Pakistan forcing Taliban militants to keep fighting, Karzai says in leaked cable

[babsbunny]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/pakistan-forcing-taliban-militants-fight/

By Daniel Tencer
Sunday, November 28th, 2010 -- 4:28 pm

Afghan President Hamid Karzai told a US envoy this year that the Pakistani government is forcing Taliban fighters to keep fighting coalition forces, according to a State Department cable released by WikiLeaks.

If true, the allegation would add evidence to claims Pakistan is intentionally prolonging the war effort to ensure that any future peace settlement results in an Afghan "satellite state" of Pakistan.

[robinlynne]

1. and our tax dollars go to.....Pakistan.... glad it's official.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

2. "Karzai says"

:*

[gateley]

8. Yeah, good point, but I'm inclined to believe this. Musharraf totally

played us for the money we were giving him, I don't know who the current head honcho is but I'm guessing he/she is still doing it.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

10. OK, but, practically, how would "Pakistan force Taliban militants to keep fighting"?

[pauldp]

11. $ nt

[A-Schwarzenegger]

12. That's hardly "forced."

[pauldp]

16. they are probably given another option besides $

Death. We are talking about the ISI after all.

[gateley]

13. I took it to mean they kept engaging them - and maybe not letting

them get back into Afghanistan? I don't believe/trust Karzai and I don't believe/trust Pakistan so I really don't know what to think. Not that that keeps me from voicing an opinion!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

14. ...

:)

[WCGreen]

18. Stoking and giving them safe harbor inside Pakistan...

i don't think they need much goading...

[Catherina]

19. Agreed. Besides, you don't need to force people when drones are killing their kids n/t

[emulatorloo]

3. I think there is another cable that calls Karzai "Paranoid"

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. Karzai says, "Karzai is not paranoid."

I think I heard or read that somewhere.

[emulatorloo]

15. Karzai is "driven by paranoia." and "and prone to being persuaded by conspiracy theories"

Ha Ha when I say I read something I mean I read something. I don't make shit up.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/8166248/WikiLeaks-US-referred-to-Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-as-Hitler.html

World News
WikiLeaks: US referred to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as 'Hitler'
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is referred to as "Hitler" while President Nicolas Sarkozy of France is called a "naked emperor" in US documents released by Wikilieaks on Sunday.

Pages from the German newspaper Der Spiegel were leaked early, before a mass publication of thousands of secret cables by the whiste-blowing website.

The documents also say that North Korean leader Kim Jong -il suffers from epilepsy, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddhafi's full-time nurse is a "hot blond".

The German Chancellor is referred to as Angela "Teflon" Merkel and Afghan President Hamid Karzai is "driven by paranoia", the documents claim.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Leaked-cables-show-undiplomatic-US-take-on-leaders/articleshow/7007470.cms#ixzz16cvFrrjY

AFGHAN PRESIDENT HAMID KARZAI : A cable described Karzai as "extremely weak" and prone to being persuaded by conspiracy theories. Karzai has had a rocky relationship with President Barack Obama.

Read more: Leaked cables show undiplomatic US take on leaders - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Leaked-cables-show-undiplomatic-US-take-on-leaders/articleshow/7007470.cms#ixzz16cvFrrjY

[NuclearDem]

7. Yep, Karzai's paranoid

"Dammit, coalition, I want them found!"
"President Karzai, we have every available soldier looking for al-Qaeda..."
"Not al-Qaeda, you moron! The rest of my Lite Brite pieces! My name is Ham Karzai! ...or is it?! Who am I?! What number did you dial?! Don't ever call here again! ...I guess I showed him! Nobody messes with Ham."

[gateley]

4. Plus, aren't we paying Pakistan for their "help in fighting the terrorists"?

[no_hypocrisy]

5. Pakistan would rather have the Taliban fighting for control of Afghanistan than for Pakistan.

A good number of Muslims in Pakistan are Sufi, non-fundamentalists. There would be a religious civil war if the Taliban were to control the government.

[dixiegrrrrl]

9. Remember the movie "Wag the Dog"?

[Odin2005]

17. Says Mr. "Paranoid Conspiracy-Theorist" Karzai!

:rofl:

[Bolo Boffin]

20. One problem: the linked cable is of an Ahmed Karzai interview, not Hamid.

You know, Hamid's drug-running brother? Big difference.

However, this sort of stuff was already suspected as well.