CIA implanted electrodes in brains of unsuspecting soldiers, suit alleges

[avaistheone1]

Source: Raw Story

A group of military veterans are suing to get the CIA to come clean about allegedly implanting remote control devices in their brains.

It's well known that the CIA began testing substances like LSD on soldiers beginning in the 1950s but less is known about allegations that the agency implanted electrodes in subjects.

A 2009 lawsuit (.pdf) claimed that the CIA intended to design and test septal electrodes that would enable them to control human behavior. The lawsuit said that because the government never disclosed the risks, the subjects were not able to give informed consent.

Bruce Price, one plaintiff in the lawsuit, believes that MRI scans confirm that the CIA placed a device in his brain in 1966.



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/cia-allegedly-implanted-electrodes-brains-unsuspecting-soldiers/

[LAGC]

1. You hear paranoid schizophrenics talk about "government implants" in their brains alot...

Would be crazy if it really happened.

[rug]

3. Really crazy.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26928.htm

[leeroysphitz]

13. So crazy it just might WORK...

[MilesColtrane]

2. Should be easy to provide evidence of an implant.

Just have a doctor take it out.

It would be more difficult to prove that the CIA put it in though.

[Ian David]

5. It really needs to be removed. An X-ray or MRI may not be conclusive.

A strange shape on an x-ray that looks like an implant can be many things.

For example, one of those weird tumors that grow hair and teeth.

Or fragments of elastic waistband material that work under the skin and accumulate in clumps sometimes.

Or fragments of metal, wood or glass from a car accident or other mishap. (My mom had fragments of glass under her skin for years).

[MilesColtrane]

11. I've heard that some kids are notorious for sticking things up their nose.

Who knows what could be in Ralph's sinuses?

[hobbit709]

4. I think his tinfoil hat is too tight.

[Ian David]

6. Would they? Yes. Could they? I don't think so, not between 1950 and 1975.

Today, we can barely remotely control cockroaches this way.

However, IMHO, they COULD have been able to have a very rough kind of control-- for example, flipping a switch that makes you hungry, angry, scared, sleepy, confused, etc.

[hobbit709]

7. That would take more than some kind of electrode.

there'd have to be some kind of control circuitry at the least. Unless they got you tied down and hardwired, there'd have to be a receiver of some sort. That would show up much more than just a little electrode.

[formercia]

8. It could be nothing more than a dipole with a detector that generates a signal in the brain

A couple of wires and a diode.

Like a crystal radio, except it's activated by a microwave transmitter.

[hobbit709]

9. you'd think they might want that a little more frequency selective at least.

otherwise standing near a microwave would trigger it, which just might raise some suspicions.

[formercia]

10. A dipole is a resonant antenna.

One could just tune it to operate in a band that wasn't in use at the time. Modulating the signal is used to vary the effect on the subject.

[hobbit709]

12. Not necessarily.

I used to work on the 2-8.5 GHz range. It would have to be very precision cut to the frequency needed.

[formercia]

14. I used to work there

You would be surprised what you can use for an antenna. I know what their technology was back then,and what they could do with it.

It doesn't matter how sensitive the antenna is, you just blast it with a powerful microwave transmitter. High path loss? Just crank up the power.