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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:45 AM
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Judson Phillips - Only property owners should be able to vote
Judson Phillips

"The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasn't you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if you're a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If you're not a property owner, you know, I'm sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners." - Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips, saying that only home owners should be able to vote.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/11/quote-of-day-judson-phillips.html
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:46 AM
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1. What a horrible person.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:09 AM
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12. He probably has his nose so up in the air...
...he can't even see the contempt in the faces of other people.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:47 AM
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2. And African-Americans could become 3/5ths of a person again.
:wtf: :crazy:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:56 AM
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8. And women are little more than that.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:35 AM
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26. Hardly

A missing rib is not as much as 3/5 of a person.

These people know their Bible.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:34 AM
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25. Aw C'mon, don't be a pessimist - 3/5 is MORE than "half full"

You can't even say that if the glass is 3/5 full that it's "half empty".

Watch as Phillips pulls out his HP150 Racial Calculator, and declares Barack Obama to be, um...

let's see, 1/2 white + (3/5 X 1/2) black = 8/10

By golly, that reduces to him being 4/5 of a person! He squeezed in an extra fifth!

Voting is gonna get real complicated...

Wadda freaking maroon.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:50 AM
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3. So, living (and renting) in NYC for over 30 years...
gives me less of a stake than someone with a pied a terre here? How fast can we foreclose on this asshole and put him out on the street.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:50 AM
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4. Then he believes that property owners should carry the whole tax burden.
Taxing anyone with no voting rights would be taxation without representation.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:54 AM
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7. As if those of us who pay rent don't pay taxes indirectly anyway.
What a dolt--my landlord's property taxes are figured into my rent, of course.

:wow:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:56 AM
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9. +1000
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:51 AM
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5. There you go! This is at the root of the Tea Party
they want to remove any rights and money from the common man and any minority. Apartheid is what these people want. They are a danger to a America.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:52 AM
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6. And the rest of us
would then be subject to taxation without representation.

In all respect to the founding fathers, they were a bit hypocritical at times. Not all of them, of course. Ben Franklin, I believe, was uncomfortable with the notion of only allowing property owners to vote.
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Lex1775 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:57 AM
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10. You know what really blew my mind...
I heard my wife's aunt argue in FAVOR of this exact same policy over the Thanksgiving weekend. This is an African-American woman who has lived in Berkley for over 40 years, was an active and often arrested protester during the civil rights movement, and has often told me she would rather die than ever pull a voting lever for a Repub.
I couldn't believe my ears. Apparently she was upset about something that was happening in Berkley with property owners and she felt that non-property owners were sticking it to them because they wouldn't be harmed by whatever the proposal was. And no, I don't know what she was talking about. I only came in at the last half of the argument and got the Cliff notes version from my Mother in law.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:17 PM
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24. Blew mine, too.
My dad said the same thing a couple of years ago. :(
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:04 AM
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11. Judson Phillips: Today's Worst Person in the Woooooorrrrllllddd...
:puke:
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:09 AM
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13. Sooo, what would happen then if say person #1 owns a small lot BUT person #2 owns multi acres? Does
their vote count for more? Do they get to vote more than once? I mean surely they have a bigger interest in the community right?:banghead:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:58 AM
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20. Seriously. Or what about an owner who rents her place out? How does she have any stake there?
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zigzagzed Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:15 AM
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14. Regression
Our discussion should be going the other way: towards expanding voting rights. Why do some states deny convicted felons the right to vote once they complete their sentences, even though (in theory) they have paid their debt to society? Why shouldn’t minors be given some voice in government? I think that the regressive nature of the Tea Party movement hasn’t yet fully emerged. Is Mr. Phillips’ love of the Constitution so great that he cannot accept how society has progressed since 1787?
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:26 AM
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15. His master must be so proud of him
This Koch sucker is putting forth the exact type of plutocratic shit he's been paid to spew. :grr:
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:27 AM
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16. so if lets say CHINA owns a strip mall, they should get how many votes?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:31 AM
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17. Many on the religious right also want a return to one household-one vote.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:37 AM
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27. Well, geez, they don't let husbands in the booth to verify that their wives are voting correctly

How's a guy supposed to be the head of the woman in Christ, if he can't make sure she's voting the right way?
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:53 AM
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18. The Tea Party obsession with the "founders" points to their lack of solutions.
They're frustrated, like all of us are frustrated. In looking for solutions, they turn their gaze backwards, as if the past was devoid of problems. It's the ultimate nostalgia trap; the thinking of grumpy old men.

The founders were men. Not gods.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:56 AM
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19. Yeah, that's just a lovely sentiment, now that millions have lostntheir homes....
Ugh. I guess women should also lose the right to vote, after all, they couldn't when the Founders wrote that. what an idiot.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:10 PM
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21. Effectively what we got today.

Those with all the property call the shots. What that dipshit doesn't get is that the property owned by the working class ain't enough to qualify for a seat at the table. To follow that logic those with the most property have the most interests and that is the case, they rule us all.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:13 PM
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22. oh, Judson, why stop there?
If you really want the "original intent" of the Founding Fathers, then only free white males over the age of 21 who own property should be able to vote.

There! That'll fix things!

Not.

dg
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:15 PM
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23. What a ridiculous idea.
I guess it fits in with taking away the mortgage deduction from taxpayers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9651596
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:38 AM
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28. What they'll do first is make it so business owners get two votes
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:48 AM
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29. So they won't get to vote until their mortgages are paid off?
How narrow-minded to think that one who doesn't own land has no vested interest in their own community.

Poppycock!
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