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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:46 AM
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TSA hysteria
Just went through security at SEATAC. No groping experienced or seen. Xray machines not in use. TSA people friendly and helpful.

Over the past few days there have been some very unworthy comments here. They really lower the bar at DU.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:47 AM
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1. yeah...your one experience makes all the other ones void... n/t
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:48 AM
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2. The "lowered bar" was in the creation of the TSA and DHS
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 08:49 AM by ixion
It really doesn't matter, in the Big Picture, if you're personally disturbed by it or not, in my opinion.

And the REAL HYSTERIA goes to the proponents of crap like this under the guise of the so-called 'wars' on 'terror' and (some) drugs.

Fighting shadows on the wall, my friend, is textbook hysteria.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:49 AM
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3. Don't worry, there will be a nude scanner coming to your airport soon
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:49 AM
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4. First rec (apparently).
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:50 AM
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5. TSA reacted to the outrage and their own fear of major disruptions
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 08:53 AM by hlthe2b
by taking the scanners out of service and backing down on most of their procedures during the Holidays. Your experience really has no bearing on the wider issue, but I am glad for you you had no problems. That said, your opinion is just that, an opinion based on an experience of one and considerably illogical to think your one experience speaks for the wider world of all travelers, don't you think?.
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:56 AM
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8. This is nothing more than a temporary quiet retreat for the holidays and a strategy to push it off
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 08:57 AM by Segami
the Networks/newspapers leading news stories.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:54 AM
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6. Hysteria? Hardly
Many of the stories posted about some of the most intrusive searches were true...so are people's concerns about how their personal liberties are being violated in the ruse of being "safe" despite the criticisms of most air travel experts.

So you lucked out this time. Many airports to keep the lines moving and from having incidents recorded by local newscrews went back to the old system, but be assured the new scanners and pat downs will be SOP. When you're singled out of line in front of people and taken away or put under "supicion" cause something doesn't look "right". Our airports have been turned into prisons. Now if you like that, enjoy your trip.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:55 AM
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7. It's all done to create an illusion anyway
As long as people THINK tbey're safe, they will put up with any inconvenience or indignity.

But if they don't think they're safe, they might quit flying.

And that would be very unfortunate for the airlines, and by extension for the politicians they support.

That's why we have the Department of Fatherland Security in the first place.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:08 AM
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9. TSA and DEA have Unlimited Money and no supervision...
.. this is crazy.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:13 AM
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10. There is snow on the ground here. It looks like Al Gore lied.
SEATAC != everywhere.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:20 AM
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11. Scanner off -> No opt-out question asked -> No invasive patdown
but the scanners are soooo necessary for security during the busiest time of the year.... :sarcasm:
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:53 AM
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15. +1
Almost a year AFTER the underwear bomber ... and now women with pantyliners are being subjected to gropings because some guy looking at the screen couldn't see her vulva clearly.

:grr:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:34 AM
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12. so, in summary, nothing to see here, move along.
ok.

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:36 AM
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13. LOL--
You had a good experience... everybody move on--- no problem here---Turbineguy had a good experience.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 09:36 AM
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14. K&R...
agreed. Some DU'ers have gone right round the bend.

Sid
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