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WizardLeft62 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:34 AM
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Noam Chomsky: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal "Profound Hatred for Democracy on the Part of Our Political Le
Noam Chomsky on Democracy Now! with Amy Goodman from November 30, 2010

November 30, 2010

Noam Chomsky: WikiLeaks Cables Reveal "Profound Hatred for Democracy on the Part of Our Political Leadership"

In a national broadcast exclusive interview, we speak with world-renowned political dissident and linguist Noam Chomsky about the release of more than 250,000 secret U.S. State Department cables by WikiLeaks. In 1971, Chomsky helped government whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg release the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret internal U.S. account of the Vietnam War. Commenting on the revelations that several Arab leaders are urging the United States to attack Iran, Chomsky says, "Latest polls show] Arab opinion holds that the major threat in the region is Israel, that’s 80 percent; the second threat is the United States, that’s 77 percent. Iran is listed as a threat by 10 percent," Chomsky says. "This may not be reported in the newspapers, but it’s certainly familiar to the Israeli and U.S. governments and the ambassadors. What this reveals is the profound hatred for democracy on the part of our political leadership."

Listen to the Interview with Noam Chomsky at:

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/30/noam_chomsky_wikileaks_cables_reveal_profound
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:35 AM
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1. Well yeah. If we rule, they do not.
They want to be bosses, not employees.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:38 AM
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2. EXACTLY... the worst crime of all
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:39 AM
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3. thank goodness for chomsky. wish more people understood this.
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:56 PM
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14. Cheers to that. Agreed. n/t
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:41 AM
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4. Anybody got a transcript?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:44 AM
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5. the transcript should be available on democracy now after the broadcast.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:38 AM
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9. Thanks.
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 11:38 AM by MilesColtrane
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WizardLeft62 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:44 PM
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12. Chomsky to Goodman: On FDR, Obama & Politics
NOAM CHOMSKY: The Tea Party movement itself is, maybe 15% or 20% of the electorate. It’s relatively affluent, white, nativist, you know, it has rather traditional nativist streaks to it. But what is much more important, I think, is the outrage. Over half the population says they more or less supported it, or support its message. What people are thinking is extremely interesting. I mean, overwhelmingly polls reveal that people are extremely bitter, angry, hostile, opposed to everything.

The primary cause undoubtedly is the economic disaster. It’s not just the financial catastrophe, it’s an economic disaster. I mean, in the manufacturing industry, for example, unemployment levels are at the level of the Great Depression. And unlike the Great Depression, those jobs are not coming back. U.S. owners and managers have long ago made the decision that they can make more profit with complicated financial deals than by production. So finance – this goes back to the 1970s, mainly Reagan escalated it, and onward- Clinton, too. The economy has been financialized.

Financial institutions have grown enormously in their share of corporate profits. It may be something like a third, or something like that today. At the same time, correspondingly, production has been exported. So you buy some electronic device from China. China is an assembly plant for a Northeast Asian production center. The parts and components come from the more advanced countries – and from the United States, and the technology . So yes, that’s a cheap place to assemble things and sell them back here. Rather similar in Mexico, now Vietnam, and so on. That is the way to make profits.

It destroys the society here, but that’s not the concern of the ownership class and the managerial class. Their concern is profit. That is what drives the economy. The rest of it is a fallout. People are extremely bitter about it, but don’t seem to understand it. So the same people who are a majority, who say that Wall Street is to blame for the current crisis, are voting Republican. Both parties are deep in the pockets of Wall Street, but the Republicans much more so than the Democrats.

The same is true on issue after issue. The antagonism to everyone is extremely high – actually antagonism – the population doesn’t like Democrats, but they hate Republicans even more. They’re against big business. They’re against government. They’re against Congress. They’re against science –

AMY GOODMAN: Noam, we only have thirty seconds. I wanted ask if you were President Obama’s top adviser, what would you tell him to do right now?

NOAM CHOMSKY: I would tell him to do what FDR did when big business was opposed to him. Help organize, stimulate public opposition and put through a serious populist program, which can be done. Stimulate the economy. Don’t give away everything to financiers. Push through real health reform. The health reform that was pushed through may be a slight improvement but it leaves some major problems untouched. If you’re worried about the deficit, pay attention to the fact that it is almost all attributable to military spending and this totally dysfunctional health program.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:48 PM
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15. Starkly accurate analysis there.
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WizardLeft62 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:49 AM
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6. Check Later Today
Use the same url and check later today.

You can listen to the interview now though.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:06 AM
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7. Our leaders hate old people and the poor and the middle class.
...and yet we keep voting for them.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:26 AM
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8. Someone actually makes sense in the USA! Great article, rec...
Our "leaders" are really scared we will find out the truth about them; how they work, what they really do and what they really want to do.


mark
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:41 AM
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10. K&R. Cue the calls for Chomsky's
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 11:42 AM by bullwinkle428
incarceration at Gitmo.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:48 AM
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11. Chomsky goes from
a poll that says the greatest threat is Israel and the US and then to how our leaders don't like democracy - what's the connection and which democracy is he speaking of?
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:21 PM
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17. Good point....
I guess he's saying that the US political leadership hates democracy because the secret cables show how the US dislikes Iran and North Korea.

However, public opinion polls in Arab countries show that they don't hate Iran nearly as much as the US political leadership does.

This puts US political leadership at odds with the majority of Arabs and this shows how the US leadership hates democracy.

:shrug:

It makes no sense to me either.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 05:50 PM
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13. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, WizardLeft.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:02 PM
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16. Profound hatred for democracy among governments is not surprising.
Profound hatred for democracy among members of Democratic Underground should be, but I guess I've been here too long to claim that I'm shocked.
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