The intelligence community of The United States of America is being played for fools today T/F

[bobthedrummer]

Poll question: The intelligence community of The United States of America is being played for fools today T/F

Largely as the result of politicization, paramiltarization and corruption all of our once dominant alphabet soup intelligence community are being played for idiots. Our still supreme technical intelligence gathering hardware is in the hands of fanatics.

Below is but another example, an article from yesterday's (11-26-10) The Guardian

US General McChrystal approved peace talks with fake Taliban leader
American NATO commander asked MI6 to develop contacts
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/26/us-general-mcchrystal-taliban-impostor

A real change, believe me, is coming as a result of these intentional policy shifts that have harmed US and the rest of the world.
Real harm from policy shifts like-so how's that surge working, nice infrastructure for a police state here in Homeland, Inc., no rule of law for "leaders" on down, money trumps peace, 9/11 was caused by an "intelligence failure"/LIHOP, etc.


True or false.
Opinions are welcomed, as always

[old mark]

1. Other - they ARE fools, no play involved...after the "Cold War", US

intelligence agencies nearly completely abandoned uses of "Humint" - human intelligence gathering or spies and agents in place all over the world, the use of which had had some success over the years since WWII. They instead relied completely on "Elint" - Electronic Intelligence-gathered via signal intercepts and sattelite imaging. This has been very costly and not especially effective, but the agencies continue to use this method because it is stylishly high tech and they can justify huge expenses of cash for the latest equipment.

It does not work well, but it looks cool as all hell.


mark

[bobthedrummer]

2. Yep, duly noted in my OP old mark-that bit about supreme technical intel in the hands of fanatics

I was among many harmed by politicized domestic black ops more than 40 years ago when a government sanctioned criminal operative and his network literally got away with murder despite being one target of a federal grand jury.

That's the main reason that I pay attention to the intelligence community and it's "hidden history".

Below are some examples of why the call for reform was never acted on after Watergate-and today it's "privatized" so that more "government sanctioned" murder and mayhem keeps an orderly flow of the transfer of wealth to those too big to fail.

Supplementary Detailed Staff Reports On Intelligence Activities And The Rights Of Americans
Book III
Final Report of the Select Committee (aka The Church Committee)
to Study Governmental Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities
United States Senate
April 23, 1976
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIi.htm

The Pike Committee (House of Representatives investigation of domestic intelligence abuse never officially released)
Profile: Pike Committee
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=_pike_committee_1

The Pike Committee (DU thread started 3-11-08)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2990965

That's why intelligence community related topics get a lot of my attention, because of the harm caused by politicized criminal networks hiding behind the national security shield.

I, for one, am encouraged to see the release of docs from sites like Wikileaks.

[Swamp Rat]

3. k&r

[bobthedrummer]

4. WikiLeaks kick n/t