Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

In Wake of New WikiLeaks Release, JFK, Ellsberg's Remarks on 'Secrecy', 'Covert Ops' Worth Noting

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:11 PM
Original message
In Wake of New WikiLeaks Release, JFK, Ellsberg's Remarks on 'Secrecy', 'Covert Ops' Worth Noting


In Wake of WikiLeaks Cable Release, JFK, Ellsberg's Remarks on 'Secrecy', 'Covert Ops' Worth Noting
JFK '61: 'Word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society'
Ellsberg '08: 'Most covert ops deserve to be disclosed by free press'


As the information from WikiLeaks latest release of documents becomes public, and as the U.S. Government continues to scramble to mitigate what the White House is calling today a "reckless and dangerous" leak, condemning it "in the strongest terms" as an alleged threat to national security, it's worth keeping in mind, for valuable perspective, what the 1970s legendary "Pentagon Papers" whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg wrote in an op/ed for The BRAD BLOG in early 2008...

Many, if not most, covert operations deserve to be disclosed by a free press. They are often covert not only because they are illegal but because they are wildly ill-conceived and reckless. "Sensitive" and "covert" are often synonyms for "half-assed," "idiotic," and "dangerous to national security," as well as "criminal."


As well, John F. Kennedy's April 1961 speech on what he described as this nation's abhorrence of secrecy, and the necessity of a free press --- as delivered to the American Newspaper Publishers Association at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York a year or so before his death --- is rather astonishing, and more than a bit ironic, in light of today's leaks and, as directly, the actions of the Executive Branch and its enablers in this country --- in Congress, in the mainstream media and in the public --- over the past dark decade. JFK's remarks include these thoughts among others that must be heard or read...

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.
...
And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.
...
And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
...
No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary.


MUCH MORE, INCLUDING AUDIO EXCERPT OF JFK SPEECH: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8214
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:20 PM
Response to Original message
1. Didn't the Kennedy admin. engage in covert ops re: Castro?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. Actually those were in the works and I think he was arm twisted
into going along when he did not order a second attempt on Castros Cuba 'they' did not like it. The mobsters wanted their casinos back and 'businessmen' lost a bunch on shady businesses there.
After all it was only a short flight or boat trip out of Key West 90 104 miles to the docks in Havana.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
2. Love to have had WikiLeaks in 1963-64.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:36 PM
Response to Original message
3. Some people think this is part of the reason he was shot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. I am one of them....but that was only one part of it.
He had stepped on the wrong toes when he failed to use the US military to aid the Pay of Pigs invasion...the mob had lost it's property (Havana) when Castro took over and they wanted it back....then he pisses off the military over Viet Nam and his fate was sealed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-10 11:45 PM
Response to Original message
4. Rec'd. Great post n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Thanks, Catherina n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 08:45 AM
Response to Original message
6. Timely reminder. It seems, according to our "free press", as if the history of the USA has been
demoted to the trashbins in the RNC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:57 PM
Response to Original message
9. sad K&R. //nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:28 AM
Response to Original message
10. We are fortunate that President Kennedy recognized the
seriousness of why secrecy would not be a safety feature for our country and put it in the records...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:25 PM
Response to Original message
11. Sad..so sad...and since then, only more and more secrecy,deception and tragedy...
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 08:25 PM by BrklynLiberal
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 12:44 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC