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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:16 AM
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This Modern World: The new bipartisanship
There is one thing Democrats and Republicans can work together to achieve



http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2010/11/30/this_modern_world
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:19 AM
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1. Bazinga
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de novo Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:19 AM
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2. He nailed it, as per usual. The Tepid Moderate.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:14 AM
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80. What's missing is the Moderate's total surrender to the Republicans
On issue after issue, Obama has given the Republicans what they demand. Even when he gives them everything they want, they demand more. And he gives them more. On and on, I'm sick of this...
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 08:03 AM
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90. .
:nopity:
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:19 AM
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3. This would be much funnier....
If it weren't 100% the sad, pathetic, miserable truth as to how things are playing out.

The only thing I remain on the fence on is if it's because of a calculating complicity or if it is 100% naivete bordering on stupidity. Neither one filles me with much comfort.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:51 PM
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31. It won't make you laugh if it isn't true. That toon made me laugh.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:19 PM
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33. Bush had the excuse of looking stupid
Some of us knew better, but stupid/naive is always more comforting than deliberate evil.

Do we think our Dems are stupid and/or weak? I doubt it- you don't win office by being so.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:42 PM
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50. My money is on complicity. nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 08:05 AM
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91. Mine too.
I can't escape that conclusion no matter how hard I try. Of course I could abandon objectivity entirely, as the Republicans do.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:38 PM
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62. i have a third option
and it's kinda crazy. :tinfoilhat: maybe he is just trying to stay alive. i mean literally.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:06 PM
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75. My early thoughts were it's not HIS life he fears for. Now?
With another couple of years to get my head around the way politics works over there, my suspicions are that he was almost certainly on the "payroll" when he made his bid. AND a perhaps even on the "payroll" from day one in politics. The speed of his rise from soup kitchen volunteer to POTUS certainly suggests he had some "help" from somewhere.

I suspect this pattern holds for most so called left wing polititians as much as for the right. You just don't get to be a power player in America without the approval of the Powers That Be.


We often make fun of the the right. And guess what? We're fucking fools for doing so. The right wing of today occupies nutjob territory to leave room for the business friendly New Left to move in. You're encouraged to take notice of the idiots at the extreme right, because it makes your alternate choice look at least a little less odious.

The American votors have been played for fools, and fools they have been falling over each other to vote for: Charisma; Promisses to keep various boogie men (illegals, gays, abortionists, unionists, terrorists, etc.) at bay; Promises to keep "the undeserving's" filthy mitts off Good American Taxpayer's money.

You cheerfully vote to keep your prisons so full of (relatively) harmless druggies that there is no room for the white collar criminals who make paupers of credulous fools; so little room that those who make a more traditional career in crime rarely do more than an absolute minimum of the time awarded them as punishment.

All it takes to convince a great many Americans to vote harm upon on their own heads is to convince them that greater harm will befall some other group they have been convinced to particularly despise.

You have a labour system so out of touch with reality that airline pilots holding hundreds of lives in their hands every day qualify for depression era sustenance assistance. How long before AQ finds one with a sick kid and offers him his child's life in exchange for his own and 200 others.

Your whole national philosophy holds that the best impression to leave is bootprints on the scalps of others.
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Blecht Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:58 PM
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79. This is what happens
when you don't get your news from American media -- you figure out what's going on!

Excellent post.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:17 AM
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85. agreed. nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 08:15 AM
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92. Thank you for sharing
your impressions. Great post. I agree with you completely.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:14 AM
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84. it's complicity. that is the game. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:21 AM
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4. Perfect....and yet....
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 08:21 AM by BrklynLiberal

Thank you sir. May I have another?


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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:24 AM
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5. That's really not fair
I think the Republicans are people we can do business with. They are skittish of Democrats because we've been so hyper-partisan to them over the years, but I think that recent steps - such as implementing the Simpson and Bowles recommendation of a freeze on federal salaries - will allow the Republicans to begin to trust us again. The healing process will take time, but it can succeed if we Democrats resolve to work hard enough.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:43 AM
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6. That's very dry. Like drinking straight vermouth.
:spray:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:03 AM
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13. Mojave vermouth.

:P
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:45 PM
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52. vermouth...
with a couple tablespoons of dessicant
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:44 AM
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7. You are 100% correct
Dems can learn to work together and be trusted by Republicans again.

It will be a rapid process too. All we have to do is everything they ask. You know, bipartisanship.
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prodigals0n Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:46 AM
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8. For the love of God, Manny, you CANNOT be serious
"That's really not fair
Posted by MannyGoldstein

I think the Republicans are people we can do business with. They are skittish of Democrats because we've been so hyper-partisan to them over the years, but I think that recent steps - such as implementing the Simpson and Bowles recommendation of a freeze on federal salaries - will allow the Republicans to begin to trust us again. The healing process will take time, but it can succeed if we Democrats resolve to work hard enough."


Honestly, please tell me you're joking and you forgot to include this below your comment:

:sarcasm:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:55 AM
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11. No, I've seen the light. I'm born again.
I was bitter at what I saw as Obama's absolute betrayal of working Americans who elected him. But then it struck me: he's right. I had judged the Republicans without walking a mile in their shoes.

We need to build bridges between us and the Republicans. They're people just like we are, and they feel bad about some of the things we've done to them. We need healing. Lots of healing.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:28 AM
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15. The only bridges I'm interested in building are like these over the Rhine River.
And driving several tank divisions over them.



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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 07:56 AM
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89. That's the kind of bridge I had in mind, too
:thumbsup:
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:03 PM
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27. There can be no healing without reparations
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 12:03 PM by somone
At a minimum, a good faith gesture should be offered by Democrats to Republicans, such as a permanent extension of tax cuts for the rich and the elimination of estate tax. :sarcasm:
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:24 PM
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58. How about a annihilating the democratic party?
that might be a start.:eyes:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:08 PM
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41. self delete
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 04:16 PM by slay
nevermind
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:00 PM
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43. Should I call 911 and have men with white coats pick you up? :)
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:12 PM
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57. Because the rethugs
have been so forgiving since when would that be? '92? Nope! They were pouring slime on Clinton before he was even the nominee! '94? Nope. If anything the hate was turned up that year. '96? Nope. Had to hear all the Clinton lies all over again. '98? Nope, we had impeachment on the table. 2000? Nope - stolen in Florida - appointed by SCOTUS. Obsessed w/ ABC.

Since '68 we have had 30 years of rethuglicans breaking and entering, covering up, pardoning, trickling down, destroying the middle class and education, S & L bailouts, two invasions and occupations, subversion of the Constitution and now obstruction and destruction of the pitifully little left of the middle class. Please tell me again who needs to walk in whose shoes?
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:28 PM
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73. the things we've done to them.
I KNOW! Those horrible things we did, like

hand them the 2000 & 2004 elections
signed their war powers thingie
Ignored the out & out lie in the SOTU
refuse to sue them for libel and slander as they wrote and called us traitors, commies, Nazis, terrorists and unamerican
Let them have their Patriot Act
taking prosecuting them for torture and other war crimes off the table
Refrain from laughing ourselves silly every time they open their lying mouths


It'll be tough, but I'm sure we can make it up to them.



















:eyes:
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:02 PM
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32. Miniluv got to Manny!
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:39 AM
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19. You forgot your sarcasm thingies.... I hope.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:48 PM
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53. Do you watch much British comedy?...
Manny has the delivery down cold.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:25 PM
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65. I do watch British comedy... I just didn't hear his accent. lol. nt
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:26 PM
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66. good point...
I was like "WTF?", but then knowing who it is I figured where he was going.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:13 AM
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21. Put the crack pipe down.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:17 AM
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22. ROFL
+1
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:40 AM
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24. I agree, Manny.
All we have to do is keep giving them everything they want, and surely sometime in the future, they will begin liking us.
Maybe after the new Austerity Measures for the Working Class & The Poor and the destruction of Social Security and Medicare, they will invite us to their next party?
We can only Hope.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:40 PM
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38. You cannot be serious stating that?
We have to make the Republicans trust us? We have to work harder?




:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:51 PM
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39. lololol
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:19 PM
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47. Yes, all that plus we commit mass suicide
That MIGHT please them enough to make allow them to reach across the aisle. And rummage through the pockets of our corpses for loose change.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:44 PM
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51. only a Brit...
could deliver those sentences so dry.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:30 PM
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60. WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MANNY
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 07:31 PM by Skittles
I WILL KICK YOUR GOLDSTEIN-STEALING ASS
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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:41 PM
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63. Is this sacasm?
If not http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-lJZiqZaGA">They're coming to take you away
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:33 PM
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69. It IS in FACT QUITE fair!
RepubliCONs have NOT compromised. They act like kids, who if they don't get their own way, throw a tantrum. They will hold up anything in the Senate that is not to their liking. If you just look at the record number of filibusters that the RepubliCONs have declared in the Senate, you will find, that they DO NOT WANT TO WORK with any member of the Democratic Party. They want it their way, or the highway. No "mainstream" RepubliCON voted for healthcare. There were even provisions in the law that the RepubliCONs proposed. When they were put into the law, they STILL VOTED AGAINST IT.
We cannot do business with them, because they do not want to do business with us. Their definition of compromise, is to have things THEIR WAY. Look up compromise in your Funk and Wagnels, and you will find that the definition is pretty much the opposite of this.

Screw the RepubliCONs, before they screw us all!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:53 PM
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78. Friggin' woodchucks.
They're everywhere! Get them off of me! Help!

Hey, wanna buy some really cheap shrimp? :smoke:
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:57 AM
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87. Is that you Mr. President?
:rofl:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 08:20 AM
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93. Are you kidding me?
What universe do you inhabit? Republicans are people we can do business with? Why don't you join them? According to you Democrats need to work harder to do what Republicans want so they will start to trust us again. :crazy:
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prodigals0n Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:52 AM
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9. DIE, liberal scum! DIE!
The tepid moderate reminds me of this Simpsons episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrTGyGSdrtI&feature=related

Apparently many Democratic "leaders" accept that translation.
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TheUnspeakable Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:54 AM
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10. k&r
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:56 AM
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12. Ah the 'moderate centrists' begging for some love from the right
over and over again. And again. And again.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:20 AM
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14. k
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:39 AM
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16. K und R.
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 09:39 AM by HughBeaumont
"When Jon announced his rally, he said that the national conversation is dominated by people on the right who believe Obama's a socialist, and people on the left who believe 9/11 was an inside job. But I can't name any Democratic leaders who think 9/11 was an inside job. But Republican leaders who think Obama's a socialist? All of them! McCain, Boehner, Cantor, Palin, all of them! It's now official Republican dogma, like tax cuts pay for themselves, and gay men just haven't met the right woman." - Bill Maher
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:40 AM
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17. Tom Tomorrow nail's Obama's leadership style lol nt
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:11 AM
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18. Exactly...knr
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:41 AM
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20. The new Contract for America
Lower taxes for the rich
Lower income for the rest
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:07 PM
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28. Much. much lower income for the rest
and the difference goes to the rich
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:18 AM
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23. recommend
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:41 AM
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25. Tom is giving the Dems a lot more credit than they deserve.
From where I sit it's pretty clear to me that there are 2 right wings.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:55 AM
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26. Two sides of the same coin - heads the republicans win, tails the democrats lose (nt)
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:07 PM
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29. knr
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:09 PM
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30. Wonder why
Tom didn't just draw the Tepid Moderate as Obama. Is he pulling his punches?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:23 PM
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34. Does the Bonner have to try to shoot Obama before he figures that they hate his guts?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:25 PM
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35. And yet there are people here that say we can compromise.
Really, there is.
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:33 PM
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36. K to the R..
I love the moment of silence slide where the tepid moderates facial expresion doesn't change from the previous window... classic.

And no, the Dems are not THIS naive - I am not buying this shit anymore :dem:
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:34 PM
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37. It's all about who gets to be the brain
Democrats, who have been around a heck of lot longer, or corporatist republicans who slowly took over this country. It's like a Star Wars movie and we know who is on the dark side.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:01 PM
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40. Best. Toon. Ever.
Emailing to the White House NOW! Jeez it's so openly bizarre at this point surely Obama will have to act like he's in charge at some point right?
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:09 PM
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44. Please don't call me Shirley.

;-)
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:29 PM
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68. Farewell, Leslie Nielsen...
We need you "Now, More Than Ever"(to use that phrase, just ONCE, for somebody who actually deserves it).
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:09 PM
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71. lol
saw on Keith last night he wanted to be eulogized with - let em RIP - then a big fart. :rofl:
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 04:57 PM
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42. Let's hope B.O. is reading this
and taking it to heart!
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:16 PM
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45. K&R
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:18 PM
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46. Yep... K & R !!!
:shrug:

:kick:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:30 PM
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48. Somebody send this to every Democrat.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:10 PM
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49. K&R
Gotta keep your sense of humor :rofl:
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jimmil Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:48 PM
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54. Seriously...
Do some people actually think Republicans give a shit about anything the Dems have to say? Really??? Everything Republican is "ME". I have absolutely hated the Republicans since Reagan decided he can spend as much as his friends wanted.
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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:52 PM
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55. K&R
Sad...but fucking true.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:53 PM
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56. Tom Tomorrow gets it
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:28 PM
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59. sadly, this is many here
proclaiming obama's godliness without taking into account at every opportunity to hit them hard, he's capitulated and been weak.

all in the name of bipartisanship.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:37 PM
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61. that's just too true.
why hasn't obama wised up? he has to know. so why does he keep pretending that he doesn't know?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:10 PM
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64. K&R
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:29 PM
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67. K&R thanks for posting n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:53 PM
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70. LOL! That's it in a nutshell.
:D
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:14 PM
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72. So right, and so obvious (to most). n/t
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RowdyRacer Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:34 PM
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74. I'll say it AGAIN...
The GOP and the Dems are the equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals. The Democrats are paid very well to fill the role of hapless LOSERS, pretending to "fight" for their constituents.
Look what they did after 2008 - they were handed the Whitehouse, along with huge majorities in Congress. They could have passed any legislation that they wanted to, and told the GOP to STFU. What did they do?? Elect Pelosi and Reid as their "leaders", and proceed to tie themselves in knots, finding excuses as to why the COULDN'T make the changes that they campaigned on. All of you(us) need to wise up and stop giving money and support to these frauds. They are not going to make waves and offend their corporate bosses and risk losing their source of money. They are not going to help regular Americans. The sooner we all realize this, the sooner we can figure out how to stop this nonsense.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:47 PM
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76. TT for WH Chief of Staff
God, but the last two years wouldn't have been such a nightmare with Tom instead of rahm.

Just how many times can TT nail it so well? Just how long before the WH gets a clue?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:53 PM
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77. This needs to be tattooed on the forehead of every Dem that says "bipartisanship" in earnest
Backwards, so they can read it in a mirror.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:17 AM
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81. Bipartisanship to repukes means doing everything THEIR way
n/t
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:44 AM
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82. Maybe life would be better
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 01:44 AM by AsahinaKimi
If Democrats just said, to HELL with Republicans and just do what they want. I mean, how different would that be?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:31 AM
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83. K&R. Unfortunately, even two years too late, 'we' still don't get it.
When someone tries to kill you and your family, inviting them to negotiate is not a smart move. No matter how many dimensions you can imagine.
:kick: & R & :rofl:

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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:25 AM
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86. makes the dems look stupid and not complicit.
though i LOVE tom tomorrow, i think it's the other way around.

moving on to that next step of realization is crucial, however, making fun of the superficial position of the dems can't hurt.

thinking people will ask, "are the dems REALLY that stupid?" i mean, tom nails the APPEARANCE of things, i.e., the naivete and stupidity is what the dems want you to see/think.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 07:16 AM
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88. President Obama may not think much of his progressive base
but he`s going to continue to try to play ball with his "friends across the aisle."
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