Willie Nelson Calls For National 'Teapot Party' After Arrest

[asdjrocky]

CANNABIS CULTURE - Country music and pot community icon Willie Nelson has responded to his Friday arrest in Texas for marijuana possession by calling for the creation of a National "Teapot Party" to legalize marijuana.

In an email to popular pot website CelebStoner, the well-known singer wrote, "There's the Tea Party. How about the Teapot Party? Our motto: We lean a little to the left."

"Tax it, regulate it and legalize it," Nelson continued. "And stop the border wars over drugs. Why should the drug lords make all the money? Thousands of lives will be saved."

Nelson was arrested at a US Border Patrol checkpoint in Sierra Blanca, Texas on the morning of Friday, November 26 when officers found six ounces of marijuana on his tour bus. Border guards said they smelled the strong odor of marijuana emanating from the vehicle and ordered a search. Nelson claimed the pot was his and was arrested with three others.

There is a great interview with Willie at link-
http://cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2010/11/29/Wille-Nelson-Calls-National-Teapot-Party-After-Arrest

[Kingofalldems]

1. K and R for Willie

Excellent idea.

[asdjrocky]

2. Thank you, it's true, Willie rules. nt

[PeaceNikki]

3. Here's the Facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/TeapotParty?v=wall

[asdjrocky]

8. Thanks! nt

[bluedigger]

45. Over 16,000 "likes" already!

That's almost Olbermannian in 24 hours! Where's the "I'm with Willie!" graphics, oh photoshop artistes?

[RainDog]

148. Tues: more than 25,500 who are saying yes to the teapot party n/t

[progressoid]

57. Check out the photos

[polichick]

4. I'm with Willie! The hypocrisy of the "war on drugs" is beyond disgusting. nt

[NorthCarolina]

60. Criminalizing minor possession helps to keep unemployment numbers lower

than would be the case otherwise.

[howmad1]

99. And the private prison industry in the chips.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

5. LONG LIVE WILLIE !

[PeaceNikki]

6. Also...

His good friend -- and fellow Farm Aid founder, John Mellencamp -- recently started a Facebook page to encourage support for Willie becoming a recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.

http://www.facebook.com/WillieNelsonNobelPrize

[panader0]

7. "Nelson claimed the pot was his"

Way to go Willie. He didn't try to foist it off on a roadie. K&R

[awoke_in_2003]

47. Willie is a stand up guy...

a native Texan- when that used to actually mean something.

[sad sally]

189. Wonder if Billy Bob Thornton's appearance on Letterman

the week before Willie's arrest might have alerted the po-lice? Billy Bob and Dave had some good chuckles about the smokin' that went on in Willie's bus.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. Great idea!

[meow mix]

10. sounds good sign me up

[auntsue]

11. Yesterday on DU there was a thread about Willie

saying he was in favor of the "tea party" and everyone went off on hime saying his brain was pickled by pot - oooo it was ugly. Now LOL - it was the "tea POT party". Oh too funny and houw quick everyone was too judge!!!

[HuckleB]

126. That's sad and hilarious. Yikes.

[Little Star]

12. As a non-user I say....

Willie has a good argument:
"Tax it, regulate it and legalize it," Nelson continued. "And stop the border wars over drugs. Why should the drug lords make all the money? Thousands of lives will be saved."

Go Willie!

[tpsbmam]

105. ITA. And as a non-user who could now REALLY use medical marijuana, I say

do it NOW!

[Myrina]

107. Same here.

:thumbsup:

[Ian David]

13. Here, I've got a flag Willie Nelson can use for the Tea Pot Party...

[asdjrocky]

15. Don't tread on me, dude.

I love it. Really, I am laughing out loud.

[RainDog]

24. LOL. love it.

may I share your work elsewhere?

[Ian David]

31. Thanks! Please do! n/t

[LuckyLib]

111. Our DU moran looks so much better with these signs!

[icnorth]

14. Willie you are just too damn intelligent...

exhibits of intellectual discussion in the pot prohibition circles is verboten.

[John Q. Citizen]

16. Man, i was listening to Willie on 'Piano Jazz' just yesterday.

[asdjrocky]

26. Me too!

It's my privet wastful sin. I like to drive around at night and listen to that show.

[John Q. Citizen]

27. It was a great show, a re-broadcast from 2002

I was sitting at home trimming medical cannabis flowers thinking just how appropriate it all seemed.

[asdjrocky]

28. His "All of Me" is wonderful and cozy.

By far my favorite version.

Edited to add-
And yeah, it's the time of the year for sticky fingers.

[awoke_in_2003]

48. his "Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain"...

is my personal favorite

[me b zola]

17. K&R

I'm with Willie.

[Swamp Rat]

18. I'M IN!!!! .. I'm a little teapot short and stout...

:smoke:

[Motown_Johnny]

20. Legalization is what this is about

trying to continue the song with a rhyme, did such a poor job I thought I better explain

[asdjrocky]

38. You know it my friend!

Way'at Rat!

[awoke_in_2003]

49. here is my handle...

now let go of my spout :)

[dogday]

115. I am loving that picture Swamp

:thumbsup:

[Chulanowa]

19. Willie thinks the border drug wars are over marijuana.

That's almost cute, with how quaint it is.

[NNN0LHI]

21. Bet he has just the guy to lead the party too. Richard “Kinky” Friedman

Go Kinky!

[awoke_in_2003]

50. I used to love Kinky...

but during his governorship campaign, some of his racist tendencies came to light.

[Javaman]

62. I had the unfortunate opportunity to work with him a few years back.

I will say this: he should remain a writer.

[pscot]

90. Jumped the shark, he did

There's a fine line between prankster and crank.

[Javaman]

97. He's been a crank for a long time...

It just took a while for the public to catch up.

[pattmarty]

110. He claims to be a libertarian, he definitely IS NOT a racist.

[awoke_in_2003]

142. is calling bowling balls...

n*%%#$ eggs not racist anymore?

[pattmarty]

146. Link? any kind of proof? Why the fuck should I believe you?

[awoke_in_2003]

147. a quick google search...

of "Kinky Friedman bowling balls" will bring you the link for the audio from the 80's. But why the fuck should I help you out? Oh, and I never fucking told you to believe me- I figured you were fucking old enough to do your own fucking research.

[Javaman]

61. I'm assuming you are being sarcastic...

I live in Austin have actually worked with that halfwit friedman.

I will just say this about friedman: if the conversation isn't about kinky, he will make sure that it is.

[NNN0LHI]

68. Didn't Willie Nelson support Kinky Friedman for governor of Texas?

Thought he did.

Don

[PeaceNikki]

69. No, he supported Kinky Friedman for agriculture commissioner

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/richard-kinky-friedman/willie-nelson-promotes-kinky-friedman-on-radio/

[NNN0LHI]

72. Oh, thanks. Thats better

[NNN0LHI]

184. From your link

>>>In his 2006 gubernatorial campaign, Friedman even pledged to name Nelson to the position of Texas Energy Czar if he was victorious. It didn't come to pass.<<<

[Blue_In_AK]

22. You GO, Willie.

I LOVE that guy.

[Initech]

23. Where do I sign up?

:smoke:

[slay]

30. I'll sign up too!

willie nelson = voice of reason. :hippie:

[Skittles]

25. the man still has his marbles

yes INDEED

[RainDog]

29. just say no to the police state n/t

[defendandprotect]

123. So true -- in a sense, it's not even about pot .... it is about the police state...!!!

And parents should wake up to the reality that prison is a damned bigger

threat to their kids than treating pot as a health issue ---!!!

[Jackpine Radical]

32. Willie is a giant. Willie rules.

I think I'm gonna head for Amazon & pick up some Willie albums to put with my Dixie Chicks stuff.

[asdjrocky]

37. "put with my Dixie Chicks stuff."

Classic.

[awoke_in_2003]

51. here is a great starter CD....

http://www.amazon.com/Willie-Nelsons-Greatest-Hits-Some/dp/B0000DG00C/ref=sr_1_5?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1291098283&sr=1-5

[Tuesday Afternoon]

33. puff puff pass to the left

:smoke:

[LynneSin]

34. You don't have used drugs to understand that Willie makes sense

never touched the stuff, not even pot. But the concept that we allow drug lords to get filthy rich while we waist tax dollars busting folks like Willie Nelson. It's just wrong.

We need a sensible drug law.

[demigoddess]

44. I'm getting old, I would like to (legally) be able to use some

before I croak. What else is old age good for???
Kand R for Willie

[howmad1]

102. And the drug lords support our congress critters, don'tca know.

[defendandprotect]

121. Exactly ... all populations hate wars, but tell them there's a threat and they'll support it!!

Tell parents pot's a threat to their kids??!!!

BS -- prison is a threat to their kids!!

Nothing like a little pro-war propaganda to move things to the right!!

[BolivarianHero]

35. I smelled weed in a local pedestrian overpass today...

I joked with passerbyers that it smelled like Willie Nelson paying tribute to Jimi Hendrix.

[Dinger]

36. K & R For Willie!

[Mafia Killer]

39. Right on Willie

time for some solidarity.

[asdjrocky]

40. For sure Mafia Killer!

Welcome to DU :hi: :smoke:! Just a question, how many mafia have you killed?

[kestrel91316]

41. K&R

[pleah]

42. K&R

[midnight]

43. Thanks for the motto....

[orbitalman]

46. Why not?? After all, most of the people are wayyyy ahead of Washington ! n/t

[defendandprotect]

52. Legalize Marijuana and stop the insanity of the Drug War and its violence .....

[madmax]

53. k&r For Willie

[Warren DeMontague]

54. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it.

Enough, already. I don't need my tax dollars arresting Willie Fucking Nelson.

[Ganja Ninja]

55. Sign me up.

And this time, lets not let any conservatives into this party.

[h9socialist]

56. Mama, don't let your babies grow up to be Republicans!

[paparush]

58. Keep Your Hands Off My Willie!!!!

Applicable to various causes including sane pot laws, and the current TSA.

[Crowman1979]

59. Good idea! I just hope it doesn't get hijacked by neo-cons.

[Javaman]

64. You know he's a libertarian, right? nt

[Crowman1979]

67. And so was the Tea Party before 2009.

[Javaman]

75. And your point is? nt

[pattmarty]

112. What exactly is your fucking point? Define me "libertarian". I have.........

........a lot more in common with some self described libertarians than a lot of self described "liberal/progressives" on this website. When you "define" libertarian, please continue with your high (definitely no pun intended) intelligence and describe YOUR definition of "liberal".

[Warren DeMontague]

140. Apparently, "liberals" want to outlaw adult porn, pancakes, and happy meals.

I guess I'm a "libertarian", too, if that's the case.

[Javaman]

151. I ask you a question and you reply with a question.

I'm an FDR democrat, not a libertarian, so yes, I will always feel suprior to a libertarian.

"I have a lot more in common with some self described libertarians than a lot of self described "liberal/progressives" on this website."

Perhaps then, you should choose another site if this one isn't to your liking.

[pattmarty]

180. First things first. You didn't ask ME a question. It was I that asked........

........you to define me libertarian and a liberal/progressive which you half answered. Nelson IS NOT a libertarian as he supported Nader AND Kucinich. Tell me an "Austin libertarian" who would support one much less both of them. I too call myself a FDR/LBJ Democrat being for the working class ideals such as unions, civil rights, a strong national defense (but not empire and hundreds of "bases" overseas), no government in ones personal business (libertarians are for that) and most of the "peripheral" liberal ideas too. I got pissed because you said Nelson was a libertarian, which he is not. This is obvious by the shit he is involved in and his freely expressed views. Liberals and libertarians views intersect mainly when it comes to government getting involved in your personal liberties, ie marijuana use. I like this site just fucking fine, thank you. Maybe you ought to look up the definitions of liberal & libertarian in a fucking dictionary.

[Crowman1979]

169. My point is that Willie needs to watch out for turf-roots organizations that try to take over.

[HuckleB]

134. Willie Nelson - Willie Nelson Gets Political (Supporting Kucinich)

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/willie-nelson-gets-political

Some libertarian. :rofl:

[pattmarty]

185. I agree. I don't quite know what to think about some posters here.............

...............Maybe the glass half full thing or something more "Beckish", I just dunno.

[Javaman]

63. While I enjoy Willie Nelsons music, I hope you are all aware of the fact that he's a libertarian. nt

[slay]

66. Beats Republican every day of the week

and even beats Dems on some days. I don't consider Libertarians evil - just a bit misguided. :hi:

[NNN0LHI]

71. All the Libertarians I know are just Republicans who smoke pot

Every damn one of them.

Don

[Javaman]

73. Yup. Like the old joke goes, Do you know what a Libertarian is?

a pot smoking republican.

[pattmarty]

183. So THAT'S your definition of a libertarian. How enlightening.

[axollot]

76. yup. everyone here too. *smh* n/t

[Javaman]

74. really?

have you ever actually read their platform? You might change your mind.

[slay]

81. Yes, I should have clarified I meant some social issues like smoking pot

i have read their platform and it's their heartlessness and lack of compassion for other which makes me steer clear of their movement.

[Javaman]

88. Whew!

I call them the broken clock party, correct only twice a day.

They want out of the war (who doesn't?), they want to legalize pot (who doesn't?).

But after that, they go completely off the rails.

Cheers!

[donquijoterocket]

116. been there done that

Held one of the first libertarian caucus meetings in my state in my living room. Studied hard went right back to the Democratic party.
This is a pretty cool move on Willie's part , almost as cool as when he sent whiskey and bandannas to the Democratic legislators holed up in Oklahoma who'd fled Republican extralegal legislative maneuvering in the Texas legislature .
During the controversial mid-decade 2003 Texas redistricting attempt by Republicans in the Texas Legislature, Nelson supported the quorum-busting "Killer Ds," Democrats who left the state and briefly stayed at a Holiday Inn in Ardmore, Oklahoma to prevent the Texas House of Representatives from considering the legislation.<21> Nelson sent the legislators a case of red bandannas, T-shirts, and a case of whiskey with a note that read "Stand your ground." According to Time, "The Dems then broke into a campfire-style sing-along of Merle Haggard's 'Okie from Muskogee' from a second-floor balcony...At a press briefing that evening, legislator Jim McReynolds said, "We have not heard from Governor (Rick) Perry or Speaker (Tom) Craddick, but we have heard from the most powerful Texan of all, Willie Nelson."
Willie Nelson during a show in Cardiff, January 2007
http://www.donaldschwab.com/Willie%20Nelson/WillieNelson.htm
This(decriminalization/legalization of marijuana) along with the repeal of DADT is coming all the forces of regression and oppression can do is delay the inevitable and display their overweening smug self-righteousness and sanctimony.

[Javaman]

152. So and this means?

that willie is a dem or a libertarian?

just because he supported the Dems in their fight against redistricting, doesn't mean for a wit that he's suddenly no longer a libertarian.

I'm a Texan and had lived through that complete travesty of government.

While willie maybe a libertarian, doesn't mean he's a repuke. And as any thinking person would come to understand that the redistricting was unconstitutional. Just because a person is a libertarian doesn't always equate to one being a halfwit.

He like anyone else back then, who actually paid attention, knew what was going on and realized that it wasn't only a Democratic Party issue.

[Xithras]

79. A libertarian is essentially a Republican with a strong darwinist/anarchist streak.

Conservative on business (no taxes, free to do whatever they want), conservative on government (no services, fend for yourself), and liberal on social issues (gays, pot smokers, an open immigration policy, and abortion are all OK with them).

I'll concede that they're better than Republicans on social issues, but they're far worse on everything else. It's a mistake to think of them as any kind of political ally. Libertarians want a complete abolishment of all social programs, ranging from Welfare and Social Security, to your local schools and public libraries.

[slay]

80. You're right - better on social issues but totally selfish and uncaring about everything else

i should have clarified i meant social issues like smoking pot.

[Javaman]

93. I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that

Gays and abortion are okay with them. Although their party platform appears to be "okay with gays and abortion", statements made by various libertarians appear contrary to that point.

Libertarians are nothing more than pot smoking repukes. period.

While they may spout a number of "appealing talking points" to their mouth breathing masses, they get down right medieval when pushed to clearly define their positions.

Like Communism, they appear to work just fine on paper. In practice, not so much.

[Xithras]

98. The Libertarian position is "No government regulation"

Individual Libertarians may not like gays, or abortion, but their political stance is fairly consistent...they want no laws governing those things. They may think that gays are going to hell, and that abortion is murder, but they also believe that it's not the states job to limit the rights of gays, or to ban medical procedures of any kind.

As one Libertarian once put it to me: "Gay marriage shouldn't be a political issue, because the government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all. It should be between you and your pastor."

Libertarianism is governmental minimalism, consistently and across the board.

[defendandprotect]

122. Libertarians are as anti-social programs as GOP -- and human rights ...

plus that the rw Libertarians are low road any time there's a choice.

You need to deal with the left wing Libertarians --

[Javaman]

150. Well, like any half witted party...

it looks great on paper, but in reality, it fails.

Many people love to interpret libertarianism as being best buddies with the john birch society, when in fact, although they are related, are quite separate.

However, in todays political climate, much as the republican party has been essentially taken over by the religious right, the libertarian party has been basically taken over by the birchers.

So while we would like to debate the merits of libertarianism as it appears in its original form, that would be the equivalent of debating Marx's communism against what was actually practiced by stalin.

[HuckleB]

132. Willie Nelson Urges Georgia to Pass Anti-Dogfighting Legislation

Willie Nelson Urges Georgia to Pass Anti-Dogfighting Legislation

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312723,00.html#ixzz16nmu0I1p

[HuckleB]

131. Willie has supported Nader and Kucinich.

I'm not sure how that makes him a libertarian, anyway.

[Warren DeMontague]

139. so he's a left-libertarian, as are many good progressives here.

That fact will continually be lost on the folks who endlessly enjoy conflating the following labels:

"libertarian" (philosophical position)

"left-libertarian" (same)

"Libertarian" (political party)

"Ayn Rand Zombie" (self-explanatory) and

"Idiot" (see Ayn Rand Zombie)

[eShirl]

78. What?! Well fuck him then, and I'm against anything he's for!

:sarcasm:

[Javaman]

94. That's right, go from zero to 1000...

that always works out well.

The very last thing I will do is trust political standings of singers.

I listen to their music, I do not take their advice nor hold than to be anything more than singers.

granted there are singers who "appear" to lean to the left. But again, while I like that they have a sense of reason, by no means do I use their opinion as a benchmark by which I make my decision regarding politics.

Anyone who does, is a fool.

[reggie the dog]

84. he also does lots for farm aid

[Javaman]

95. and how does that effect his political leanings?

did I ever say that libertarians are unable to show compassion?

[HuckleB]

137. And he donates to Democrats, including Kucinich.

http://www.tennessean.com/assets/pdf/DN898771026.PDF

[asdjrocky]

103. Your point? nt

[Javaman]

153. I answered my point up thread. nt

[pattmarty]

113. Oh fucking puhleeeeeeeeze!!!! You wouldn't know a fucking libertarian..........

........if he kicked your ass.

[Javaman]

154. LOL.

that is your only response?

That's all you got?

Wow, way to debate and support your point.

i live in Austin, Texas. Aside from it being virtually the only liberal hold out in an otherwise red state, it is also a huge strong hold for the Libertarian party.

I know of what I speak of. So next time, try using a little insight and information instead of ridiculous comments.

Add to the conversation, not subtract.

[pattmarty]

181. See reply #151.

[HuckleB]

125. Newsflash: Willie Nelson supported Ralph Nader in 2000.

That doesn't sound like something a "libertarian" would do.

[Javaman]

155. Newsflash...

he didn't support the dems.

there was no viable libertarian candidate back then and willie has gone on record as saying that he supported nader as such.

[HuckleB]

159. You've made a claim, but Willie's overall record doesn't support your claim.

Nice try.

PS: http://www.tennessean.com/assets/pdf/DN898771026.PDF

[Javaman]

167. So showing one link of him giving to the democratic party

means?

Just because the man is a libertarian, doesn't mean he's unreasonable.

[HuckleB]

168. So ignoring that I've posted several links with a variety of evidence showing Willie supporting Dems

... and liberal causes means?

Just because you claim he's a libertarian, doesn't mean he is.

[Javaman]

172. believe what you want...

I've seen him a few times in concert and have seen him make statements aligning him with libertarians.

However, like I said many times, that doesn't make him unreasonable.

he gives to Dennis and supports the environment. Anyone tired of geoge w. moron's* stupitidy would have given to anyone other than a repuke (2008 showed us as much) and would have also tried to support a viable candidate.

and his position on the environment is nothing new. that's old news.

perhaps he's liberal leaning libertarian.

But his history regarding his taxes and why he didn't pay them were stances he took 20 years ago. Perhaps with time, he finally saw a bit of reason and is understanding that government regulations and taxes are the entry fee for a civilization.

I state again, I never said he was unreasonable.

[HuckleB]

173. I prefer evidence over belief, and the evidence does not support your claim.

The evidence indicates that he generally has no affinity for libertarian viewpoints outside of those that most Democrats agree with...

BTW, I've seen him in concert a good dozen time since the '70s, and I've never heard him say anything that would indicate he's a libertarian.

BTW, he also endorsed Claire McCaskill for Senate in 2006. Yet another Dem supported by Willie Nelson.

In 2010, he supported Dem Neil Abercrombie for Governor of Hawaii.

Hmmm.

[Javaman]

175. In other reply...

I stated, that perhaps he's changed, when I worked with him on a project back in 2000, he was a libertarian. He stated it to me. Yes, I have no proof of this and you don't have to believe me.

Since then, yes it appears that he has certainly mellowed.

Perhaps having to pay back past income taxes changed his mind a bit. Who knows.

But I certainly like the guys music and I never said he was unreasonable.

People change, maybe so has he.

[HuckleB]

178. I love Internet claims.

Especially ones that come long after another claim has been burst.

:rofl:

[HuckleB]

129. Willie Nelson endorses Kucinich (old DU thread)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x1616

Why would a "libertarian" endorse Kucinich?

[Javaman]

156. did I ever say that willie was unreasonable?

I just stated that he was a libertarian.

[HuckleB]

160. You've made that claim.

Unfortunately, most of what he publicly supports doesn't back up your claim.

PS: http://liberalstance.blogspot.com/2005/09/willie-nelson-barack-obama-farm-aid.html

[Javaman]

165. um, okay..

All it states is that he cooperated on Farm Aid with Obama back in 2005.

As I stated in another reply, I never said he was unreasonable.

But nothing in that link states that he's a Democrat or that he's not a libertarian.

[HuckleB]

166. Yes, that's one more piece of evidence, among many, against your claim.

Here's some more evidence against that claim: http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/465-willie-nelson

When did the libertarians become so concerned with the environment and support groups that advocate for public support for the hungry?

Interesting.

[Javaman]

170. Meh,

again, it's no mystery that willie has been in support of this.

while he may be actually changing his tune, this story is nothing new.

While I find libertarianism out right moronic, there is nothing that states that it's a rigid form of theology.

willie maybe a libertarain with progressive leanings. or at least beginning to lean that way.

but regarding the environment and willies support of that, well, that's nothing new.

Why do you think he supports bio-fuel?

to make a killing? LOL

[HuckleB]

171. So you're continuing to offer up nothing but a blind claim.

Got it.

BTW, is this something the libertarians support?
http://www.thln.com/?pageID=59D2685E-3048-7B4D-7BF41F3F1ED5F04F

Is this?
http://www.vfvs.com/AmericanIcon_WillieNelson_SupportsFullMandatoryFunding_VetsHealthcare.html

[Javaman]

174. And again, why this hero worship?

It appears as if you have a problem with me saying that he's not unreasonable?

That you can't find it in yourself that perhaps he's just not the democratic hero you want him to be?

the man is a musician. He sings really great songs.

he supports great causes.

That's really noble of him.

and to act as devils advocate, you infer by him supporting the puppy mills ban that libertarians are against that. That's weird. Only dems can support cute little puppies?

And on the other link, any thinking person would support the vets health care. You have to remember something, this is Texas; Football and the military go hand in hand and you don't dis either if you want to walk out of a bar alive. What is your point? Supporting the vets transcends political parties.

You can give me link after link. And I show that they are all gray areas of political support.

Frankly, if you don't want to believe me. I don't care.

in the end, does it really matter?

[HuckleB]

177. LOL!

I love the BS personal attacks.

Your claims went down in flames. Sorry that you can't accept reality.

[HuckleB]

138. Spend some time here, and then tell me how libertarian Willie Nelson is...

http://willienelsonpri.com/

:eyes:

[Javaman]

157. Spend some time where I live...

Austin, Texas then tell me how Willie Nelson isn't a libertarian.

[HuckleB]

161. Thanks for the red herring.

:rofl:

[Javaman]

163. right.

becaus willie lives here I don't have anymore information that you do? :eyes:

nice try.

and idol worship is very unattractive.

[HuckleB]

164. If you do, you haven't offered it.

Where you live is nothing but a red herring. Using it to support your claim is a logical fallacy.

It's interesting to note you've now offered up a blind personal attack. :rofl: Is that an Austin thing too? :eyes:

Yes, nice try, indeed.

BTW, Willie also performed at the Dem National Convention in 2008.

Some libertarian.

[Javaman]

176. as I stated in another reply...

I worked with him back in 2000. He stated to me that he was a libertarian then.

Maybe he changed. That's always possible.

I never said the man was unreasonable.

Last time I spoke to him was 2003. No politics came up per say, but it appeared as if nothing change in him politically.

I haven't had the chance to work with him since then, so anything can happen. And yes, I was aware of him playing at the convention, one of my buddies played back up.

He saw something in the dems in 2008, like we all did and still do, but that doesn't mean he is a Dem. It just means he supported them as many fallen out of grace republicans did as well.

[HuckleB]

179. That's your claim, now.

Of course, labels are meaningless, in the first place, which makes your claim and your blind adherence to it meaningless, especially in the face of the evidence.

[pattmarty]

187. Are you for real? The more you post, the more it "seems" you have.......

......a problem with Nelson. Worked with him? What did you do? Fix flat tires on the bus?

[pattmarty]

186. False. He is not a libertarian. READ the goddamn replies to your.......

.......inane posts and if you still don't understand, go over to your next door neighbor's and ask him/her to EXPLAIN it to you.

[Erose999]

65. Willie should move to one of the legal states. Then we can nuke Texas from orbit. Its the only way

to be sure.

I really don't think Willie would leave Texas and its good that we have people like him in the South to stand up to the fundies and neocons.

Willie is 77 years old... he could probably go to the doctor and get a scrip for whatever substance he wanted, provided it was one that makes money for Big Rx. Thats the thing these "moral panics" so ass-backwards, is that there are far worse things you can get legally.

For example, concerned citizens are clamoring to ban Four Loko, but I can go to the cut rate and get caffiene pills and grain alcohol.





According to the "moral majority," it must just be the HFCS and artificial flavoring that makes this stuff date rape in a can:

[Freddie Stubbs]

86. Which state is a "legal state?"

[Erose999]

96. California, Colorado, etc. Not technically "legal", but Willie can get treatment for his cateracts.

[sarcasmo]

70. Legalize personal usage, NOW!

[Uncle Joe]

77. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, asdjrocky.

[Swampguana]

82. I'm on board Willie!!!

[joeybee12]

83. Goddamn him for...

making sense! KNR

[Marnie]

85. Doesn't the desperate insistance

of pot lovers to be able to smoke when and where ever, prove that pot is addictive?

Just a word, the same ones of us who got cigarettes banned from most public places for health and sanitation and fire reasons are still out here. And at least cigarettes are not a mind and mood addling drug.
Plus it smells like burning cow dung.

[RainDog]

89. no.

Incredible that someone in the U.S. would try to make the claim that people who support the right of adults to make decisions for themselves indicates addiction.

This is a really repulsive argument - you are basically saying that anyone (whether they use a substance or not) who supports freedom is an addict.

The founders of this nation would have a word for someone with that sort of logic: tyrant.

I hope you don't drive a car, or use public transportation or ever ride in gas-powered vehicle, in fact. Those things pollute the environment far worse than any cigarette smoker ever will. But you like your gas-fueled vehicle so you don't care about that, most likely.

Which makes people who make these sorts of statements the most rank hypocrites around.

Here's one for you: How many Iraqi children did your govt. kill so that you could drive your car?

Honestly, the holier-than-thou bullshit brigade in this nation makes me want to puke.

[bluedigger]

92. You got anything to back that up, Marnie?

Anything at all, beyond your own assertion? :shrug:

The only desperation visible to me is displayed by the drug war profiteers of the police state, advocating for the status quo. :eyes:

[slay]

100. You are wrong in every possible way

#1 - Marijuana is NOT addictive. Look it up.

#2 - Nobody is talking about smoking pot in public places - we just want to be free from harassment by police and free to choose another substance other than alcohol.

#3 - Most liberals I know are not for making cigarettes illegal, just making it so others don't have to inhale their second hand smoke if they don't want to. Look it up.

#4 - It smells awesome. I have never had any weed that smells like "cow dung" - some mushrooms yeah sure but not weed. :P

#5 - Why do you hide your profile info?

#6 - If YOU don't want to smoke pot nobody is stopping you - but you damn sure don't have the right to try and stop me. Keep your prejudices to yourself please.

[asdjrocky]

106. Congratulations.

You are wrong on every single point. That's not easy to do, I mean, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Myrina]

108. Well, she was right on one point ...

... it does stink like hell. :rofl:

[donquijoterocket]

117. so does

A lot of the more expensive perfumes and colognes some people get persuaded to wear.Still smells better than smog or old beer.

[Myrina]

119. I guess it's all about perspective ...

.... I can't stand the smell of some sparked up weed. Or most perfumes. Or old beer. LOL!

[donquijoterocket]

109. no more so

Than your insistence on foisting your morals on everyone else proves self-righteousness and sanctimony is addictive.

[pattmarty]

114. I really don't want to get banished AGAIN, so I won't say to you what I want to.

[Warren DeMontague]

149. What?

Legalize it, regulate it, and tax it. No one is saying people should be "able to smoke when and where ever". Most pot smokers would settle for not being criminals for doing it in the privacy of their own homes. Fuck.

[felix_numinous]

87. K&R For WIllie Nelson

and standing up for the legalization of a plant that never hurt anyone.

[pscot]

91. Free Willie

[valerief]

101. Sorry, Willie, but I lean A LOT to the left. nt

[HuckleB]

130. And...?

:shrug:

[valerief]

133. Your question eludes me. nt

[HuckleB]

135. Your post eludes me. -eom-

[valerief]

158. I don't understand what you don't understand. nt

[HuckleB]

162. Did you even read the OP?

[valerief]

182. Yes, but your question doesn't answer mine. I still don't understand what you don't understand. nt

[HuckleB]

188. I don't know what your statement means in any way, shape or form.

And I'm not going to guess.

[lightningandsnow]

104. The war on drugs disproportionally affects marginalized groups.

I'm not impressed with the fact that people only start caring once it affects a privileged white guy.

[RainDog]

144. If you knew anything about many of the people who post here

you would know that your impression is wrong.

there are a lot of posts that talk about the way the drug laws disproportionately target minorities and poor people.

Willie Nelson, however, is an international public figure with a following across the political spectrum. If he were to use his fame to organize a counter-assault on the war on drugs - that would be a good thing for all - including minorities and the poor.

If you cannot understand how and why this is a good thing - well, that's too bad.

Nelson appeared and recorded with Snoop Dog, btw - because both are public figures/advocates for cannabis reform. I know Snoop is just a privileged black guy, but it's important for those in positions of public exposure to stand up for reforms.

Every major change that has occurred in American life happened because people in positions of privilege with public platforms used their positions to also advocate for change. The same was true for major revolutions - Lafayette in France, Franklin in America, MLK in the 1960s... so it's not just useless but counter to reform to gripe about someone with privilege who advocates for change when those very people become the catalysts for change that improve the lives of everyone.

[ProudDad]

118. K&R for an end to the phony "War on Drugs(tm)"

Another arrow in the quiver of the "Permanent War Economy(tm)" pumping up the Empire's GDP...

[defendandprotect]

120. Other than Hagelin's party, any other parties which support Marijuana legalization?

[apocalypsehow]

124. Kick, Rec. n/t.

[Hannah Bell]

127. willie has the muscle & connections to organize/publicize such a group.

[99th_Monkey]

128. Sign me up - I'm "takin' a toke for Willie!" right now. ~nt

[colsohlibgal]

136. Count Me In Willie!

Sounds like a fine plan to me.

[B Calm]

141. FREE WILLIE. Hell yes, I'd joing the teapot party!

[lunatica]

143. Willie Nelson might actually get it done!

Everybody loves Willie Nelson.

[HuckleB]

145. I prefer the Whiskey River, but K & R for common sense.