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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:17 PM
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Why Should WE Pay?
Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 05:21 PM by Blue State Bandit
Who among us, the 99% of Americans who work when they can, who have their checks prorated to pave the roads and protect society from the pitfalls of an honorable existence, can afford a team of lawyers and investment banksters to "handle" their tax obligations, or "shield"(what often is not always) "their" assets from creditors or disgruntled customers? Ya can't even stuff it in your mattress anymore.

Who among us, the "people", who actually have corporeal form, and things like vocal chords to speak, and stomachs to growl, and suffering kin to attend to, can afford to have our 1st Amendment protected opinions propagated through the MSM echo chamber like a sad song in the shower? Come to think of it, that analogy works for the sensible retorts too, nobody in the chamber, or in that tiled lined shit house can hear the the heckles from outside.

We don't write the banking laws, or the mortgage laws, or the tax laws, we just have to live with it; the cost of breathing the fresh air of Freedom (TM) *cough* *cough*.

I live pay check to pay check, as do more than 2/3 of Americans. I can't afford to be late with my rent. I can't bribe Moody's to improve my credit score. And the only bailout's I would qualify for is some measly unemployment checks and an ACCESS card (food stamps for silver spooned who might be reading this). And worst of all (or best, pending on how desperate you are), I can't start a war to jump start my economy! I live in fear of the times when I have to live no check to no check.

So, why should WE pay? I did my part. I live by my hands; my ideas. And I don't mind setting aside a small portion of my earnings to provide for a well maintained, well oiled, and pride inspiring society. If I have to drive to work, I get a road to travel. If I have a hankerin or need for something, I have a safe market place to purchase the wares I choose without fear of being robbed or poisoned for my troubles. Or at least that's how it's supposed to work.

We have been robbed, lied to, spied on, and now, apparently, were being molested too. In our very own names, a small but powerful group has waged wars, crashed economies, murdered civilians, and even colluded with those they, themselves proclaim are our enemies. They stole pensions and homes, then paid officials to write laws to to protect them from laws that WE are still bound by.

And now that they have sucked and slobbered all the blood out of our economy, they blame us? They drop the tab at our feet after eating our lunch and picking our pockets. It's almost as if they are daring us at times. The shear audacity....

There ain't many ways for the next few years to pan out, and not a one of them are good for our society. It boils down to variations of 2 main plot lines. WE (1) capitulate, our society and nation fails, and the vultures leftover pick our collective carcases, or (2) WE have a "REAL TEA PARTY" (without the funny hats) and throw bankers, pundits and CEO's overboard instead of crates of Darjeeling and Earl Grey.

I'll just end with this...

It may not jump start my paycheck, but I know which path I'd be proud to follow. Besides, I paid good money for that pride.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 05:41 PM
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1. Strong recommend. Nt
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:03 PM
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2. K & R
:kick:
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:05 PM
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3. k&r
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 06:27 PM
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4. For Real? (unrec'd)
Enjoy the sandwich.
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:53 AM
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5. Morning K&R
solidarity.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 09:30 AM
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6. With ya - I've had it with the billionaires not only having all the fun -
but also owning all the wealth. In no way is that fair.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:29 PM
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7. Wow! first time in the Big Journal Column.
Very humbling. Thank you all.
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:33 PM
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8. K&R
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:34 PM
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9. Your OP is spot on and very Poetic.... n/t
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:34 PM
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12. According to the America Payroll Association poll...
for the National Payroll Week 2010 (September), 71.64% would find it very or somewhat difficult "to meet (their)
current financial obligations, if (their) next paycheck were delayed for a week". PDF Results

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/majority-of-americans-live-paycheck-to-paycheck-103297369.html
http://www.nationalpayrollweek.com/news.cfm#NPW2010

With consequences ranging from less food on the table, to home foreclosure, I find it hard to believe that we have held on to our sanity this long.

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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:47 PM
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13. was trying to respond to the poster who is fortunate to have never lived pay check to pay check.
This is a very good article for those fortunate ones. The majority of the working class indeed live pay check to pay check and it isn't a choice.

This should be an eye opening truth for those who think the average american lives pay check to pay check by "choice", it is towards the end of the article.
http://www.truth-out.org/bill-moyers-money-fights-hard-and-it-fights-dirty64766

In polite circles, among our political and financial classes, this is known as “the free market at work.” No, it’s “wage repression,” and it’s been happening in our country since around 1980. I must invoke some statistics here, knowing that statistics can glaze the eyes; but if indeed it’s the mark of a truly educated person to be deeply moved by statistics, as I once read, surely this truly educated audience will be moved by the recent analysis of tax data by the economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez. They found that from 1950 through 1980, the share of all income in America going to everyone but the rich increased from 64 percent to 65 percent. Because the nation’s economy was growing handsomely, the average income for 9 out of l0 Americans was growing, too – from $17,719 to $30,941. That’s a 75 percent increase in income in constant 2008 dollars.

But then it stopped. Since 1980 the economy has also continued to grow handsomely, but only a fraction at the top have benefitted. The line flattens for the bottom 90% of Americans. Average income went from that $30,941 in 1980 to $31,244 in 2008. Think about that: the average income of Americans increased just $303 dollars in 28 years.

That’s wage repression.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:53 PM
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14.  top 1% has 42% of financial wealth, the bottom 80% hold only 7% the top 20% holds 93%...>Link>>
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 07:02 PM by sam sarrha

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

top 1% holds 6 Times that of the bottom 80% who hold only 7% of financial wealth, so the top 20% holds 93%.. of all the Financial wealth of America.. they didn't get it honestly. Buffet only pays 14% income tax, Gates pays what a family making $80,000 does.. and the Bu$h43 tax cut only benefits the top 2.5% richest not mom & pop.

http://feedingamerica.org/faces-of-hunger/hunger-101.aspx
"...20% or more of the child population in 16 states and D.C. are living in food insecure households. The states of Arkansas (24.4 percent) and Texas (24.3 percent) have the highest rates of children in households without consistent access to food. (Cook, John, Child Food Insecurity in the United States: 2006-2008. iii..."

the Psychotic Obsessive Compulsive Hording of wealth in this country should be declared a threat to National Security.

all speculation on Strategic commodities, food, fuel, health care, etc should be forbidden.

all windfall profits in the stock market should be taxed just like the under classes winning the lottery.. immediately and no deductions.

the ReThuglicans have been taken over by the Dominionists.. they believe that Wealth is proof of gods favor of a man, therefore it is a SIN to tax a rich man/corporation, like wise Poverty is proof of gods Dis-Favor/punishment of a man, so it is a SIN to help them.

http://doggo.tripod.com/doggchrisdomin.html
"...Leo Strauss was born in 1899 and died in 1973. ... He is most famous for resuscitating Machiavelli and introducing his principles as the guiding philosophy of the neo-conservative movement. ... More than any other man, Strauss breathed upon conservatism, inspiring it to rise from its atrophied condition and its natural dislike of change and to embrace an unbounded new political ideology that rides on the back of a revolutionary steed, hailing even radical change; hence the name Neo-Conservatives.

Significantly, Dominionism is a form of Social Darwinism.<48> It inherently includes the religious belief that wealth-power is a sign of God’s election. That is, out of the masses of people and the multitude of nations, wealth, in and of itself, is thought to indicate God’s approval on men and nations whereas poverty and sickness reflect God’s disapproval.

(It was not until I read this article that I realized that this is a fundamental tenet of Dominionists.

Worldly wealth and power are signs of God's favor -- to attempt to limit or decrease one's wealth and power is to disrespect God.

On the contrary, God's elect on Earth are called upon to increase their wealth and power.

It is not sufficient for a man to be a millionaire, or for a country to have sovereignty within its borders -- a man must strive to increase his wealth as much as possible, and a Dominionist government's behavior toward its neighbors must be "invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity".

Furthermore, any attempt to decrease a person's or a country's wealth and power -- to take from the rich to give to the poor, to reduce military spending and power -- is a direct attack on God.) ..."

..it is really scarry how mant Supreme Court Justices studied under Straus..

http://blog.buzzflash.com/hartmann/10016
"...Thom Hartmann's "Independent Thinker" Book of the Month Review

How is it, some have wondered, that the Republican Party has been taken over by a relatively small band of radical ideologues who don't believe in democracy or honesty or any specific religion, but relentlessly flog the language of "freedom," "honor," and Christianity? How is it that people who run the government into deficit can campaign on fiscal responsibility? Or that people who campaign on a "pro life" position can be responsible for lying us into a war that has killed well over 100,000 human beings, nakedly advocate torture, and openly promote the death penalty in American?..."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm
"...The effect of Strauss’s teaching is to convince his acolytes that they are the natural ruling elite and the persecuted few. And it does not take much intelligence for them to surmise that they are in a situation of great danger, especially in a world devoted to the modern ideas of equal rights and freedoms. Now more than ever, the wise few must proceed cautiously and with circumspection. So, they come to the conclusion that they have a moral justification to lie in order to avoid persecution. Strauss goes so far as to say that dissembling and deception – in effect, a culture of lies – is the peculiar justice of the wise..."

There are dark days ahead for all americans that live in the bottom 80% wealth zone.. we are just a profitable pool of slaves.. to make the mentally ill OCD rich richer..

the GOP are just soldiers for the Elite Oligarchy... who arent the rich... they are the Diciples of Leo Straus, Milton Friedman and Niccolò Machiavelli:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli
Machiavelli is the only political thinker whose name has come into common use for designating a kind of politics, which exists and will continue to exist independently of his influence, a politics guided exclusively by considerations of expediency, which uses all means, fair or foul, iron or poison, for achieving its ends - its end being the aggrandizement of one's country or fatherland - but also using the fatherland in the service of the self-aggrandizement of the politician or statesman or one's party.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 08:30 PM
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15. Damn; too late to rec.
Would like to recommend the poster re post to reach more eye balls.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:14 AM
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16. Thank you.
That is very kind.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:23 AM
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17. Reposting now (at 5:30am).
Off to risk my life for survival.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:40 AM
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18. A 'kick' would bring it to the top of the page for more eyes, much like this one will do. nt
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