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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:25 PM
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Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton ordered U.S. diplomats to spy on UN leaders Read more: http://www.dailym
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 05:25 PM by Lars77
Source: MailOnline

Hillary Clinton ordered American officials to spy on high ranking UN diplomats, including British representatives.
Top secret cables revealed that Mrs Clinton, the Secretary of State, even ordered diplomats to obtain DNA data – including iris scans and fingerprints - as well as credit card and frequent flier numbers.

All permanent members of the security council – including Russia, China, France and the UK – were targeted by the secret spying mission, as well as the Secretary General of the UN, Ban Ki-Moon.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333920/Wikileaks-Hillary-Clinton-ordered-U-S-diplomats-spy-UN-leaders.html



DNA? Are they cloning him or what?

This could feed some pretty edit: Crazy! conspiracy theories..
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:27 PM
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1. Wow we have only been doing this since the 1930's
started with telegrams.
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de novo Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:38 PM
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6. That does not make it right.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:48 PM
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8. No it makes it normal. Right and Wrong not applicable
as the real world is not a chapel.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:57 PM
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:01 PM
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14. ah, that is what dick tators the world over have used as their
excuse. nice. nothing like 'historical' consistency to make us all safe. Right? Right?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:23 PM
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20. The US sits for everything in your world.
Sitting is easier than standing for most people. Except those of us who have a pain in the ass. ;-)
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:30 PM
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2. DNA samples, such as hair samples, can be used to determine quite effectively...
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 05:30 PM by Poll_Blind
...medication or other drugs a person is taking and it can give them a good overall insight into the lifestyle and overall health of an individual. Helps negotiations to know if the other guy has to take blood pressure medication, anti-anxiety medication (etc.) and whether or not he or she's got a coke habit.

That's not new technology either.

PB
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:30 PM
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22. You are wrong. DNA analysis reveals none of that. n/t
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:40 PM
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23. My god, did you even bother reading what I wrote?
"DNA samples, such as hair samples..."

The point is not that they're trying to get the goddamned DNA of the foreigners, they're trying to get DNA samples.

PB
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:31 PM
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3. Duplicate
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 05:36 PM by Turborama
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:36 PM
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4. Duplicate Post
...and the Daily Mail is not where I would go for unbiased opinion or news.
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:42 PM
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7. Then don't click the link. nt
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Yeahyeah Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:36 PM
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5. I thought she was a politician,not a spy.When did she start as a spy?
Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 05:49 PM by Yeahyeah
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:51 PM
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11. I know right? Since when did the State Department engage in espionage?
I thought that was the job of the always shifty orginization, the CIA?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:50 PM
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9. isnt this common practice. i feel like all diplomats expect to be spied upon
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:52 PM
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12. And all spies expect to face capital charges when caught... nt
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:06 PM
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15. not in their own country. if we spy on a british embassy in america,
the american spy doesnt expect to be executed by the american govt when caught.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:21 PM
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19. but a british embassy is considered british soil
if a spy is caught in the embassy then it is the british who would have jurisdiction
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:20 PM
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18. isn't this what diplomatic immunity is all about?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:30 PM
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21. Actually no. Most "spies" have diplomatic immunity.
Most CIA and intelligence personnel are issued official cover as State Department personnel, which makes them effectively exempt from local law--if they commit a crime, then the most the host country can do is deport them back to the US, unless the US waives diplomatic immunity. For instance, if a State Department official assigned to England killed a prostitute, the US would probably waive diplomatic immunity. If someone assigned to, say, Turkey gets accused of theft of espionage, the US will have them sent back here.

The exception is NOCs, meaning "Non-Official Cover." These are CIA people whose covers are not eligible for immunity: corporations, NGOs, and others. Valerie Plame was a NOC, for instance.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 05:51 PM
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10. The UN is a den of spies
This stuff is fair game. Everyone does it.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:06 PM
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16. see this is what i thought. that spying was expected.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 06:17 PM
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17. Yep, and every country has used its embassies to house spies
An embassy is the best place to hide using diplomatic cover.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:13 PM
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24. Check out some old Alfred Hitchcock flicks on this topic!
Embassies house spies. And are spied on.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 08:21 PM
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25. Pearl clutchers on this issue are making straight fools of themselves
What the fuck did you think international diplomacy was all about?

Leave your crunchy coffee shop for thirty seconds and smell what's going on in the real world.

The State Department spying on diplomats! Oh my gaaaawd! Who'da thunk it?

Where have the pearl clutchers been for the last 150 years?

:rofl:
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