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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:08 AM
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What are the wealthy being asked to sacrifice?


We have a whole laundry list for the rest of us:

Social Security
Medicare
No single-payer
Endless war
Pay freezes
Layoffs
Cuts in education
etc...


But what are wealthy being asked to sacrifice?



:shrug:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:09 AM
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1. absolutely NOTHING. K&R
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:52 PM
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60. Say it again n/t
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:10 AM
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2. That is indeed the question that's been on my mind for months....
wealthy in terms of tax evading corporations as well as the personally wealthy.

What indeed?
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:12 AM
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4. They benefited from our system...

...and now they are walking away with the loot?

I wonder if they ever worry or think they are safe in those gated communities?


just sayin'
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:43 AM
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49. Nothing...They just keep taking and taking.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:12 AM
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3. Well, they have already lost their conscience....
not that many of them have noticed.:banghead:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:13 AM
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5. A tee time at the club....
A new patio for their summer digs in the Hamptons...

A lesser brand of Vodka...

These might be some of the things they would consider a burden...

If they came to fruition.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:24 AM
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11. They've been able to afford 6th and 8th vacation homes under Bush and Obama
and with that kind of wealth patios, vodka and tee time are downright middle class. We're talking multi-million dollar private jets, private islands, and six or seven luxury vacation homes PLUS various million dollar yachts. I've known some of them personally and most people here can't conceive of the kind of wealth that they have.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:31 AM
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14. For instance, Mrs WCGreen's cousin owns outright 17 radio stations....
I know some truly wealthy people myself.

What I was pointing out that it would be that insignificant to the truly wealthy, a minor inconvenience to pay a little more in taxes...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:36 AM
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17. It would really mean slightly less growth in wealth
their wealth would not significantly diminish, they would just see a slower rate of growth at this point because they are so obscenely rich that they can only get richer. They won't be taxed on what they own already, only future profits.

I know several owners and CEOs of major film studios, the Producers of strings of blockbusters, and I knew the late Roy Disney. All of them are/ were Dems, oddly enough.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:19 AM
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6. they don't HAVE to sacrifice anything
our government SERVES THEM
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:20 AM
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7. The same things. The only difference is they don't notice the hit.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:46 AM
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38. Is that true though? Are they really sacrificing anything - bonuses are up 5% this year on Wall St.
By AARON LUCCHETTI

Wall Street bonuses are set to rise about 5% this year, fueled by increases to compensation for employees in hedge funds, retail banking and private equity that offset declines for those in stock and bond trading, according to a survey by compensation consultants Johnson Associates Inc.

read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704506404575592644050046172.html
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:19 PM
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64. Technically, one can't "sacrifice" what one "doesn't notice"
;-)
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:22 AM
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8. Fuck All as per usual. eom
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:23 AM
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9. More wealth. Which is why nothing will happen.
Look, leave the rich alone. That's something that both mainstream Dems* and Repugs can agree upon.

See that asterisk? Yeah, I love it too.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:24 AM
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10. The rest of us

Do you have any idea how upsetting it must be to watch all of this?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:24 AM
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12. Their gardeners? n/t
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:28 AM
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13. Again, you're thinking too small
upper middle class people have gardeners. The wealthy have parks with dozens of caretakers. I know one multi-millionaire who owns about six luxury homes, her own private jet, and an island. A whole freaking Island right off the Dominican Republic. She goes there to work on her tan. And she ain't a fraction as rich as many out there.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:32 AM
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15. Meg Whitman had to give up her housekeeper.



After Nutmeg was caught, that is. :eyes:



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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:33 AM
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16. Cutting the servant's pay has made them grumpy.
I can't write my autobiography with grumpy servants moping around.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:39 AM
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20. If they cut anything they were just using the economy as an excuse
because the past two administrations have grown their wealth considerably.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:57 AM
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28. Jefferson tried to warn us.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:20 PM
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65. About sleeping with the help?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:15 PM
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67. That too.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:38 AM
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18. The wealthy never sacrifice anything and they never will. What could they possibly
sacrifice anyway, their third yacht? Their second vacation home? Obama needs to make them pay their fair share, which won't even have any effect on their daily lives. These ultra-wealthy people who complain about taxes are just plain old greedy.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:38 AM
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19. Good Fucking Question!
What would be so bad about a little pay freeze for millionaires? Cuts in bonuses? A little belt tightening for the fat cats?

Psycho fucking world we live in. Squeeze the working class to make juice for the rich.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:39 AM
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21. I did hear the custom built island industry took a hard hit.
So, I guess there is some level of "belt tightening" or maybe Dubai seems less of a fantastic idea to some of them.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:49 AM
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22. The rich could not withstand sacrifice
They know nothing of it and wouldn't understand it.




:sarcasm:



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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:55 AM
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23. Day-of-the-week Bentleys?





That fourth vacation "cottage"?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:56 AM
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24. Nothing. They are actually accumulating even more wealth because of all of this. (nt)
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:13 AM
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25. This is how I envision the wealthy protesting over the tax cuts....
(Man sitting in back of limo)
"Oh, Jeeves, hold that sign a little higher."
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:31 AM
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26. Exactly.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:38 AM
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27. Zip
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:53 AM
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29. "Certainty"
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 04:54 AM by Raine
I've actually heard the talking heads moaning about how the poor wealthy are having to deal with the "uncertainty" of whether they will get their tax cuts. :nopity: Oh the poor things! :sarcasm:

edit: typo
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:55 AM
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30. Poor things are going to need to build bigger safes for all their wealth. nt
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:57 AM
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31. The wealthy sacrifice humans
Of course the humans they sacrifice are strangers. Merely fellow countrymen who are unrelated to them. Greed must be fed by blood. Just not their blood.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:14 AM
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32. a second yacht, another vacation home in France, another coat made of human skin
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:27 AM
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33. the Poor, on a Stone Altar, With a Dull Blade
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:40 AM
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34. Well, they're having to sacrifice the illusion that the US has two major political parties.
nt
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:13 AM
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35. Other people's children.
It PAINS them to occasionally be forced to see the homeless on the streets or the human casualties of the wars waged in their names.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:38 AM
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36. But why should they?
They have worked sooooo hard for their billions.

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:43 AM
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37. Until a great shortening comes, they won't sacrifice anything.
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 07:44 AM by hobbit709
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:51 AM
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39. Why are you trying to start a class war?
Everyone knows that if you bring up the fact that we're sacrificing our infrastructure, social programs, and quality of life just to make the lives of the wealthy easier; then you must hate America!!!!11one!

:sarcasm:

K&R
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:12 PM
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51. ZERO. I wish someone in the MSM or Congress had the balls to shout this from the rooftops
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:52 AM
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40. The only thing that will make them care is a few of them getting physically harmed by the people.
Not like that's ever going to happen in a country filled with nosepickers that think they're going to BE Larry Elison or Bernie Marcus someday.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:56 AM
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42. "The privileged class never gets the point until they are running for their lives"
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:50 PM
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58. I've got to say, I think it has come down to exactly that.
We're going to win or lose a war here at home (most likely lose it) but we're not going to avoid one.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:51 PM
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61. I should put that on a t-shirt.
Is that from an author?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:53 AM
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41. The very term "wealthy" would indicate the answer.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:58 AM
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43. Nothing, they make the rules.

There is no countervailing force to stop them, yet. And when that force, by utter desperate necessity comes to be, it will not stop until this matter is finished once and for all.

k&r
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:21 AM
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44. We were told to ' Eat Cake' (yellow)
They are busy accumulating more wealth. The country that enabled them to get rich and they want to gut it and get the last dollar out of your pocket. Class war is and has been going on for a long time. They, the rich, are winning every battle. I hope they remember they need to win the last battle too, Revolution! That is when the masses rise up. A terrible thought indeed.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:43 AM
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45. Nada. K&R nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:17 AM
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46. The tiny cold hard remnants of their souls.
And they're happy to do it.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:18 AM
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47. Us.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:20 AM
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48. NOTHING! NADA!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:09 PM
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50. K&R - I've been wondering the same thing
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:15 PM
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52. They Pay The Pipers...
We just finished a very long and expensive campaign cycle, the next one has already begun. All over the beltway, Congresscritters are looking at their "warchests" that need to be rebuilt and in a hurry. Most will need $2 million or more to keep their jobs and the sooner they bag the cash the better they'll sleep at night.

The wealthy are the ones writing those checks right now. They're the ones whose phone calls get answered and its their interests that are now being catered to. To the wealthy, writing the checks to the various campaigns is their "sacrifice" as well as an "investment".
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:17 PM
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53. Why they are sacrificing YOU! Haven't you noticed?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:18 PM
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54. shout it from the rooftops!!
2 vs 98 .... :wtf:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 02:23 PM
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55. Oh, FFS. Leave 'em alone already.


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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 02:29 PM
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56. Contract for America
Tax cuts for the rich
Wage cuts for the rest
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:33 PM
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57. Duh - They might have to skip that 4th Ski Trip to Vail
...If the Bush tax cuts aren't extended.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:57 PM
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59. Hey, they have to suffer the sight of more and more of us living on the street.
Why won't anyone think of the suffering of the wealthy and what they endure just having to be chauffeured around to dinner or the shops?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:53 PM
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62. An illegal immigrant or two?
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:14 PM
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63. I would let the taxes for all of us go back up to Clinton levels
rather than let the rich bleed the system dry. In other words I would take a hit to see them PAY
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:23 PM
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66. One very wealthy person once said this:
Economic depressions/recessions/crisis are the times when wealth and assets are returned to their true owners: the super wealthy.

Some people still think that economic cycles are acts or god or something.
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