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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:37 PM Original message |
At least 80% (the vast majority) of homeless people are sane, |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. oop |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. translate please? nt |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. didn't mean to post that. sorry. I cleaned it up. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. been there...nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Deleted message |
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Nice insensitive smack on the mentally ill, there! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. But...but that would mean homeless people are like, you know, normal |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Homeless people are as normal as you or I |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. This system sucks and any not seeing that are clueless and/or on the take. It is not |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 03:08 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Ours |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Adolescents are ruled by emotions (real and vicarious) and the senses... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
113. I used to think we would grow up, I was an eternal optimist for decades, but now |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
110. Mentally ill folks are normal too. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. Thank you for speaking up, and you highlight the slipperyness of this topic that many of us see, |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. K & R Thanks so much for posting! |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. you are welcome! |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
10. That is right as rain but believing the lie is worse, to my mind. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
31. There is a surplus of housing |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. kick |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. K & R |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
32. Absolutely... |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. As someone who has been homeless with kids ... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Thanks for your story... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. Very good post! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. Just, thank you so much for posting this. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
37. Thank you for reading it! |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. K&R |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
19. Reagan gutted the federal affordable housing programs. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
65. yep |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
83. this country may never recover... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
20. Thanks for posting this! It's sheer absurdity for anyone to think the |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. It's like playing king of the mountain... |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. k&r |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. Homeless people are us. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-28-10 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. k and r--thank you so much for posting this. it is an absolute travesty in this country that ANY of |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Makes the U.S. and its citizens a global disgrace. n/t |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. All human needs should be met |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
26. The thing that's harder and harder to miss |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. You do know that "the continent" used to give homeless people one-way tickets to Hawai'i, right? |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Maika'i au, pehea? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. But your kupuna.... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Like this? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 11:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Yup, pretty much like that |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
103. Well, now... it was the Aloha Spirit... they were doing it to be kind and thoughtful. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #73 |
86. please pardon my french... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #86 |
101. I deal with just that kind of insensitivity every fucking day, so I can attest that it exists. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
63. the elderly |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #63 |
87. and that is a shame... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 06:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
98. Appalachia |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
70. It's the elderly homeless I see that bother me the most, honestly. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. As one of those, I appreciate the sentiment.... |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Totally agreed. I don't mean to judge. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #81 |
100. Then I hope you will join me in protesting when DUers insist on using the "working poor" phrase. |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #100 |
111. Wellll, I think that term is useful in a very specific sense. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Of course its "hurtful", but that doesn't seem to matter to "progressives", does it? |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. "Children have their whole lives in front of them"... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #88 |
102. It has been shown that neurological damage occurs in children in poverty, especially |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #102 |
112. the "progressives"... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
85. another big demographic... |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. Rec'd. Thank you n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
28. No one should be homeless -- and for decades our government has been non-responsive ..... HOWEVER .. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. A government of by and FOR the people |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
30. Giving the Homeless a face |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Wow, I heartily recommend this post. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
89. great post... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. I think the photos are beautiful and complex. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
38. Thanks for all the recs and thoughtful comments... |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
39. Capital ascendent and homelessness explodes. Coincidence? |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. No coincidence... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
40. Huge K&R, with thanks. Also, a sharing and a question.... |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
41. If intelligent progressives cannot get over their |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
42. Here is something I wrote a couple of years ago on homeless vets |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. kicking to keep this very important topic in front of us |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. You should do an updated OP on this... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
92. great post JP... |
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burnsei sensei (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
44. First of all, |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. "the exile has become an institutional fact" |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
45. My security guard class info agrees with that 16% stat. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Thanks for the coroboration! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. Outstanding OP. Thank you very much. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. sometimes anger is a great inspiration... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
47. What A Sad State Of Affairs...Tragic! K&R n/t |
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postatomic (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
48. Even without the statistics |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. "Only the ignorant will make a blanket statement that throws a group of living breathing human |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. --- |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. We'll have to keep posting back! |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 01:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
93. admitting one is wrong... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Thanks for this. nt |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
53. That's probably a higher percentage than among freepers and teabaggers. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
56. Did it ever occur to anyone that life on the street might drive people to drink and/or use? |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. those that do abuse... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. I appreciate the understanding. The acknowledgement of the STRESS is very rare. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 01:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
94. yes- there are two types of depression... |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
66. The homeless I encounter on the street (pan handlers) appear to be mentally ill |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Has to be hard to ask for money... |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. I don't begrudge the guy even if it was a con |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. One example does not make a statistic. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #66 |
95. do you know... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
69. Would that we could say the same about Politicians and Big Business and Banksters |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Yes, lack of a heart can cause mental illness |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
79. Kick |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-29-10 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
80. too late for a rec (sorry to miss it), but a kick nevertheless |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
82. too late to rec.... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
84. kicking to keep this very important topic visible. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
90. Kicking. n/t |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
91. That's a funny definition of "clean and sober". |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 06:51 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. But it means over 60% are sober |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 07:01 AM Response to Original message |
99. I think those stats change from place to place. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. The point is not the NUMBERS themselves.. the point is the ignorant labeling of ALL |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Yes, I realize that. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Zing. Maybe as more find themselves hurt by the stereotypes, the realization will become clearer. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Yes, I realize that. |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
105. What I don't understand about homeless people |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. You would think. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. A dog is great company, great protection, and very cheap to feed.... |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
109. If I was homeless, I would be part of the supposed "insane" 16%. |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-30-10 08:52 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. Excellent point... |
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