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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:26 AM
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Raw Story: "Shocking Cable - US Says Saudi Donors Are Chief Financiers Of Al Qaeda"
Edited on Mon Nov-29-10 09:30 AM by Hissyspit
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/shocker-admits-saudi-donors-chief-financiers-al-qaeda-leaked-cable/

Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda

By Raw Story
Monday, November 29th, 2010 -- 8:51 am

A quick aside in a New York Times article about leaked diplomatic cables is sure to spark renewed interest about the role of the US' biggest ally in the Gulf supporting terrorism.

In their wide-ranging précis of the leaked cables, Times reporters Scott Shane and Andrew Lehren mention in passing a key detail from one of the diplomatic dispatches: "Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda."

No other details about the cable are provided by the Times. The referenced cable is not linked, and Raw Story has been unable to locate the specific language among additional cables published by The Guardian. (If you find the cable, please email john@rawstory.com).

The admission is stunning, though it has been largely kept from public view, and hasn't been admitted previously at such a high level. The "Blue Ribbon" Sept. 11, 2001 report noted that al Qaeda had raised money in Saudi Arabia but that no senior officials had provided material support. Charges that Saudi donors have provided material support for terrorist groups -- including Iraqi insurgents -- are not new. A detailed Congressional Research Service report in 2007 highlighted repeated instances where Saudis were accused of supporting terrorist groups. The report was titled, "Saudi Arabia: Terrorist Financing Issues."

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:34 AM
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1. This is not news
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:40 AM
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6. Yep. Raw Story is ten years too late. n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:04 AM
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13. This trail of Saudi bribery of politicians & terrorism goes back to the Nixon Administration
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de novo Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:53 PM
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23. Yet, the Obama Administration made a $60 Billion arms deal with them.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:05 AM
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26. Which Saudis

Um, the KKK is primarily funded by US donors.

The NYT writers apparently don't realize their statement can be taken as "Saudis" or "The Saudis".
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:35 AM
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2. Al CIAda?
The only way to loot the treasuries in the Middle East is to make Islam evil. Usury is illegal in that religion.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:37 AM
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3. Is it al Qaeda,
the group that up to now some people claim doesn't exist?

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:45 AM
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8. No, it's the group we and our proxies create and fund. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:17 AM
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16. Was that in the cables? n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:43 AM
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21. "Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of Sunni militant groups like Al Qaeda."
Sounds like confirmation to me.

Aside from that, check out any of the books by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed.

Here's a good overview talk he gave called "Creating Terror":

http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/23955
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:07 AM
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27. US donors are the chief financiers of the KKK

Why dont they publish the freaking cable?

I gather that "Saudi donors" is being taken as the Saudi government?
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:03 PM
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25. the OBL guy is just someone that gets popped out
whenever the sheep need to be cowered a little bit.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:39 AM
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4. Well, duh. How can we have a "War on Terror" without terrorists?
I mean, the FBI can only sting so many failed terror attacks. And without a "War on Terror", how could we justify all the imperial military spending?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:40 AM
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5. Info that is going on 20 years old
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:41 AM
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7. We knew it.
Everything else we endured under the Bush Administration was a deflection from the truth.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:59 AM
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11. And Clinton administration was a deflection from truth in BCCI Report and its outstanding matters
that should have seen entire Bush1 administration put in jail for life....instead we we ended up with Bush2, 9-11, and Iraq war.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:03 AM
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12. Hopefully, all this Julian Assange watershed will give Obama a chance
Edited on Mon Nov-29-10 10:04 AM by The Backlash Cometh
to clean the slate and get us back on a course that's based on the truth.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:07 AM
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14. I'll believe it when BCCI books are opened, reopened and finally.....documents turned over
and exposed that should have been shared with the public citizenry in the 90s.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:14 AM
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15. In full agreement.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:45 AM
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9. Maybe...Just Maybe
This could get some tongue wagging about the initial reason bin Laden used for the 9/11 attacks...the U.S. troops that were stationed in Saudi Arabia. Then maybe, just maybe, there can be an open discussion about how Wahabi Islam, based in Saudi Arabia and financed by the royal family has been a big money conduit to the "terrorists"...or how the Saudis felt threatened by Saddam Hussein and had far more motives to want him out of the way than the U.S. did. Maybe...but doubtful. America's corporate media short attention span prevails...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:52 AM
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10. Bomb, Bomb Iran: The Top 5 Most Shocking Things About The Wikileaks

Bomb, Bomb Iran: The Top 5 Most Shocking Things About The Wikileaks

<...>

But for all the Administration's condemnations and the muted international response to date, there were five astonishing revelations uncovered by the 120 reporters given early access to the documents.

1. Nearly every country in the Middle East wants us to attack Iran...

2. State Department officials ordered U.S. diplomats to spy on their foreign and UN counterparts...

3. North Korea supplied Iran with long-range missiles...

4. Iran used the auspices of the Red Crescent to smuggle spies and weapons into war zones...

5. U.S. foreign policy relies heavily on blog-ready gossip items...

link

Guess the headlines are going to drive traffic.




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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:19 AM
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17. gasp! -- n-o-o-o! can't be?!?!?
so it's in the news again -- saudi and al queda connections.

how many more times before the political establishment takes it seriously?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:25 AM
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18. in other shocking news, there is gambling at Rick's Cafe Americain
Edited on Mon Nov-29-10 10:30 AM by eShirl
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:00 AM
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19. and of FOX news, too
n/t
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 11:15 AM
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20. in big bold letters -----> DUH!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 05:45 PM
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22. Kick
:kick:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:00 PM
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24. LIHOP or MIHOP all the way baby! nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:40 AM
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28. Think about it.
Without the Al Qaeda boogie man there would be no justification for current and future wars. This smells like the way the Soviet Union was always propped up as a greater threat than they actually were. The difference is in scope. Jmho, of course, but eventually TPTB will have to allow (encourage) another 9/11 level attack.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:52 AM
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29. Greg Palast in 2001: "Pay Me Or I Will Blow You Up"
Osama is often compared to Hitler but he should be seen as John Gotti times one hundred. He is running a massive international protection racket: Pay me or I will blow you up. The fact these payments are made is one of the things the Bush administration is trying very hard to cover-up.

Now whether these payments were paid because they want to or it is coercion the Bush administration does not want to make a point of it. I have to tell you the Clinton administration was not exactly wonderful on this either. One of the points I made on the BBC was there was a Saudi diplomat who defected. He had 14,000 documents in his possession showing Saudi royal involvement in everything from assassinations to terror funding. He offered the 14,000 documents to the FBI but they would not accept them. The low-level agents wanted this stuff because they were tremendous leads. But the upper-level people would not permit this, did not want to touch this material. That is quite extraordinary. We don't even want to look. We don't want to know. Because obviously going through 14,000 documents from the Saudi government files would anger the Saudis. And it seems to be policy number one is we don't get these boys angry. Unfortunately, we see the results. We are blowing up Afghanistan when 15 of the 19 bombers were from Saudi Arabia.


http://www.gregpalast.com/guerrilla-of-the-week-guerrilla-news-network-speaks-with-greg-palast/
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:52 AM
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30. this is a surprise?


:shrug:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:56 AM
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31. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 08:57 AM by SpiralHawk
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:58 AM
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32. "Sneer." - xVP Dickie 'Five-Military-Deferments' Cheney (R)
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