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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:07 PM
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A Serbian Film is 'most cut' movie in 16 years by British Board of Film Classification
The dark thriller, which features disturbing scenes of violence and sex, has had four minutes and 11 seconds of its original content removed.

A BBFC spokeswoman said: "A number of cuts were required to remove elements of sexual violence that tend to eroticise or endorse sexual violence."

The film is scheduled for UK release on the 10 December, although distributors Revolver Entertainment said it does not yet know how many cinemas it will be shown in.

"The company recognises that the film is an uncompromising, artistic and political statement from a unique film-making vision and remains fully supportive to the director.

Film critic Scott Weinberg wrote: "I think the film is tragic, sickening, disturbing, twisted, absurd, infuriated, and actually quite intelligent.

"I admire and detest it at the same time. And I will never watch it again. Ever."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11846906
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:08 PM
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1. Apparently a DU hiccup
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 04:10 PM by Hawkeye-X
OP posted once, not 4 times.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:09 PM
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2. i just posted it once
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:09 PM
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3. Hmm
Must be a DU hiccup. I'll delete previous message. I did see 4 of the same posts...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:11 PM
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6. yeah, they came on at the same time i posted the one time
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:11 PM
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7. yeah, they came on at the same time i posted the one time
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:10 PM
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4. Just a glitch.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:11 PM
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5. Sounds interesting but not something I can watch. Thanks n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:12 PM
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8. why not ? i'm interested now just to see what it is
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:18 PM
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9. I just saw "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" last week
The rape scenes left me very distraught. War perversion does the same thing. I think part of it too is that consumers refuse to face the horrors of war in real life but enjoy watching it on film. That saddens me.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:09 PM
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12. That's a good movie.
But that if that made you uncomfortable never EVER watch A Serbian Film. It's not the most disturbing film I've seen (that goes the movie Men Behind The Sun, about Japanese medical atrocities on Koreans and Chinese at the end of WW2), but this is close. Part of me likes that a movie this bloody audacious was even made, and part of me trembles for our fate that it was.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:25 PM
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13. It was. I especially liked her revenge
I don't quite understand it myself because I can watch the most atrocious documentaries without squirming but not films :shrug:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:40 PM
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15. I'm pretty much the opposite.
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 06:40 PM by Forkboy
Even a movie like the one we're discussing doesn't totally hit me because I know, underneath it all, that it's all fake. Regardless of the ideas on display, none of it is real. And being a huge fan of FX work, I'm even further separated from what's on screen because i know how most FX are done.

I used to be freaked by horror movies until I was 15 and read about the Holocaust, and started to really delve into that madness and what drove it (hint:it wasn't Satan or evil...it was us). Since then no movie has scared me or truly disturbed me. No movie can ever match the true horror that we're capable of inflicting on others.

Having said that, you still shouldn't watch this movie. :)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:58 PM
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17. You'd Be Amazed At What's Really Going On In Eastern Europe
and other places. What goes on in this film may not be real *in this film,* but there are some very, VERY dark corners of the internet where pretty much nothing is out of bounds.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:03 PM
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18. Oh I know.
That's part of the appeal/disgust with a film like this. How much is truly out there, and how much is close to the truth?
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:09 PM
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19. I just watched the trailer. I flinched about 5 times.
The shot with the hyperdermic needle was unbearable.

To make things worse, I just found the whole film online. Thankfully, I'm too technically incompetent to figure it out. I'll sleep well tonight :hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:10 PM
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20. That was one of the easy going, laid back scenes.
:scared:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 04:34 PM
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10. Ugh, I will never be able to watch that movie.
:puke:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:03 PM
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11. A surprisingly interesting movie, though I fully know few will see it that way.
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 06:05 PM by Forkboy
I admire and detest it at the same time.

This is actually one of the more fitting responses to it that I've seen, and one that captures my own feelings pretty well. I consider myself a hardcore horror fan (which is why it was my duty to watch this lol), and this movie made me seriously uncomfortable. That's both praise and damnnation from me. It's a seriously fucked up movie, one that I wouldn't recommend to any but the most hardened of hardened horror fans, and even many of those will have issues here.

Here's a tremendously interesting review of the movie, where the reviewer watches it with his wife. The transcription of their conversation is fascinating to me.
http://www.bloodsprayer.com/reviews/movies/brutality-and-bloodshed-for-all-the-lasting-effects-of-a-serbian-film/
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:29 PM
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14. where did you see the film?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:41 PM
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16. Hunted it down online.
Copies are kicking about.
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markfall Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:50 PM
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21. It was a giant piece of garbage.
The whole movie was nothing but a self one-upping fest of sex and violence. The plot was juvenile at best and a real bore as a whole. If it were made in America, folks would be talking about how hostel/saw esque films are played out and boring, but its European, so folks are falling all over themselves to praise it as some sort of cinematic tour de force.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 07:57 PM
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22. "The whole movie was nothing but a self one-upping fest of sex and violence"
You say that as if it were a bad thing!!!!
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markfall Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:07 PM
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23. it was
When it was presented as something more than that.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:29 PM
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25. By who? Even the most hardened of hardened horror reporters have been iffy on this one.
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 08:30 PM by Forkboy
Other than calling it the "Most shocking movie of all time", which about 7,309 other movies have also been called, I don't see how it's been presented as anything other than what it is. A shocking horror movie. I think this movie is ripe for people buying into the hype, and either hating it without watching it, or praising it without watching it. Much like The Human Centipede (another flick not as bad as some want to admit, and not as good as other want to claim).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying your own opinion of the movie is invalid. I truly understand why most would find nothing in this worthwhile. It's not your opinion of the movie that's off, it's your projection on why others watch it. I'm a hardcore horror guy, I follow this stuff daily (my fave online sites are all horror and sci-fi related), and not once have I seen someone praise this movie or buy into it just because it's European and arty. In fact, I've seen very little praise for it at all, except as I do, in the sense that it's fucked that anyone would even make a movie like this in the first place. I'd feel the same way had it been American made.

I like things that push boundaries, even when it makes me uncomfortable to have those boundaries pushed. This movie does that, for good or ill.

But all these things are subjective. I admit to liking things many people would shun, movie-wise and music-wise especially, just for the very reason that it's shunned. Like I say, if your view is that this is garbage that's valid. Just don't bite off more than you can chew on the reasons why some watch it and get something from it beyond what you did. :toast:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 08:17 PM
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24. For some, "Anyone could do this, but nobody did until now" = art
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 08:34 PM by jpgray
For me, "Almost nobody could do this, but everybody wishes they could" = art. You can make a film wherein you smear an aborted fetus with your shit and rape its eye-socket with a bladed dildo pretty easily, given a budget, actors and crew. Uwe Boll could do it. To make something like Smiles of a Summer Night or Diary of a Country Priest or Viridiana takes much more. The fact that the former is shocking is enough to make some deem it "important art;" negative reactions will only solidify their belief in its power and deep meaning.

edit: Removed some douchiness.
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