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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:48 AM
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That Hearts And Minds Stuff Isn't Working Very Well
unhappycamper note: Since the ‘Pentagon’ (DoD? Gannett?) has ‘requested’ that I only post one paragraph from articles on Army Times, and Airforce Times, To keep in that same (new) tradition, I will also do the same for for articles on Navy Times, Marine Corps Times, stripes.com and military.com.
To read the article in the military's own words, you will need to click the link.

Read all about Fair Use here. It sure is beginning to smell like fascism.

unhappycamper summary of this article:







Lance Cpl. David Hopkins of India Company, 3rd Battalion 5th Marines, patrols on Nov. 12 in Sangin, Afghanistan. Residents of Helmand province’s Sangin district claim Marines have killed numerous civilians since making a push into the district in October, a charge Marines say is without merit.


Marines deny killing civilians in Sangin
By Sebastian Abbot - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Nov 26, 2010 16:17:15 EST

But the Marines acknowledge that unless they can change people’s minds, they stand little chance of winning the local support necessary to tame a key area of Afghanistan that has been the deadliest place for coalition troops this year.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:57 AM
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1. The Afghans are lying! Now LOVE us!
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prodigals0n Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:13 AM
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2. I can't believe this
How could this be? Things are working out so well in Iraq.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/world/middleeast/27refugees.html?hp

Iraq’s Troubles Drive Out Refugees Who Came Back

"A second exodus has begun here, of Iraqis who returned after fleeing the carnage of the height of the war, but now find that violence and the nation’s severe lack of jobs are pulling them away from home once again.

Since the American invasion in 2003, refugees have been a measure of the country’s precarious condition, flooding outward during periods of violence and trickling back as Iraq seemed to stabilize. This new migration shows how far the nation remains from being stable and secure.

Abu Maream left Iraq after a mortar round killed his brother-in-law in 2005. Amar al-Obeidi left when insurgents threatened to kill him and raided his shops. Hazim Hadi Mohammed al-Tameemi left because the doctors who treated his wife’s ovarian cancer had fled the country.

All three joined the flow of refugees who returned as violence here ebbed. But now they want to leave again."


More at the link.
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:57 AM
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3. The big winner of the war in Iraq is Iran.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:19 AM
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4. Is there anyone who really thought it would?
K & R
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 11:21 AM
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5. Leftwing propaganda. They love us! Love the freedom! Rec'd n/t
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