What do you make of these tweets by Wikileaks

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Clinton talks to China, others about WikiLeak

By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press

WASHINGTON – Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has reached out to several countries about the expected release of classified State Department cables by the WikiLeaks website.

Clinton reached out to leaders in Germany, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Britain, France and Afghanistan, spokesman P.J. Crowley said in a tweet Friday evening.

Separately, Crowley confirmed that Clinton spoke Friday by phone with Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi about the release.

He said U.S. diplomats were warning foreign governments about what the documents may contain. The cables are thought to include candid assessments of foreign leaders and governments and could erode trust in the U.S. as a diplomatic partner.

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What do you think Wikileaks' objective is?

[Poboy]

1. Their objective, of course, is to take down Obama.

:sarcasm:

[ProSense]

3. I meant

seriously.

[PBS Poll-435]

2. Chaos nt

[Pavulon]

4. strokin' that ego.

they want to fuck the us over thats fine. However they should expect a response, and not a rape charge. This will be a few days of news cycle and then our money fixing what these morons fuck up.

[northernlights]

17. our money is already paying for what the morons fuck up

Maybe now we'll find out exactly who the morons are, and exactly how and what they fucked up. How they fucked *us* over, as well as the rest of the world.

We'll find out exactly how criminal and thuggish a bully we are around the world. Or rather, how criminal and thuggish our government is...using our money.

[Pavulon]

19. Nope you still wont know shit

if you think we are the world criminal there is no hope for you. You will know what assange tells you.

[Catherina]

5. Lookis like the US is in full damage control mode. This is going to be good.

Government of Iceland has been contacted by US officials over Embassy leaks according to MBL.
about 23 hours ago via web

9:43 AM Nov 26th via web .UK Government has issued a "D-notice" warning to all UK news editors, asking to be briefed on upcoming WikiLeaks stories.

9:13 AM Nov 26th via web .US briefs Russia over embassy cables according to Moscow press.

9:09 AM Nov 26th via web .US briefs Iraq, Turkey over embassy cables according to AFP, Turkish media

8:41 AM Nov 26th via web .Poster: "One Word of Truth Outweighs the Whole World" http://is.gd/hNNul

9:10 PM Nov 25th via web .Poster: "Intelligence needs Counter-Intelligence" http://is.gd/hNN6x

9:07 PM Nov 25th via web .Israel contacted by US Embassy in Tel Aviv over presumed pending release according to Haaretz

8:48 PM Nov 25th via web .Now is a good time to download some "history insurance" https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5723136/WikiLeaks_insurance

5:04 PM Nov 25th via web .Norway briefed by US on WikiLeaks according to NRK (state TV)

4:38 PM Nov 25th via web .Denmark briefed by US Ambassador on WikiLeaks according to Danish press

4:38 PM Nov 25th via web .Canada briefed by US Ambassador according to CBC

4:36 PM Nov 25th via web .Australian Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd briefed by Hillary Clinton on Wikileaks, according to SMH

4:36 PM Nov 25th via web .Sky reports US Ambassador visits Downing Street in advance of Wikileaks document release

4:34 PM Nov 25th via web .NYT briefed the Whitehouse on Monday over Embassy Files: Now we see every tinpot dictator in the world briefed prior to release.

3:56 PM Nov 25th via web .WikiLeaks in today's media http://wlcentral.org/

3:22 PM Nov 25th via web .Should WikiLeaks expose the world's secret diplomatic backroom dealings? Put it to the vote! http://is.gd/hN4Jh

3:21 PM Nov 25th via web .The Pentagon is hyperventilating again over fears of being held to account: http://is.gd/hGnSS

10:23 PM Nov 23rd via web .Afghan War Diaries now on Google Fusion Tables http://tables.googlelabs.com/DataSource?dsrcid=224453

10:37 AM Nov 22nd via web .The coming months will see a new world, where global history is redefined. Keep us strong: http://is.gd/hzbIa
9:35 PM Nov 21st via web

[Pavulon]

6. Good for whom? And please dont post something about truth, morality,

or similar children's table discussion. who benefits from this?

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[xchrom]

10. So you mean exposing corruption and lies

And more by the status quo is really about wikileaks
And assange?

Who did the initial shit that got us into this world of hurt benefit?
That's REAL question.

[Catherina]

12. Good for those who care about the truth and morality

Good for world peace to see the lies, machinations and backroom deals come to light.


I think I'm entitled to post whatever the hell I want to when it's posted under my name pavulon.

[Pavulon]

13. Go for it, morality is used by both sides where fact is lacking. Talk money and power

and you sound credible. Fred Phelps plays with morality, he is a fucking moron. Diplomats require secrecy to conduct business. So who benefits from this dump?

[ProSense]

22. "Good for world peace to see the lies, machinations and backroom deals come to light. "

How do you know it's good for world peace?

It could be, but what if it isn't?

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[Mr Rabble]

30. Who benefits? The entire planet.

I cant believe that this is even being asked?

Who benefits from US war crimes, bullying, and other empire sustaining tactics?
How about we ask it this way-

Who is benefiting from the course of US policy now? How much of the US or world population agrees with what the US leadership is doing abroad? How do you feel your government has represented you over the last 30 years?

The next question is this- how could this leak possibly make the position of the US leadership worse? I cant. Our leaders are, and have been, war criminals and social pariah's for years. The policies that our leaders pursue, are designed to be harmful to the population, of which I claim membership. So, I think that exposing the rot is exactly what should be done.

Luckily, I happen to have one small faction on my side- we call ourselves "the majority of the US population".

[Pavulon]

31. Diplomatic cables about the British PM

boy that is a world shattering revelation.

The majority would see manning shot in the head and assange and crew killed outright. The smarter people would see the flaws in that approach.

[Forkboy]

32. Would you like to see Assange killed outright?

[Pavulon]

33. No. But that is a risk when you play in the space he is in.

he is an intelligence agency without a state. Killing him is useless, it would require the coordinated killing of everyone participating in his agency. Recursion would be required.

That is a bit much for us these days, Russia, Israel, or someone operating with tacit approval would be a reasonable response to a compromise of their channels.

Sorry, those are the breaks.

[Forkboy]

34. I'm sure he gets this.

The question I have is whether or not you rooted for this. Your posts on the topic suggest you do indeed like the idea of him getting killed by some country or other. Am I wrong? And if so, how do you account for some of your own words on the topic regarding Assange's well being? I mean, color me revolutionary, but when you say "Sorry, those are the breaks" I don't think you're really sorry at all. So, am I right or wrong? Would his death over this stuff bother you, or would you see it as a plus?

[Pavulon]

35. Sounds like a morals call to me..

(nt)

[Forkboy]

36. Would you know if it was?

[Mr Rabble]

38. "largest document dump ever" is hardly cables to a British PM.

Either you are intentionally and selectively pulling out "1" possible document to avoid the fact that this is supposed to be a MASSIVE release, or you have not bother to actually read any of what Wikileaks has said so far.

Which is it?

[Pavulon]

39. Nothing they dumped so far was not covered in the NY Times prior

except people's names of course.

[laughingliberal]

9. +1

:)

[Individualist]

18. +1

[laughingliberal]

7. No way to know until it's out there. I'm waiting to see the releases regarding Columbia. nt

[Codeine]

11. Colombia. nt

[laughingliberal]

14. Them, too.

:hi:

[jaxx]

16. Why Columbia?

[laughingliberal]

20. Just curious. nt

[jaxx]

21. Interesting. Others must be just curious too.

[laughingliberal]

23. Probably. nt

[Pavulon]

26. The MIHOP and Chavez people want their smoking gun.

bush blew up the trade centers with thermite and we are trying to kill the people's hero Hugo.

I hope he is our fucking man on the CIA tip. Would be worth half the trouble for him to be our bitch.

[jaxx]

28. My gawd, you can't mean it.

[alfredo]

24. I'm waiting to see how our "ally" Turkey has stabbed us

in the back. They are doing the same kind of things we do.

You don't let a child do as he/she damn well pleases because you are responsible for their actions.

We are liable for the actions of our government. When our country does wrong, it is our fault.

[laughingliberal]

25. Yes. Another situation of interest. nt

[alfredo]

41. I hope something comes out that will remove any justification for not

Prosecuting bush and Cheney.

[bemildred]

15. Some combination of hype and ideology.

The interesting thing is that the government is apparently not trying to ignore or dismiss it.

[moondust]

29. Self-aggrandizement. n/t

[rucky]

This is unsettling.

But part of me thinks we may need a little unsettling right now. too much happens behind closed doors.

[rucky]

37. This is unsettling.

But part of me thinks we may need a little unsettling right now. too much happens behind closed doors.

[ProSense]

40. It's likely to be unsettling, but

it will mostly lack context, especially lacking is how selective the information will be. Information targeted to a specific incident would be one thing, something that can be isolated and given context, but no one seems to know the target, the purpose, the context or anything.