To all who are disappointed: Only a small fraction of Wikileaks have yet to be released

[IDHow]

Some here vent their frustration of what they see as very tame "revelations" from Wikileaks, but let me remind you that far more will be released over the coming months were we can see if the US government really supports terror groups in so-called "hostile" countries and if we really see Iran as a threat to national security or if we want control of the Iranian oil taps.

[WonderGrunion]

1. You mean this is going to be like Final Fantasy 13?

It doesn't get good until almost the end of it?

[IDHow]

3. I am not familiar with Final Fantasy 13, but yes, I'll say

that it won't necessarily be the most juiciest last, but the juicy stuff being released at intervals so it gets time to sink in. Let's be frank: I think we all know that the US supports many terror groups around the world and thus is putting American lives at great risk, and they do it purposely, because American lives is not really that much of a concern for the government. If it were, we would have universal health care decades ago, and you know it!

[WonderGrunion]

9. I agree with you, but not in the way you think

If the US government really cared about the lives of US citizens they would have dropped a small nuke on Kabul after the Taliban refused to turn over Bin Laden. Nuclear weapons broke the resolve of Japanese Fundamentalism in WWII and it would have done the same to Islamic Fundamentalism in 2001. Also, fewer Afghan and Iraqi citizens would be dead today with a targeted strike on Kabul.

[area51]

13. Actually, if the U.S. govt. cared about the citizens,

we'd have health care as a basic human right, like in first-world countries.

[Skidmore]

2. The damage that is sustained thus far is not that which will end wars but

instead will destroy the ability of nations to talk to one another. Constructive? I think not. Destructive in an adolescent, lazy, slick techno manner. Ham fisted. Gameboy pushes a button and attempts to blow up the Deathstar using a cheat.

[jefferson_dem]

4. Who cares about being constructive?

We want our seamy international "scandals"! Welcome to the simple-minded tabloidization of American foreign policy.

[IDHow]

5. If you think it's tabloidization that the US supports terror groups and dont care about WMD

then go ahead and believe it, but so far, only the irrelevant stuff about Ghadaffi's body guards or Berlusconi's party's have been "revealed", and we all know there's interesting stuff being reported in other documents of wikileaks.

[Skidmore]

7. And how do you know this? And why

should we trust you?

And what have you just said that was not common knowledge 20 years ago?

[IDHow]

11. What is common knowledge?

What matters is what becomes public and the government can't deny it anymore. This is good, Skidmore. "National security" is so heavily used for propaganda purposes, it is becoming very similar to Goebbels and Goring's Germany.

[Union Scribe]

16. Surely you are not against revealing more about Bush's miserable failings

and collusions? What could you have against this information seeing the light of day?

[Skidmore]

18. I did not say that.

Did I?

[Union Scribe]

19. No. I replied to jefferson dem.

[elana i am]

6. i say put up or shut up.

piecemeal trickles of info that i could of surmised myself, if i spent a few minutes thinking about things, isn't going to hold my interest.

[IDHow]

10. We have to wait and see, but if there's really interesting stuff and it becomes public

then we all know the s*** will hit the fan. Even if we all know that Iraq was really only about controlling the oil taps, it really is something different to actually hear the officials say it. And let's not forget the coming US attack on Iran and the danger that it will put all American lives in.

[Skidmore]

12. Now, wait a minute, what is this "if" stuff.

I thought you knew that there was more interesting info to come out. I mean either you know or you are out with the blowing smoke brigade this morning.

[IDHow]

15. We all know that alot of juicy stuff will be released over the coming months Skidmore

the question is just how important it is. How much crime will be exposed and what will the powers do about it. There's no doubt that crimes will be exposed Skidmore.

[Skidmore]

17. My best guess IDHow is that it will probably be

more of the same, and you could probably do searches in the archiveds of DU and find that realtime discussion was going on a decade ago about international and war politics which were pretty much on target based on information readily available to the public. I highly doubt that short of finding paycheck stubs from the US government to terrorists who struck on US soil, there will be any difference in policy as long as the US citizenry feel at risk. Personally, I think this does more damage to diplomacy than anything, and this is a time in which the world needs to be working on diplomacy.

[happi1]

8. lolz

I love yall.

Please don't go to any pastebins...lot worse worse in there

I and I just saying

[lunatica]

14. The revelations may seem tame, but only to those of us who already knew about them

Which, granted, isn't a lot of people in relation to those who didn't know.

More than anything else, the revelations pretty much clinch what some of us suspected all along.

[Catherina]

20. 50% recs. 50% unrecs. Proud to rec this and break the tie, n/t