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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:29 PM
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NY Times: Cables Shine Light Into Secret Diplomatic Channel (Their WikiLeaks Front Page Article)
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 01:37 PM by Hissyspit
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?_r=1&hp

Cables Shine Light Into Secret Diplomatic Channels

By SCOTT SHANE and ANDREW W. LEHREN
Published: November 28, 2010

WASHINGTON — A cache of a quarter-million confidential American diplomatic cables, most of them from the past three years, provides an unprecedented look at backroom bargaining by embassies around the world, brutally candid views of foreign leaders and frank assessments of nuclear and terrorist threats.

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The cables, a huge sampling of the daily traffic between the State Department and some 270 embassies and consulates, amount to a secret chronicle of the United States’ relations with the world in an age of war and terrorism. Among their revelations, to be detailed in The Times in coming days:

¶ A dangerous standoff with Pakistan over nuclear fuel: Since 2007, the United States has mounted a highly secret effort, so far unsuccessful, to remove from a Pakistani research reactor highly enriched uranium that American officials fear could be diverted for use in an illicit nuclear device. In May 2009, Ambassador Anne W. Patterson reported that Pakistan was refusing to schedule a visit by American technical experts because, as a Pakistani official said, “if the local media got word of the fuel removal, ‘they certainly would portray it as the United States taking Pakistan’s nuclear weapons,’ he argued.”

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¶ Bargaining to empty the Guantánamo Bay prison: When American diplomats pressed other countries to resettle detainees, they became reluctant players in a State Department version of “Let’s Make a Deal.” Slovenia was told to take a prisoner if it wanted to meet with President Obama, while the island nation of Kiribati was offered incentives worth millions of dollars to take in a group of detainees, cables from diplomats recounted. The Americans, meanwhile, suggested that accepting more prisoners would be “a low-cost way for Belgium to attain prominence in Europe.”

¶ Suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government: When Afghanistan’s vice president visited the United Arab Emirates last year, local authorities working with the Drug Enforcement Administration discovered that he was carrying $52 million in cash. With wry understatement, a cable from the American Embassy in Kabul called the money “a significant amount” that the official, Ahmed Zia Massoud, “was ultimately allowed to keep without revealing the money’s origin or destination.” (Mr. Massoud denies taking any money out of Afghanistan.)

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¶ Mixed records against terrorism: Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda, and the tiny Persian Gulf state of Qatar, a generous host to the American military for years, was the “worst in the region” in counterterrorism efforts, according to a State Department cable last December. Qatar’s security service was “hesitant to act against known terrorists out of concern for appearing to be aligned with the U.S. and provoking reprisals,” the cable said

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:33 PM
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1. If you compare this to the Guardian or El Pais, the NYT article has a peculiar slant to it
Recommended but with caution. Thank you for posting it.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:35 PM
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2. FOX news will love that Guantanamo bit. We tried to pay a country millions to take prisoners. This
is going to be interesting. Some intriguing bits of info in those short paragraphs.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:38 PM
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3. I'm more interested in the pre-2009 communications.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:39 PM
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4. I'm sorry, but so far this sounds boring
I'm all for these leaks, but I certainly hope there's some content here other than what diplomats are gossiping about behind backs.

Who cares?

Where are the cables that prove US military is used to advance the interests of global capitalists? That's what I wanna know.

:popcorn:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:48 PM
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8. Well, this is the New York Times.
Maybe some other news outlet will cover that part.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:43 PM
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5. Human rights activists at risk?
This is all interesting but one part concerns me. Is wikileaks showing the same concern for informants and foreign human rights activists?


Many more cables name diplomats’ confidential sources, from foreign legislators and military officers to human rights activists and journalists, often with a warning to Washington: “Please protect” or “Strictly protect.”

The Times has withheld from articles and removed from documents it is posting online the names of some people who spoke privately to diplomats and might be at risk if they were publicly identified. The Times is also withholding some passages or entire cables whose disclosure could compromise American intelligence efforts.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:47 PM
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6. The Times might withhold names
but I'm betting other sites won't
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:51 PM
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9. I should have finished the article.
Those collections of dispatches were placed online by WikiLeaks, with selective redactions of the Afghan documents and much heavier redactions of the Iraq reports. The group has said it intends to post the documents in the current trove as well, after editing to remove the names of confidential sources and other details.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:51 PM
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10. Spain's El Pais is claiming they will withhold names and sensitive information
that could hurt people. In other words they aren't going to do any Valerie Plame outings.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:53 PM
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11. I still wonder how they will decide
what will hurt or not
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 01:48 PM
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7. We are moving into a new age.
Let's hope our leaders can handle the transition without succumbing to the vapors.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 02:11 PM
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12. How??
How does someone carry 52 Million in cash?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:27 PM
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13. Same way the Pentagon shipped a few billion in cash to Iraq.
Big honking airplane.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 03:38 PM
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14. $100 bills are compact. (nt)
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