with it, AND without bitching, complaining or condescension from the Marines or any other service branch.

[Ron Green]

4. Fear manifests itself in many ways.

[donheld]

7. Marines are afraid of being shown up by a bunch of Gay guys.

[WillParkinson]

8. More like...

Marines are afraid that if gays can serve without hiding then they can't get some on the down low anymore.

[Behind the Aegis]

10. DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!!!

TWO WORDS....

Camp Pendleton

ok..two more....

Power bottoms!

[msongs]

9. lol marines are full of closet case gay men who think being a marine will cure them nt

[EFerrari]

11. Andy and Ann on GayUSA have said more than once

that the Marines is the gayest branch of the military. I defer to their greater wisdom.

[KeepItReal]

12. Oh dayumm

The Marines will fall in line with what they are ordered to do.

The longer it drags out the worse it makes the Executive branch look.

[pinboy3niner]

14. Respondents may not be aware that there already ARE gay Marines

I knew one gay former Marine who served three tours in Vietnam, most of it as a combat Infantry squadleader.

I also met a transgender Marine who was a VN combat Infantry vet (and probably not the only woman entitled to wear the USMC's Combat Action Ribbon, though it does attract attention when she wears it).

[LostinNY]

13. My brother

Was in the Marines for 8 years, and his niece on his wife's side is a lesbian that wants to enlist. He's encouraged her to and said she'd be a great Marine. I don't like the idea because I'm not real keen on WAR, but that's not my decision. She's out only to family, so DADT wouldn't apply, but that could always change. That's just my brothers opinion but he's pretty conservative.

[Tesha]

15. "And, thank Gawd, from here on out, it'll *ALWAYS* be War!" (NT)

[LiberalFighter]

16. Those in the Marines that feel that way should determine what their attitude is towards gays

and drop that level another 50% that they should be considered when others look at them.

[eppur_se_muova]

17. ...apart from the Marines, they're all dead butch.

(Pull back to show that 'Mary' is part of a sign saying: 'Mary Recruitment Office'. Pull out to reveal that it is a sign over a shop as for 'army recruiting office'. An R.S.M. with waxed moustache and snappy straight-against-the-firehead peaked cap comes out of the shop. He hangs a clearly printed sign on a nail on the door. It reads: 'Sketch just starting - actor wanted'.)

Voice Over (John Cleese): Sketch just starting, actor wanted.

(The R.S.M. looks up and down the road, glances up at the sign above his shop without noticing it. He goes inside again. A man walks up, reads the sign and enters. He is Mr Man.)

Mr Man (Eric Idle): Good morning.

R.S.M. (Graham Chapman): Morning, sir.

Mr Man: I'd like to join the army please.

R.S.M.: I see. Short service or long service commission, sir?

Mr Man: As long as possible please.

R.S.M.: Right well I'll just take a few particulars and then...

(Suddenly he looks as though a dim memory has penetrated his skull. He breaks off, looking thoughtful, walks towards the door and exits. He comes out of shop, looks up at word 'Mary', tuts and changes the letters round to read 'Army'. He suddenly looks round and we see a queue of nuns.)

R.S.M.: Shove off! (he goes back inside) Then there'll be a few forms to sign, and of course we'll need references and then a full medical examination by the ...

Mr Man: Yes. Yes, yes I see. (diffidently) I was just wondering whether it would be possible for me to join... the women's army?

R.S.M.: The Women's Royal Army Corps, sir?

Mr Man: Yes. I was just thinking, you know, if it was possible for me to have my choice ... I'd prefer to be in the Women's Royal Amy Corps.

R.S.M.: Well, I'm afraid that the people that recruit here normally go straight into the Scots Guards.

Mr Man: Which is all... men... I suppose?

R.S.M.: Yes it is.

Mr Man: Yes. Are there any regiments which are more effeminate than others?

R.S.M.: Well, no sir. I mean, apart from the Marines, they're all dead butch.

Mr Man: You see, what I really wanted was a regiment where I could be really quiet and have more time to myself to work with fabrics, and creating new concepts in interior design.

R.S.M.: Working with fabrics and experimenting with interior design!

Mr Man: Yes.

R.S.M.: Oh well you want the Durham Light Infantry then, sir.

Mr Man: Oh.

R.S.M.: Oh yes. That's the only regiment that's really doing something new with interior design, with colour, texture, line and that.

Mr Man: I see.

R.S.M.: Oh yes, I mean their use of colour with fabrics is fantastic. I saw their pattern book the other day - beautiful, beautiful. Savage tans, great slabs of black set against aggressive orange. It really makes you want to shout out, this is good! This is real!

Mr Man: Really?

R.S.M.: Oh yes. I mean the Inniskillin Fusiliers and the Anglian Regiment are all right if you're interested in the art nouveau William Morris revival bit, but if you really want a regiment of the line that is really saying something about interior decor, then you've got to go for the Durham Light Infantry.

Mr Man:. Oh, I've had enough of this. I'm handing in my notice.

R.S.M.: What do you mean?

Mr Man: Well I mean, when I applied for this job I thought I'd get a few decent lines but you end up doing the whole thing. I mean my last five speeches have been 'really, really - I see - I see' and 'really'. I wouldn't give those lines to a dog.

R.S.M.: All right, all right, all right, sonny. I'll tell you what. We'll do something different. I'll be a bus conductor, and you can be a really funny passenger on a bus.

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